My Outdoor Garden-2010

veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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daRube said:
VG,
Thanks for the info on your screens.. Wow.. "struggling to keep them under 9 feet" sounds like a good problem to have..lol

Would you be interested in sharing your "EXTREME LST and Supercropping" methods? I understand the basics yet everyone seems to have little differences; 3 head, serpentine, 4 node, 5th node, pinching, wiring, cutting... etc.. makes my head spin..

Thanks,

R

BTW if you give your worms coffee to keep them busy do you give them larf at the end of the day to mellow them out? lol...
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I don't remove leaves or branches. I just make a concerted effort to get a complete canopy as early as possible in veg, using LST and Supercropping.

I'll try to give detailed pictures and explanations as we go along.

We're finally into a warm spell, so growth should be extremely rapid, from now on.

Thank goodness!
 
dralion

dralion

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So, youve seen my pics.... are you suggesting that MY plants will be 9+ feet. So you think should place the remesh in place now?? and at a height of between 6-7 feet?? And as the branches grow train them in on of the squares of the remesh...6x6 squares right? Just a khola per square?? Whats super cropping....pinching the tops? If your estimating my plants will be 10 feet tall I have to do something to keep them down... thats CRAZY! Good crazy, but crazy none the less.
 
dralion

dralion

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Also Im unclear...... are you training your plants now, when they are still small.... before we started talking, about a month ago i started bending some branches...I took the top limb and slightly bent it.... and the growth that took place by the other limbs was crazy.... so much so that a few bottom branches started competing to become the new tops.... it got so big that they broke off... I mean they were really really reaching.... I dodnt know about supporting things yet.. Im new to all this..... should I be training them now.... what I had done was bend the top donw and I tied it that way.... I really want to understand what the steps to preparing for this remesh screen is.

Your shit looks to pretty! so awesome!
 
dralion

dralion

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Whats the yellow rope for in post # 107

sorry for getting all crazy with the questions.....next time i'll get them all together before I ask
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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dralion said:
So, youve seen my pics.... are you suggesting that MY plants will be 9+ feet. So you think should place the remesh in place now?? and at a height of between 6-7 feet?? And as the branches grow train them in on of the squares of the remesh...6x6 squares right? Just a khola per square?? Whats super cropping....pinching the tops? If your estimating my plants will be 10 feet tall I have to do something to keep them down... thats CRAZY! Good crazy, but crazy none the less.
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No, 4-5 feet should be fine. Their height depends on the care they receive. Realistically, more than six feet tall, but ten would be about max in perfect conditions.

Read up on supcropping. Youtube might have some videos. Scary looking but once you've seen how the plants react, you'll get comfortable with it.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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dralion said:
Also Im unclear...... are you training your plants now, when they are still small.... before we started talking, about a month ago i started bending some branches...I took the top limb and slightly bent it.... and the growth that took place by the other limbs was crazy.... so much so that a few bottom branches started competing to become the new tops.... it got so big that they broke off... I mean they were really really reaching.... I dodnt know about supporting things yet.. Im new to all this..... should I be training them now.... what I had done was bend the top donw and I tied it that way.... I really want to understand what the steps to preparing for this remesh screen is.

Your shit looks to pretty! so awesome!
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Read everything you can find on LST.

The idea is to lean the plant(gently!) and spread the branches to increase the area it shades, to increase sunlight absorption.

If a heavy branch pulls away from the stalk, but the "skin"(bark) is still attached, it can still survive.

I usually use twine to tie the branch back into place, taking care not to twist or tear the remaining connection to the stalk. Use whatever is handy to provide support as the plant grows.
 
dralion

dralion

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VG, I see in your pictures an write up that you add tons of mulch, you yourself said as much as a foot sometimes. It appears in your pictures that you are adding you lawn clippings as mulch (grass). Im I correct? I know grass has a ton of nitrogen, but doesn't that much grass sitting around under your plants 1) stink & 2) bring a bunch or bugs and pest out and possible subject your grow to bugs, pests, and mold??
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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It stinks a bit if disturbed, but not bad.

I like bugs. as long as they don't eat my plants.

Mold usually is never an issue unless the mulch is touching the plant. I keep it away a few inches.

I also use tree leaves etc, but grass clippings are most plentiful, in the summer.

I mulch in layers, applying a few inches each time. The clippings dry before they stink, then worms munch them.
 
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Ludicium

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rd116 said:
I would stay away from all the miracle grow stuff... Go w/ fox farm if you can get it
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Yeah, I really do want to get some FF products but I don't think anyone sells it on this island.. :/

I'll keep looking though. Maybe I'll order them online.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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I'm finally seeing some serious growth on some of my girls in the last few days.

Quite a few pix. Some are even of Cannabis plants.


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This little cactus was transplanted this year after ten years in a small clay pot. It has had a serious growth spurt and lots of blooms.

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The dirt is actually dry enough to roll in, finally!

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I was sitting in the garden with Fuzzy after some serious weed pulling, when I noticed a Mantis egg case looked fuzzy. The fuzz was actually about a hundred of these little guys. I grabbed a bunch and put them in the greenhouses.

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This main stalk has produced three sun leaves at about eight nodes. I wonder if it will continue through to finish.

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Fuzzy prefers catnip.

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This shrub was here when we moved in. The previous owner mentioned that it is rare. Anyone know what it is?

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My neighbor is kind enough to throw his grass clipping over the fence, and into a waiting wheelbarrow. He's a good shot and a good neighbor.

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Star Jasmine.

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I harvested three small cabbages, today.

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The last picture is of a Celticberry that showed signs of nute toxicity during a cold spell in April. I decided to replace it with a vigorously growing Trainwreck clone.

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He's good company on a quiet afternoon.

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The cage plants are all beginning to reveg and grow rapidly. If the promised ninety degree weather arrives, the next update may show substantial change.

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The last, and largest plant is a Bubbleberry cross that is showing incredible vigor. I've FIMed the upper branches twice. She may very well take over half the area in this greenhouse. She's nearly six feet tall. This plant came from some seeds that apparently fell from last year's Bubbleberry, and volunteered in late January. I removed all but one, since her parentage is uncertain. If you want the absolute largest possible plants, drop a few seeds in your garden after the first frost. The seeds will appear when they are ready, and grow naturally.

The last time this happened the result was over a kilo of FINE sativa.

Enough. Hope you enjoy the pix!
 
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