My plants smell JUST like mint....
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Wolverine97
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No, no he didn't, it's just that that's what we, you know, do? It's like Seinfeld says; that's why we honk, it's the best we've come up with...
Edit: I speak for all of us when is say that any help from your side of the aisle would be welcome.
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Chlorophyll actually smells like and taste like mint. If you have dried product that your smoking and it taste like mint, then the grower didnt properly destroy the clorophyll in the growing/drying/curing process. I know what im saying is true. Ill be back when I remember the source of my info.
iPACKEDthisBOWL4TWO
Well-Known Member
First attempt at "hitting" on an avatar LMFAO EPIC FAIL. I realize what Ive done and retract what Ive said LOL
iriefarmer
Active Member
What do you mean? Women aren't supposed to be intelligent or have clever ideas, that's a mans job. I'll stay in the kitchen.
iPACKEDthisBOWL4TWO
Well-Known Member
WOW........ sorry if I was being disrespectful.
kevin
Well-Known Member
i had some plants that had the mint smell going during the vegging stage. i think it was either blue mystic or northern light from nirvana. the mint scent went away during flowering.
Hydro929
Well-Known Member
So I hope I don't have to say this but I hope that CAP-1 is ducted or enclosed somehow instead of just dumping ozone into your air in your home. If not then you should probably read this: http://environment.about.com/od/ozonedepletion/a/whatisozone.htm. Of particular interest are probably paragraphs 2 & 4 from the bottom. In an apartment I could only imagine it to be worse. If you shop around you can find a good fan and filter for around the same price as his CAP-1. If you're very interested and pm me I'll look up and send you the links on the best deal.Ozone is great but not something I'd want in my house or grow unless it was contained. Especially when filters are safer and around the same price.
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
Well, put the pizza in the oven then. I'm HUNGRY! And you, you go knit me a sweater!
LOLJK
OldGrowth420
Well-Known Member
(from the link above) *The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires ozone output of indoor medical devices to be no more than 0.05 ppm.
lemme just drop this one on ya
Health effects
[edit] Air pollution
Red Alder leaf, showing the typical discolouration caused by ozone pollution[24]
Signboard in Gulfton, Houston indicating an ozone watch
There is a great deal of evidence to show that ozone, created by high concentrations of pollution and daylight UV rays at the Earth's surface, can harm lung function and irritate the respiratory system.[15][25] Exposure to ozone and the pollutants that produce it is linked to premature death, asthma, bronchitis, heart attack, and other cardiopulmonary problems.
Long-term exposure to ozone has been shown to increase risk of death from respiratory illness. A study of 450,000 people living in United States cities showed a significant correlation between ozone levels and respiratory illness over the 18-year follow-up period. The study revealed that people living in cities with high ozone levels such as Houston or Los Angeles had an over 30% increased risk of dying from lung disease.[26][27]
Air quality guidelines such as those from the World Health Organization, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the EU are based on detailed studies designed to identify the levels that can cause measurable ill health effects.
