My Outdoor Garden-2010

mariapastor · Feb 22, 2010

so san perdo has mescaline
???

veggiegardener · Feb 22, 2010

Don't take my word.

Google "San Pedro Cactus".

mariapastor · Feb 22, 2010

yea i just checked it out and it does, however you have to extract it. Anyways my tribe dont do any passages with that cactus in particular but i wouldnt mind adding it to my collection i would take some pictures of the catus that grow wildly here in the mojave desert. we usually propagate it by putting a cutting on the ground but many cactus have seeds. Since is legal would you be interested in trading cactus seeds??? anyways so far we are the one of the few here on RIU that make are own compost. What do you think of horse compost???

veggiegardener · Feb 23, 2010

The process is the same for both Peyote and San Pedro. Either chew it up, or extract the alkaloids ands drink the liquid.

Either way, you get nauseous before you get a buzz.

veggiegardener · Feb 28, 2010

I started sexing the plants a few days ago.

So far, I have 7 males and 17 females. Most years I get about 55%-60% females, but this has varied 20% in both directions.

I'm about to lose a couple IBL strains due to seed age(approaching ten years old). I've been unlucky with these when each year, all the seeds were one sex, making backcrossing impossible.

Hopefully I'll be lucky.

Also included are progress shots of various trees and plants around the garden.

Back in the bad old days, before Prop. 215, I hid my plants among trellised Tomato, cucumber and bean vines. I was amazed at how much great bud nearly invisible Cannabis plants could produce.

mariapastor · Feb 28, 2010

i wish i can grow lemons here in the high desert

mariapastor · Feb 28, 2010

are you flowering outdoor now

veggiegardener · Feb 28, 2010

All the young Cannabis plants are in greenhouses, and will remain there until I've finished pollinating. Then I'll harvest and freeze all the remaining pollen for further desirable crosses in the fall. I'll harvest the seeded buds in April and reveg enough plants to fill my grow area.

Probably around fifteen, this year.

mariapastor · Feb 28, 2010

mine are flowering outside to and are due sometime in april but didnt know whats more benificial starting new seedling now and harvesting the whole plant or just revegging hows that work out for you

mariapastor · Feb 28, 2010

here mine are in a green house also i started them indoor/outdoor then just left them to flower in feb they should be do by april hopefully

veggiegardener · Feb 28, 2010

It sounds like we're on the same page!

A couple pix from past years...

Fuzzy, doing his thing...

Looking in through a vent, close to harvest,

and early September, in the greenhouse, and in the cage.

Several shots of Spring 2009 plants.

mariapastor · Feb 28, 2010

so you harvest in april and they reveg when??

veggiegardener · Feb 28, 2010

Revegging is often visible by mid April. I only remove the main buds off of each plant, leaving smaller buds and nodes for revegging sites. Usually about one third of vegetation is left.

If the buds aren't quite finished or revegging begins too soon, they still make great hash, and edibles.

RPsmoke420 · Mar 1, 2010

Pics are awesome Veggie! Very cool. How tall are those monsters?

Got some work done this weekend. Area is cleared out. I have dirt, worms, compost, everything lined up. Ordering the wood tomorrow (guy isn't in today). Going to have 7 beds at 4'x4.5'. Going 12" tall now. Thanks veggie, saved me a bunch of money vs. the 18" height I had planned.

Anyway, here is the question: I have always started outdoors in mid to late May. Works great. But, the sun starts hanging in the sky longer in March. Late March is our first 13+ hour days. You think it would work out starting some seeds ? They would have 13+ and up in light hours, so they shouldn't go through a reveg period, correct? Would love to get an early start. Along with the normal girls I have some auto's I would like to try, and see if I can get different harvest times or a "rolling harvest".

veggiegardener · Mar 1, 2010

Seedlings reach sexual maturity after about six weeks, or at the sixth node. I'd say wait two or three weeks to start them. They'll start showing flowers about May First, but should not go into full flower.

Another method to insure they veg, rather than getting some flowers is to run a light a few hours after sunset, nearby. The light needn't be very bright. Just in direct line of sight to the young plants. Turn that light off in early June, or when the day length is at 13.5 hours.(Sunrise to sunset.)

They may not show sex, but they'll remain in veg until Fall.

RPsmoke420 · Mar 1, 2010

veggiegardener said:
Seedlings reach sexual maturity after about six weeks, or at the sixth node. I'd say wait two or three weeks to start them. They'll start showing flowers about May First, but should not go into full flower.

Another method to insure they veg, rather than getting some flowers is to run a light a few hours after sunset, nearby. The light needn't be very bright. Just in direct line of sight to the young plants. Turn that light off in early June, or when the day length is at 13.5 hours.(Sunrise to sunset.)

They may not show sex, but they'll remain in veg until Fall.

Awesome. I'll give it a try when the time comes and i'll be sure to report back. THANK YOU

mariapastor · Mar 1, 2010

hodge starts his seeds in late febuary in a greenhouse and gets monsters

mariapastor · Mar 1, 2010

hey veggie those plants you have in the greenhouse did you start those indoor or out

veggiegardener · Mar 1, 2010

The seeds are germinated indoors in 2" peat pots.

Once they have two or three sets of "true" leaves, I transplant them into one gallon pots and put them in a green house.

They remain in the green house until seeds finish, usually.

Once I harvest the seeded buds, I select the best plants to put in the green houses and the cage, outdoors.

veggiegardener · Mar 1, 2010

mariapastor said:
hodge starts his seeds in late febuary in a greenhouse and gets monsters

I don't plant early for size. A seed planted in April will fill almost any space provided, given care.

I like to sex my plants and get seeds prior to placing them in the garden. My method accomplishes both.

I don't like keeping plants under lights too long due to photo period issues.

Some strains of Cannabis(mostly sativas) are extremely sensitive to changes in day length.

I want my babies sexed ASAP so I veg them to sexual maturity under short day conditions(10 to 12 hours). Doing this forces the young plants to show flowers at the earliest possible moment.

If you veg under a long day cycle, indoors(like 18/6) and have a maximum outdoor day length of 15 hours, you must reduce your indoor day length to match that outdoors to avoid the possibility of forcing the plant into flower.

Some strains will react to a reduction of a couple hours in day length, even if it is from 18 to 16 hours. They usually revert to veg fairly quickly, but the plants do take a couple weeks to recover.

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