My germ rate sucks! What am i doing wrong?

True that. Semantics.........

Pure said:

sup dude,

Semantics my friend Driving point is not to pass 24 hours yes??

so I think we're delivering the same message bro.... Not too much difference in the 2 "for 24 hours" & "no more than 24hrs"


Pure...

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kewl dude,

At least i know why my method works.. These beans I'm pushing are about 3-5 years young!!! But according to this article we all got it wrong and that seems a bit weirded out to me. Is it just me??


Pure...

I'm close to 100% with peat pellets. I don't even bother to pH, but my water is better than average.

Soak the peat, pop the seed, keep them in the dome until germination (2 days max). Then into solo cups - add drainage holes - with Fox Farms Ocean Forest or Happy Frog.

I get pretty good rates just by putting the seeds directly in coco peat.

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I used to do all that crazy shit. Soaking seeds, paper towels, Rock Wool, Sure2Starts, Jiffy Pellets... Of all the methods, the Pellets work well, but sometimes the bottom of the peat is still too compressed and roots have a hard time pushing through.

Personally, I'll never do it any other way. It's just so easy. Saturate and plant. 72 to 100 hours later and most every plant will be above ground.

phyzix said:

I'm close to 100% with peat pellets. I don't even bother to pH, but my water is better than average.

Soak the peat, pop the seed, keep them in the dome until germination (2 days max). Then into solo cups - add drainage holes - with Fox Farms Ocean Forest or Happy Frog.

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yep thats how i do it except i use homemade pro mix.
i think the article is just trying to over simplify things since the most germination failures if its not just a bad seed probrably would happen during that first "transplant" after the seed cracks. but most of us know there are better ways than just drop in dirt and keep moist. i prefer to drive a stick over an automatic

I agree with a lot of people here that don't like rockwool. Just buying it is a heat score. I'm seriously thinking about finding something else that will work for cloning and germination. I only grow my own seeds and a very few others that are requested. I have never purchased seeds from a seed bank. I send out snips as many people don't have available resources for a mother and clone op. I charge the equavalent of two dollars canadian per snip. Most people prefer trade than cash. RV pumps, electric valves and timers are my preference on my veg and everything else that's on 24 hour lighting. Luckily I've got my F&D table, 12/12hr lighting, so everything goes right from the cloning bin and into the table as soon as they are ready to leave the cloning bin. I believe in supplementing even my cloning bin with co2. I keep one single layer of clean gravel in my cloning bin(humidity dome, or mini greenhouse) to keep down fungus and mildew and there is a drain/airhole to ensure proper and total drainage. If you are using rockwell be sure to to resoak your cubes after you place them in the bin with a sprayer. Keep your bin on a shelf as high as it can be and still have room for the two four foot coolwhite flouresents and its fixture that will be the direct lighting to your cloning bin. Just remember, when you are using a humidity dome on a plantpot or in any other application these bins are only meant to assist the plant in its very early stages of development and the plant has to be remove as soon as the plant can live in the regular enviroment. With seedlings after they have developed proper first adult leaves should not be subjected to the bin unless you are planning to be away and have no other way of keeping them from drying out. Sometimes you have to make a decision...loose a little or loose a lot. Every humidity dome must have proper ventilation especially when the leaves are present etc... To run your op properly you need a pump up pressure sprayer. Just buzzed....

One other thing I'd like to mention, even if you do not purchase seeds from a seedbank I think, if you can afford it to make a charitable donation to help ensure strains are kept available and not lost. Thank-you!

I got some from the Attitude a year or so ago. Germ rate was pretty high. over 70%. Maybe your just down on your luck. Keep trying and you will succeed!

Dude,

My new beans are from The 'tude. But before I crack those puppies I've gotta get some straight sativa beans (good lookin' out Brick Top -I'll tell Tommy to get the Dags, I love Dags do you like Dags???!!! ) whoa the point behind my chiming in was to say dudes. I'm hard pressed to believe that a reputable bean distributor would deliver bad beans. I'm sure there is a variable in your setup that may be benign to us but clearly relevant to your beans.... reflect on every step of you germ process dude; I bet you'll discover what happened on your own...
Perfect example is this forum. So much knowledge here and it's not just passed on knowledge. dude this is like first hand heaven!!! People try, people fail, people report, people talk , try again, succeed!!, share.... hahaaaaa we are pushing the envelope of higher intelligence and grass is our synapse enhancer..... Ohhhh RAH


Pure...
Ok Ok too much RedBull vodka

whew but what a rush.....

Well from my little experiment the seed that I started directly in the rapid rooter has popped up first, with the one I soaked first then went to rapid rooter popped second. The one started in papertowel popped its tap root pretty quick but hasn't popped out of the dirt yet, either has the one started directly in dirt. I changed my temps to about 82-85 and kept everything very clean, used tweezers to move seeds, and kept very close eye on moisture levels. I think it was all the little details that really helped. Thanks again to everyone that responded with their techniques, alot of good info.

dont worry to much about soaking for 24 hrs i germed some ghs cheese seed that way and was not able to make it back to the house for a few days. Upon my return i found 2 of the 5 seeds growing on top of the water. thay were like 2-3 inches long and had foilage already. So i quickly and gently put them in a peat plug under a dome and once they popped through the peat i transplant into styrofoam cups and set under lights. So now almost a month later i have 4 seedling im about to top

I need some help.I got some lowryder from attitude n I'm on day five of the paper towel germination n there showing no signs of life. I've done this before n Its never took more them three for me.I may have put a little to much water once or twice but I don't think I killed them.has anyone had there seeds take this long or have any advice on how to speed this process up,cause its slowly killing me on the inside

If you have sandpaper roll a little piece into a tube put a seed in it and shake for 2 minutes. The micro scratches will help water absorb into the seed greatly improving germination rates.

I always soak in water and ever since i started growing ive been putting my seedling straight in H2O until they pop tap root in 24-48 hours after sitting on my seedling mat with a thick bowl over top to block out ALL light. Never had a seed not pop...

i my opinion, paper towel is your problem, some paper towels maybe work, but i wouldnt use them, never had to.

I would just toss mine in soil, but I don't like not knowing if one will pop through the soil surface.

So I went to soaking them in water for no more then 6-8 hours, just enough to soften the shell and allow moisture to enter the seed. Then toss them on a very lightly damp paper towel gentle fold over the paper towel. So the top of the paper towel is not resting on the seeds (as to not drown or suffocate them), leave them uncovered and mist as needed. It normally takes about 20-30 hours for them to open. The paper towel, is not dampened to provide moisture for the seed, it's mostly to keep it from drying out to quickly.