According to scientists with the (EPA), susceptible people can be adversely affected by ozone levels as low as 40 ppb.[28]
In the EU, the current target value for ozone concentrations is 120 µg/m³ which is about 60ppb. This target applies to all member states in accordance with Directive 2008/50/EC. Ozone concentration is measured as a maximum daily mean of 8 hour averages and the target should not be exceeded on more than 25 calendar days per year, starting from January 2010. Whilst the directive requires in the future a strict compliance with 120 µg/m³ limit (i.e. mean ozone concentration not to be exceeded on any day of the year), there is no date set for this requirement and this is treated as a long-term objective. [29]
The Clean Air Act directs the EPA to set National Ambient Air Quality Standards for several pollutants, including ground-level ozone, and counties out of compliance with these standards are required to take steps to reduce their levels. In May 2008, the EPA lowered its ozone standard from 80 ppb to 75 ppb. This proved controversial, since the Agency's own scientists and advisory board had recommended lowering the standard to 60 ppb, and the World Health Organization recommends 51 ppb. Many public health and environmental groups also supported the 60 ppb standard.[30] On January 7, 2010, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced proposed revisions to the National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) for the pollutant ozone, the principal component of smog:
... EPA proposes that the level of the 8-hour primary standard, which was set at 0.075 ppm in the 2008 final rule, should instead be set at a lower level within the range of 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million (ppm), to provide increased protection for children and other ‘‘at risk’’ populations against an array of O3- related adverse health effects that range from decreased lung function and increased respiratory symptoms to serious indicators of respiratory morbidity including emergency department visits and hospital admissions for respiratory causes, and possibly cardiovascular-related morbidity as well as total non- accidental and cardiopulmonary mortality. ...[31] The EPA has developed an Air Quality Index to help explain air pollution levels to the general public. Under the current standards, eight-hour average ozone concentrations of 85 to 104 ppb are described as "unhealthy for sensitive groups", 105 ppb to 124 ppb as "unhealthy" and 125 ppb to 404 ppb as "very unhealthy".[32]
Ozone can also be present in indoor air pollution, partly as a result of electronic equipment such as photocopiers. A connection has also been known to exist between the increased pollen, fungal spores, and ozone caused by thunderstorms and hospital admissions of asthma sufferers.[33]
A common British folk myth dating back to the Victorian era holds that the smell of the sea is caused by ozone, and that this smell has "bracing" health benefits.[34] Neither of these is true. The characteristic "smell of the sea" is not caused by ozone but by the presence of dimethyl sulfide generated by phytoplankton which, like ozone, is toxic in high concentrations.[35]
[edit] Physiology
See also: trioxidane
Ozone, along with reactive forms of oxygen such as superoxide, singlet oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, and hypochlorite ions, is naturally produced by white blood cells and other biological systems (such as the roots of marigolds) as a means of destroying foreign bodies. Ozone reacts directly with organic double bonds. Also, when ozone breaks down to dioxygen it gives rise to oxygen free radicals, which are highly reactive and capable of damaging many organic molecules. Moreover, it is believed that the powerful oxidizing properties of ozone may be a contributing factor of inflammation. The cause-and-effect relationship of how the ozone is created in the body and what it does is still under consideration and still subject to various interpretations, since other body chemical processes can trigger some of the same reactions. A team headed by Dr. Paul Wentworth Jr. of the Department of Chemistry at the Scripps Research Institute has shown evidence linking the antibody-catalyzed water-oxidation pathway of the human immune response to the production of ozone. In this system, ozone is produced by antibody-catalyzed production of trioxidane from water and neutrophil-produced singlet oxygen.[36]
When inhaled, ozone reacts with compounds lining the lungs to form specific, cholesterol-derived metabolites that are thought to facilitate the build-up and pathogenesis of atherosclerotic plaques (a form of heart disease). These metabolites have been confirmed as naturally occurring in human atherosclerotic arteries and are categorized into a class of secosterols termed atheronals, generated by ozonolysis of cholesterol's double bond to form a 5,6 secosterol[37] as well as a secondary condensation product via aldolization.[38]
Ozone has been implicated to have an adverse effect on plant growth: "... ozone reduced total chlorophylls, carotenoid and carbohydrate concentration, and increased 1-aminocyclopropane-1-carboxylic acid (ACC) content and ethylene production. In treated plants, the ascorbate leaf pool was decreased, while lipid peroxidation and solute leakage were significantly higher than in ozone-free controls. The data indicated that ozone triggered protective mechanisms against oxidative stress in citrus."
Also, common sense tells me that if it is so destructive to all of those bacteria you mentioned, i can't imagine what effecs it's having on all of the good necessary bacteria living on your skin and in your body, and the effects that is having on your health and skin.
Oxidants cause cancer. Ever heard of *Anti-oxidants and how they are good for your health?
Clearly, the epa is not blowing it out of propartion.
Our bodies have evolved or were designed to live harmoniously with or natural environment, which does not include inhaling massive amounts of ozone over the year that you have owned that cancer fogger.
Humans (organic) therefore what we put into our bodies should also be organic.
