My Growitup Greenhouse Grow 2010
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uh.... running out of room, time to thin a little
Thanks for keeping an eye on this dragon I know your an experienced outdoor grower and I value your opinion.
From what you see and know about pruning would you say I would be better off topping that monster in the back?
Sounds like it. what do you think, like take a foot off and top the side ones too?
Ha!
No I can still see it... barely.
Haven't used it though, I planed on using it later in flower. When I do I will have to move some branches thats for sure.
theloadeddragon
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I would pinch the utmost tops, in two separate sessions over the next three of four weeks, and tie over and down to the frame of the greenhouse (start at center shot 11 second into video, to the sides of and above your AC), and train it along the walls of the greenhouse from there. Learned trick from previous greenhouse grow . From there your shoots will grow out and in, and still have room for some flower stretching.
. From there your shoots will grow out and in, and still have room for some flower stretching.
theloadeddragon
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you can weigh the branches of the other plants down so they hang lower by using fishing weights
I would pinch the utmost tops, in two separate sessions over the next three of four weeks, and tie over and down to the frame of the greenhouse (start at center shot 11 second into video, to the sides of and above your AC), and train it along the walls of the greenhouse from there. Learned trick from previous greenhouse grow
you can weigh the branches of the other plants down so they hang lower by using fishing weights
Gotcha, I was going to try and run it down the center but that would deprive the others of light, along the back wall sounds much better. I can see it now. Taking just the tips is succession will fill the area with shoots. Then I train the blueberry back towards the corner. Glad I didn't hack it off.
Fishing weights, ya know, I tried them a while back in a smaller grow before I used a screen. Forgot about that.
Thanks man, I figured I needed to do something but wasn't sure how much veg time I had left.
Time enough of course. Just like your indoor, sometimes you have to whip those girls into shape. Better exposure, air flow, etc. Especially if you get some large flowers causing all the lean and such. Rather be aggressive now though to set them up as best as seems fitting. But that is why they call it Low Stress. Just shaping, not breaking.
OK, I started looking at other things I can do to help the girls and found a post on building a sulfur burner.
Heres the link to the DIY build. LINK
Some pics of what I did.
cut a hole in the bottom of one can and then removed the bottom and saved the piece.
Mounted a socket in the bottom of the second can
The first can goes on top
Took that piece and put it back inside
put some screws in there to hold it in place.
Put a strap around a soup can to hold the sulfur.
I used a 100w green bulb.
There ya have it, took about 15 min. I know its not pretty but it will work.
Now I need to find some sulphur.
Heres the link to the DIY build. LINK
Some pics of what I did.
cut a hole in the bottom of one can and then removed the bottom and saved the piece.
Mounted a socket in the bottom of the second can
The first can goes on top
Took that piece and put it back inside
put some screws in there to hold it in place.
Put a strap around a soup can to hold the sulfur.
I used a 100w green bulb.
There ya have it, took about 15 min. I know its not pretty but it will work.
Now I need to find some sulphur.
IAm5toned
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yep...... good place to get epsom salt too, for making cal-mag
IAm5toned
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kills/repels bugs, and generates CO2
Someguy15
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Doubtful you need space to contain it. You could get a bug fogger to use around the area if it's really out of control.
Really, so like how do you make CalMag?
Yes, Thats what I understand, primarily for the mildew but I hear it helps control the mites too.
That blue dream I put back still has some mites. I think they came from the pot.
Its the only plant that has them so far and the only plant in a used pot. I had something in it before and dumped out that soil but didnt rinse out the pot before putting in the new soil. So today I poured about an inch of washed sand on top of the soil in the pot. Hopefully that helps.
I was looking into purchasing a sulfer burner just to be ready and found the DIY on the net. I realized I had everything here and made one. Well, we will see how it goes.
Its the only plant that has them so far and the only plant in a used pot. I had something in it before and dumped out that soil but didnt rinse out the pot before putting in the new soil. So today I poured about an inch of washed sand on top of the soil in the pot. Hopefully that helps.
I was looking into purchasing a sulfer burner just to be ready and found the DIY on the net. I realized I had everything here and made one. Well, we will see how it goes.