Let's see how much peace o' mind ya got when you've got cancer
Health is our greatest wealth.
lemme just drop this one on ya
Health effects
[edit] Air pollution
Red Alder leaf, showing the typical discolouration caused by ozone pollution[24]
Signboard in Gulfton, Houston indicating an ozone watch
There is a great deal of evidence to show that ozone, created by high concentrations of pollution and daylight UV rays at the Earth's surface, can harm lung function and irritate the respiratory system.[15][25] Exposure to ozone and the pollutants that produce it is linked to premature death, asthma, bronchitis, heart attack, and other cardiopulmonary problems.
Long-term exposure to ozone has been shown to increase risk of death from respiratory illness. A study of 450,000 people living in United States cities showed a significant correlation between ozone levels and respiratory illness over the 18-year follow-up period. The study revealed that people living in cities with high ozone levels such as Houston or Los Angeles had an over 30% increased risk of dying from lung disease.[26][27]
Air quality guidelines such as those from the World Health Organization, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the EU are based on detailed studies designed to identify the levels that can cause measurable ill health effects.
According to scientists with the (EPA), susceptible people can be adversely affected by ozone levels as low as 40 ppb.[28]
In the EU, the current target value for ozone concentrations is 120 µg/m³ which is about 60ppb. This target applies to all member states in accordance with Directive 2008/50/EC. Ozone concentration is measured as a maximum daily mean of 8 hour averages and the target should not be exceeded on more than 25 calendar days per year, starting from January 2010. Whilst the directive requires in the future a strict compliance with 120 µg/m³ limit (i.e. mean ozone concentration not to be exceeded on any day of the year), there is no date set for this requirement and this is treated as a long-term objective. [29]
The Clean Air Act directs the EPA to set National Ambient Air Quality Standards for several pollutants, including ground-level ozone, and counties out of compliance with these standards are required to take steps to reduce their levels. In May 2008, the EPA lowered its ozone standard from 80 ppb to 75 ppb. This proved controversial, since the Agency's own scientists and advisory board had recommended lowering the standard to 60 ppb, and the World Health Organization recommends 51 ppb. Many public health and environmental groups also supported the 60 ppb standard.[30] On January 7, 2010, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced proposed revisions to the National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) for the pollutant ozone, the principal component of smog:
... EPA proposes that the level of the 8-hour primary standard, which was set at 0.075 ppm in the 2008 final rule, should instead be set at a lower level within the range of 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million (ppm), to provide increased protection for children and other ‘‘at risk’’ populations against an array of O3- related adverse health effects that range from decreased lung function and increased respiratory symptoms to serious indicators of respiratory morbidity including emergency department visits and hospital admissions for respiratory causes, and possibly cardiovascular-related morbidity as well as total non- accidental and cardiopulmonary mortality. ...[31] The EPA has developed an Air Quality Index to help explain air pollution levels to the general public. Under the current standards, eight-hour average ozone concentrations of 85 to 104 ppb are described as "unhealthy for sensitive groups", 105 ppb to 124 ppb as "unhealthy" and 125 ppb to 404 ppb as "very unhealthy".[32]
Ozone can also be present in indoor air pollution, partly as a result of electronic equipment such as photocopiers. A connection has also been known to exist between the increased pollen, fungal spores, and ozone caused by thunderstorms and hospital admissions of asthma sufferers.[33]
A common British folk myth dating back to the Victorian era holds that the smell of the sea is caused by ozone, and that this smell has "bracing" health benefits.[34] Neither of these is true. The characteristic "smell of the sea" is not caused by ozone but by the presence of dimethyl sulfide generated by phytoplankton which, like ozone, is toxic in high concentrations.[35]
[edit] Physiology
See also: trioxidane
Ozone, along with reactive forms of oxygen such as superoxide, singlet oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, and hypochlorite ions, is naturally produced by white blood cells and other biological systems (such as the roots of marigolds) as a means of destroying foreign bodies. Ozone reacts directly with organic double bonds. Also, when ozone breaks down to dioxygen it gives rise to oxygen free radicals, which are highly reactive and capable of damaging many organic molecules. Moreover, it is believed that the powerful oxidizing properties of ozone may be a contributing factor of inflammation. The cause-and-effect relationship of how the ozone is created in the body and what it does is still under consideration and still subject to various interpretations, since other body chemical processes can trigger some of the same reactions. A team headed by Dr. Paul Wentworth Jr. of the Department of Chemistry at the Scripps Research Institute has shown evidence linking the antibody-catalyzed water-oxidation pathway of the human immune response to the production of ozone. In this system, ozone is produced by antibody-catalyzed production of trioxidane from water and neutrophil-produced singlet oxygen.[36]
When inhaled, ozone reacts with compounds lining the lungs to form specific, cholesterol-derived metabolites that are thought to facilitate the build-up and pathogenesis of atherosclerotic plaques (a form of heart disease). These metabolites have been confirmed as naturally occurring in human atherosclerotic arteries and are categorized into a class of secosterols termed atheronals, generated by ozonolysis of cholesterol's double bond to form a 5,6 secosterol[37] as well as a secondary condensation product via aldolization.[38]
Ozone has been implicated to have an adverse effect on plant growth: "... ozone reduced total chlorophylls, carotenoid and carbohydrate concentration, and increased 1-aminocyclopropane-1-carboxylic acid (ACC) content and ethylene production. In treated plants, the ascorbate leaf pool was decreased, while lipid peroxidation and solute leakage were significantly higher than in ozone-free controls. The data indicated that ozone triggered protective mechanisms against oxidative stress in citrus."Also, common sense tells me that if it is so destructive to all of those bacteria you mentioned, i can't imagine what effecs it's having on all of the good necessary bacteria living on your skin and in your body, and the effects that is having on your health and skin.
Oxidants cause cancer. Ever heard of *Anti-oxidants and how they are good for your health?
Clearly, the epa is not blowing it out of propartion.
Our bodies have evolved or were designed to live harmoniously with or natural environment, which does not include inhaling massive amounts of ozone over the year that you have owned that cancer fogger.
Humans (organic) therefore what we put into our bodies should also be organic.
Let's see how much peace o' mind ya got when you've got cancer
Health is our greatest wealth.
OldGrowth420
Well-Known Member
from wiki 'ozone'
Serapis
Well-Known Member
I feel great, my plants show NO sign of ozone damage, and my house smells great... I appreciate your concern for my health, but i believe that the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Cigarette smoking will cause far more damage to your lungs than ozone, in fact, the tar from marijuana smoke will as well. 
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
Yepper. Ozone is some bad stuff, that has no business in the grow room. There are plenty of effective means to control pathogens and odors associated with indoor gardening that aren't detrimental to human and animal health, and pretty much all living things in general...(from the link above) *The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires ozone output of indoor medical devices to be no more than 0.05 ppm.
lemme just drop this one on ya
Health effects
[edit] Air pollution
Red Alder leaf, showing the typical discolouration caused by ozone pollution[24]
Signboard in Gulfton, Houston indicating an ozone watch
There is a great deal of evidence to show that ozone, created by high concentrations of pollution and daylight UV rays at the Earth's surface, can harm lung function and irritate the respiratory system.[15][25] Exposure to ozone and the pollutants that produce it is linked to premature death, asthma, bronchitis, heart attack, and other cardiopulmonary problems.
Long-term exposure to ozone has been shown to increase risk of death from respiratory illness. A study of 450,000 people living in United States cities showed a significant correlation between ozone levels and respiratory illness over the 18-year follow-up period. The study revealed that people living in cities with high ozone levels such as Houston or Los Angeles had an over 30% increased risk of dying from lung disease.[26][27]
Air quality guidelines such as those from the World Health Organization, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the EU are based on detailed studies designed to identify the levels that can cause measurable ill health effects.