IAm5toned
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if you have really hard water like 400ppm or higher out of the tap, add 1/4 teaspoon of epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) per gallon to make your own version of cal-mag.
without a decent water analysis, its hard to know if you have enough calcium dissolved in your tap water, but adding Mg is alwyas good during flower, but if there isnt enough cal, the Mg wont get absorbed. the idea behind cal mag, most of us know, is that the calcium acts as a ph buffer, so that the Mg and other micronutes can be absorbed, instead of being locked up due to ph issues. most of the cal a plant uses is during veg, it uses a little during flower, but it really burns the Mg during flower, so either way, its going to be a minor improvement.
with all fets and nutes, start out slow, mebbe on just one plant before treating the whole op.
without a decent water analysis, its hard to know if you have enough calcium dissolved in your tap water, but adding Mg is alwyas good during flower, but if there isnt enough cal, the Mg wont get absorbed. the idea behind cal mag, most of us know, is that the calcium acts as a ph buffer, so that the Mg and other micronutes can be absorbed, instead of being locked up due to ph issues. most of the cal a plant uses is during veg, it uses a little during flower, but it really burns the Mg during flower, so either way, its going to be a minor improvement.
with all fets and nutes, start out slow, mebbe on just one plant before treating the whole op.
/edit based on RO or low PPM water. Obviously your source water affects these recipes quite a bit.
Well epson salt is magnesium sulfate. Everyone seems to have a different ratio for this but roughly 1 teaspoon per gallon.
Calcium sources ... I found for this just getting calcium nitrate from green light or similar was actually cheap enough. Though if you go through enough eggs, you can get your water source enriched with the boil and steep method. Or pulverized shells added even. There's tons of various extraction methods for calcium. Eggshells are just the most common.
Basically combining a cheap source of dissolvable mag in with some other form of calcium to come up with the commercially available equivalent. I know that sounds flippant, but there is no real mystery to what's in most of those bottles.
My compost bin gets eggshells and occasionally I will do a vinegar solution wash on a batch to add to a tea I keep trying. Not for the faint of heart obviously.
Stuff is pretty simple. Put a nifty label on it with some cool psychedelic art and it's worth a small fortune. Depends on setup of course on whether that is worth it. For lots of hydro solutions having those spendy bottles might be considered saner but I've seen enough people run their own home brews.
And if you're like me, having those epson salts around for the occasional, "WTF did I do this time," issue doesn't hurt.
Good info guys,
Well it just so happens I got a box of Epsom salts sitting around. I got it for my indoor grow but chickened out and bought Cal mag. I see the difference it makes in hydro, I use R/O and add it every other res. So this being a soil grow I should be alright and use straight Epsom salts at about a teaspoon a gallon. (start slow) OK got it.
I don't know whats in the city water but I get calcium deposits on the glasses after running the dishwasher so I figure I got plenty. its about 420 PPM right out of the tap. The filter I have is a sediment and charcoal filter that brings the water to 330 PPM. I add nutes a couple times a week, not much, bring it up to 800ppm and they don't seem to be lacking anything at this point. Sure, a few yellow leaf on the bottom but I just pruned and trained them so I can understand that.
Well it just so happens I got a box of Epsom salts sitting around. I got it for my indoor grow but chickened out and bought Cal mag. I see the difference it makes in hydro, I use R/O and add it every other res. So this being a soil grow I should be alright and use straight Epsom salts at about a teaspoon a gallon. (start slow) OK got it.
I don't know whats in the city water but I get calcium deposits on the glasses after running the dishwasher so I figure I got plenty. its about 420 PPM right out of the tap. The filter I have is a sediment and charcoal filter that brings the water to 330 PPM. I add nutes a couple times a week, not much, bring it up to 800ppm and they don't seem to be lacking anything at this point. Sure, a few yellow leaf on the bottom but I just pruned and trained them so I can understand that.
zeffysaurus
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Great thread, Great info, Great GH, Great looking plants. Keep up the good work. +rep and subbed. As soon as i own my own place....
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