According to scientists with the (EPA), susceptible people can be adversely affected by ozone levels as low as 40 ppb.[28]
In the EU, the current target value for ozone concentrations is 120 µg/m³ which is about 60ppb. This target applies to all member states in accordance with Directive 2008/50/EC. Ozone concentration is measured as a maximum daily mean of 8 hour averages and the target should not be exceeded on more than 25 calendar days per year, starting from January 2010. Whilst the directive requires in the future a strict compliance with 120 µg/m³ limit (i.e. mean ozone concentration not to be exceeded on any day of the year), there is no date set for this requirement and this is treated as a long-term objective. [29]
The Clean Air Act directs the EPA to set National Ambient Air Quality Standards for several pollutants, including ground-level ozone, and counties out of compliance with these standards are required to take steps to reduce their levels. In May 2008, the EPA lowered its ozone standard from 80 ppb to 75 ppb. This proved controversial, since the Agency's own scientists and advisory board had recommended lowering the standard to 60 ppb, and the World Health Organization recommends 51 ppb. Many public health and environmental groups also supported the 60 ppb standard.[30] On January 7, 2010, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced proposed revisions to the National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) for the pollutant ozone, the principal component of smog:
... EPA proposes that the level of the 8-hour primary standard, which was set at 0.075 ppm in the 2008 final rule, should instead be set at a lower level within the range of 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million (ppm), to provide increased protection for children and other ‘‘at risk’’ populations against an array of O3- related adverse health effects that range from decreased lung function and increased respiratory symptoms to serious indicators of respiratory morbidity including emergency department visits and hospital admissions for respiratory causes, and possibly cardiovascular-related morbidity as well as total non- accidental and cardiopulmonary mortality. ...[31] The EPA has developed an Air Quality Index to help explain air pollution levels to the general public. Under the current standards, eight-hour average ozone concentrations of 85 to 104 ppb are described as "unhealthy for sensitive groups", 105 ppb to 124 ppb as "unhealthy" and 125 ppb to 404 ppb as "very unhealthy".[32]
Ozone can also be present in indoor air pollution, partly as a result of electronic equipment such as photocopiers. A connection has also been known to exist between the increased pollen, fungal spores, and ozone caused by thunderstorms and hospital admissions of asthma sufferers.[33]
A common British folk myth dating back to the Victorian era holds that the smell of the sea is caused by ozone, and that this smell has "bracing" health benefits.[34] Neither of these is true. The characteristic "smell of the sea" is not caused by ozone but by the presence of dimethyl sulfide generated by phytoplankton which, like ozone, is toxic in high concentrations.[35]
[edit] Physiology
See also: trioxidane
Ozone, along with reactive forms of oxygen such as superoxide, singlet oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, and hypochlorite ions, is naturally produced by white blood cells and other biological systems (such as the roots of marigolds) as a means of destroying foreign bodies. Ozone reacts directly with organic double bonds. Also, when ozone breaks down to dioxygen it gives rise to oxygen free radicals, which are highly reactive and capable of damaging many organic molecules. Moreover, it is believed that the powerful oxidizing properties of ozone may be a contributing factor of inflammation. The cause-and-effect relationship of how the ozone is created in the body and what it does is still under consideration and still subject to various interpretations, since other body chemical processes can trigger some of the same reactions. A team headed by Dr. Paul Wentworth Jr. of the Department of Chemistry at the Scripps Research Institute has shown evidence linking the antibody-catalyzed water-oxidation pathway of the human immune response to the production of ozone. In this system, ozone is produced by antibody-catalyzed production of trioxidane from water and neutrophil-produced singlet oxygen.[36]
When inhaled, ozone reacts with compounds lining the lungs to form specific, cholesterol-derived metabolites that are thought to facilitate the build-up and pathogenesis of atherosclerotic plaques (a form of heart disease). These metabolites have been confirmed as naturally occurring in human atherosclerotic arteries and are categorized into a class of secosterols termed atheronals, generated by ozonolysis of cholesterol's double bond to form a 5,6 secosterol[37] as well as a secondary condensation product via aldolization.[38]
Also, common sense tells me that if it is so destructive to all of those bacteria you mentioned, i can't imagine what effecs it's having on all of the good necessary bacteria living on your skin and in your body, and the effects that is having on your health and skin.
Oxidants cause cancer. Ever heard of *Anti-oxidants and how they are good for your health?
Clearly, the epa is not blowing it out of propartion.
Our bodies have evolved or were designed to live harmoniously with or natural environment, which does not include inhaling massive amounts of ozone over the year that you have owned that cancer fogger.
Humans (organic) therefore what we put into our bodies should also be organic.
Let's see how much peace o' mind ya got when you've got cancer
Health is our greatest wealth.
I was in my local hydro store the other day getting some equipment and supplies to test for them, while conversing with the owner at the counter a guy came in to pickup some hoods, bulbs, and an ozone generator. He was totally uneducated as to how to use it, how it works, the hazards associated etc. One of the workers there was giving the guy some advice on using it that I thought was pretty poor advice so I pulled the guy aside and explained how to properly use it, but if I hadn't been there at that moment this guy would have just installed the thing right in the common area of his basement, just outside the grow room door. Guh.
If it had been at any other store, I would have told the guy to buy something else instead, but I happen to like the guys who run this shop and I don't want them to lose business because of my mouth. Things like that really bother me, and they happen all the time. People need to take the time to educate themselves about just what in the hell they're doing.
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
Yepper. Ozone is some bad stuff, that has no business in the grow room. There are plenty of effective means to control pathogens and odors associated with indoor gardening that aren't detrimental to human and animal health, and pretty much all living things in general...(from the link above) *The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires ozone output of indoor medical devices to be no more than 0.05 ppm.
lemme just drop this one on ya
Health effects
[edit] Air pollution
Red Alder leaf, showing the typical discolouration caused by ozone pollution[24]
Signboard in Gulfton, Houston indicating an ozone watch
There is a great deal of evidence to show that ozone, created by high concentrations of pollution and daylight UV rays at the Earth's surface, can harm lung function and irritate the respiratory system.[15][25] Exposure to ozone and the pollutants that produce it is linked to premature death, asthma, bronchitis, heart attack, and other cardiopulmonary problems.
Long-term exposure to ozone has been shown to increase risk of death from respiratory illness. A study of 450,000 people living in United States cities showed a significant correlation between ozone levels and respiratory illness over the 18-year follow-up period. The study revealed that people living in cities with high ozone levels such as Houston or Los Angeles had an over 30% increased risk of dying from lung disease.[26][27]
Air quality guidelines such as those from the World Health Organization, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the EU are based on detailed studies designed to identify the levels that can cause measurable ill health effects.
According to scientists with the (EPA), susceptible people can be adversely affected by ozone levels as low as 40 ppb.[28]
In the EU, the current target value for ozone concentrations is 120 µg/m³ which is about 60ppb. This target applies to all member states in accordance with Directive 2008/50/EC. Ozone concentration is measured as a maximum daily mean of 8 hour averages and the target should not be exceeded on more than 25 calendar days per year, starting from January 2010. Whilst the directive requires in the future a strict compliance with 120 µg/m³ limit (i.e. mean ozone concentration not to be exceeded on any day of the year), there is no date set for this requirement and this is treated as a long-term objective. [29]
The Clean Air Act directs the EPA to set National Ambient Air Quality Standards for several pollutants, including ground-level ozone, and counties out of compliance with these standards are required to take steps to reduce their levels. In May 2008, the EPA lowered its ozone standard from 80 ppb to 75 ppb. This proved controversial, since the Agency's own scientists and advisory board had recommended lowering the standard to 60 ppb, and the World Health Organization recommends 51 ppb. Many public health and environmental groups also supported the 60 ppb standard.[30] On January 7, 2010, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced proposed revisions to the National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) for the pollutant ozone, the principal component of smog:
... EPA proposes that the level of the 8-hour primary standard, which was set at 0.075 ppm in the 2008 final rule, should instead be set at a lower level within the range of 0.060 to 0.070 parts per million (ppm), to provide increased protection for children and other at risk populations against an array of O3- related adverse health effects that range from decreased lung function and increased respiratory symptoms to serious indicators of respiratory morbidity including emergency department visits and hospital admissions for respiratory causes, and possibly cardiovascular-related morbidity as well as total non- accidental and cardiopulmonary mortality. ...[31] The EPA has developed an Air Quality Index to help explain air pollution levels to the general public. Under the current standards, eight-hour average ozone concentrations of 85 to 104 ppb are described as "unhealthy for sensitive groups", 105 ppb to 124 ppb as "unhealthy" and 125 ppb to 404 ppb as "very unhealthy".[32]
Ozone can also be present in indoor air pollution, partly as a result of electronic equipment such as photocopiers. A connection has also been known to exist between the increased pollen, fungal spores, and ozone caused by thunderstorms and hospital admissions of asthma sufferers.[33]
A common British folk myth dating back to the Victorian era holds that the smell of the sea is caused by ozone, and that this smell has "bracing" health benefits.[34] Neither of these is true. The characteristic "smell of the sea" is not caused by ozone but by the presence of dimethyl sulfide generated by phytoplankton which, like ozone, is toxic in high concentrations.[35]
[edit] Physiology
See also: trioxidane
Ozone, along with reactive forms of oxygen such as superoxide, singlet oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, and hypochlorite ions, is naturally produced by white blood cells and other biological systems (such as the roots of marigolds) as a means of destroying foreign bodies. Ozone reacts directly with organic double bonds. Also, when ozone breaks down to dioxygen it gives rise to oxygen free radicals, which are highly reactive and capable of damaging many organic molecules. Moreover, it is believed that the powerful oxidizing properties of ozone may be a contributing factor of inflammation. The cause-and-effect relationship of how the ozone is created in the body and what it does is still under consideration and still subject to various interpretations, since other body chemical processes can trigger some of the same reactions. A team headed by Dr. Paul Wentworth Jr. of the Department of Chemistry at the Scripps Research Institute has shown evidence linking the antibody-catalyzed water-oxidation pathway of the human immune response to the production of ozone. In this system, ozone is produced by antibody-catalyzed production of trioxidane from water and neutrophil-produced singlet oxygen.[36]
When inhaled, ozone reacts with compounds lining the lungs to form specific, cholesterol-derived metabolites that are thought to facilitate the build-up and pathogenesis of atherosclerotic plaques (a form of heart disease). These metabolites have been confirmed as naturally occurring in human atherosclerotic arteries and are categorized into a class of secosterols termed atheronals, generated by ozonolysis of cholesterol's double bond to form a 5,6 secosterol[37] as well as a secondary condensation product via aldolization.[38]
Also, common sense tells me that if it is so destructive to all of those bacteria you mentioned, i can't imagine what effecs it's having on all of the good necessary bacteria living on your skin and in your body, and the effects that is having on your health and skin.
Oxidants cause cancer. Ever heard of *Anti-oxidants and how they are good for your health?
Clearly, the epa is not blowing it out of propartion.
Our bodies have evolved or were designed to live harmoniously with or natural environment, which does not include inhaling massive amounts of ozone over the year that you have owned that cancer fogger.
Humans (organic) therefore what we put into our bodies should also be organic.
Let's see how much peace o' mind ya got when you've got cancer
Health is our greatest wealth.
I was in my local hydro store the other day getting some equipment and supplies to test for them, while conversing with the owner at the counter a guy came in to pickup some hoods, bulbs, and an ozone generator. He was totally uneducated as to how to use it, how it works, the hazards associated etc. One of the workers there was giving the guy some advice on using it that I thought was pretty poor advice so I pulled the guy aside and explained how to properly use it, but if I hadn't been there at that moment this guy would have just installed the thing right in the common area of his basement, just outside the grow room door. Guh.
If it had been at any other store, I would have told the guy to buy something else instead, but I happen to like the guys who run this shop and I don't want them to lose business because of my mouth. Things like that really bother me, and they happen all the time. People need to take the time to educate themselves about just what in the hell they're doing.
iPACKEDthisBOWL4TWO
Well-Known Member
Why not use a carbon filter? Works great and I keep the tent closed for days so when I open it I can see the growth. And it kills ALL the smell.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
Let's talk about education and research.... Did you know that ozone is used to disinfect and deodorize hotel/motel rooms? Do you realize ozone is used in water treatment, or how about in the manufacturing of pharmaceuticals? Do you realize that mold and mildew, bioth of which can be easily eliminated with ozone, will do more harm to your health than excessive ozone exposure?
In over 100 years of the industrial use of ozone in the workplace, not a single death has been attributed to ozone exposure.
Since the early 1900s, ozone has been widely used for water treatment, including disinfection of municipal water supplies, swimming pools, spas, cooling towers, and sewage treatment plants. Recently, ozone has been used in food processing for sanitizing raw materials and irrigation waters, sanitizing packaging materials and storage facilities, and for sanitizing water for recycling.
Prior to 1997, ozone could only be used for sanitation and purification of bottled drinking water in the U.S., and it is widely used around the world for this purpose today. In May 1997, an expert panel assembled by the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) declared ozone to be Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) for use in food processing in the U.S.
Since then, wineries have embraced the use of ozone. Its use has been generally accepted and documented to be effective for barrel cleaning and sanitation, tank cleaning and sanitation, clean-in-place systems, and for general surface sanitation.
This same trend of acceptance has been noted in many other industries, such as fresh-cut produce processing; produce storage facilities; food processing, including meat processing facilities; and, as noted above, in the bottled water and beverage industries. In these industries, the ozone systems are generally permanently mounted or fixed in place, which makes management of off-gas and ozone monitoring for safety and efficacy relatively easy.
I'm not saying ozone can't be dangerous, I'm saying that used intelligently, and under manufacturer instructions, the introduction of ozone as an odor eliminator and fungis, mildew, mold killer can be highly beneficial.
In over 100 years of the industrial use of ozone in the workplace, not a single death has been attributed to ozone exposure.
Since the early 1900s, ozone has been widely used for water treatment, including disinfection of municipal water supplies, swimming pools, spas, cooling towers, and sewage treatment plants. Recently, ozone has been used in food processing for sanitizing raw materials and irrigation waters, sanitizing packaging materials and storage facilities, and for sanitizing water for recycling.
Prior to 1997, ozone could only be used for sanitation and purification of bottled drinking water in the U.S., and it is widely used around the world for this purpose today. In May 1997, an expert panel assembled by the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) declared ozone to be Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) for use in food processing in the U.S.
Since then, wineries have embraced the use of ozone. Its use has been generally accepted and documented to be effective for barrel cleaning and sanitation, tank cleaning and sanitation, clean-in-place systems, and for general surface sanitation.
This same trend of acceptance has been noted in many other industries, such as fresh-cut produce processing; produce storage facilities; food processing, including meat processing facilities; and, as noted above, in the bottled water and beverage industries. In these industries, the ozone systems are generally permanently mounted or fixed in place, which makes management of off-gas and ozone monitoring for safety and efficacy relatively easy.
I'm not saying ozone can't be dangerous, I'm saying that used intelligently, and under manufacturer instructions, the introduction of ozone as an odor eliminator and fungis, mildew, mold killer can be highly beneficial.
iPACKEDthisBOWL4TWO
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And what about that mint smell??? LOL funny how it started out with mint and ended up being about ozone and ways to control the odor of........MINT LOL love it!
iriefarmer
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It's called sarcasm... idk if forums are the place for you buddy lol
Serapis
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If you open your tent for any extended period of time, the odor is going to travel, whether you can smell it or not. As growers, we tend to get comfortable with the smell and sometimes may not even notice it, as we are exposed to it daily. the carbon scrubber should be your first line of attack in controlling odors. However, you will also need a plan to deal with odor when you have to open the tent and the negative pressure is discontinued. even if you keep the tent closed for days (?) on end, you are going to open it and odor will escape. Depending on where you are growing, this could be a security issue. I address it with an ozone generator. I've seen too many cops come to a door and claim they can smell fresh growing marijuana. If ever faced with such a situation, I can point out the O generator and inform him or her they ar sadly mistaken and to please move along, as there is nothing to see here.
Wolverine97
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Yes, I'm very much aware of those facts. In your average indoor garden, ozone has no place, in my opinion. For large scale operations, where it is properly contained and used to treat exhaust it can be fine, as long as the proper mixing times are used, so that by the time it's exhausted the ozone has neutralized itself.
In hospital settings, airports, laboratories, yes it is necessary, but those are very different applications that your average basement grower who has a very rudimentary understanding of what it does, and how to use it properly.