My second 12/12 from seed with 150w CFL/10,000 lumens(organic-perpetual)

I am just beggining my new grow and Im going to try and include as many details as I can I am growing bagseed as of right now but in the future I may be growing some really dope shit, in my last grow I got some badass bud. Back on topic I have a gun cabinet 20"x10"x52" well thats rough estimate but close. In my cabinet at the very bottom is a pc gutted out with 3 light sockets wired and grownded to the pc. Also two small cpu fans wired to 12v adapters attached to outside pc connected to these fans is a diy ducting that runs to top of cab into my DIY carbon filter. In the pc there is 2-26w cfls 1 6500k and 1 2700k also a 2700k 42w cfl. I have the inside of pc wraped with emergency blanket for reflectivity, on the outside of pc to the left is my DIY co2 system I just made which I will post pic of. Sitting on top of pc is the case for the pc turned sideways and I put a bottom in it made of card board the inside of pc case is also wrapped in emergency blanket and the inside of gun cabinet is also wrapped. Top of pc case has screen in it to keep the plants short as I can, and above that is my 55w 2700k CFL with 3,860 lumens. Since I dont have any holes cut in my cabinet I have to leave my do slightly cracked so the oscallating fan in the top will exaust some of the heat. With the door completely close temps will reach 95-100 but with door cracked it stays between 82-85 which im fine with since I will be using co2. I am using Miracle grow organic choice I have mixed in a 1/2cup of lime to 8quart bag to neutralize the ph and I mixed in a bag of aquarium rocks to help with drainage I bleached and washed the rocks thouroughly before adding them. I will be useing Dutchmaster Gold Range Grow A, and B also Dutchmaster silica. During flower I will be using Bio Bizz Bio Bloom, and DM silica. I will probably be posting pics within the next week or so because there just breaking soil now so Ill try and surpize you. Ill try and think of anything I missed and post it, or if you have any questions at all feel free to post them. Also almost forgot to metion that I have a black towel attached to the shelf at the top of cab and that is what I use to light proof the cab. I wish I could post pics now but dont have the peace to put my SD card in yet so be patient. Also My DIY co2 I only have 1 timer at the moment so the plants for now only get co2 when I plug in the air pump instead of automatically and I have to turn off fans for that time I plug in the air pump. I will do this until I get another timer, if they timers that you can plug multiple things into and have separate times that would be cool. Thanks and subscribe because this should come out to be my best grow yet. I have alot of pics from my last grow to keep you busy until new pics are up. Let me know what you think about my mutant I had you know what Im talking about the weirdo, it died I didnt come home to water plants for a week and my mutant was the biggest with most leas so it was dry as hell when I got back and it was beyond bringing back to life. I grew Sour Diesel x Cheese last year the weirdo was Grape Kush.

I forgot to mention I mad a DIY reflector for the 55w cfl which I will post pic of in a week and also the height is 52" But I only have around 40" to grow in tops, but that is fine with me I know how to keep the short. I am not running 12/12 right now either I have lights going 24/7 for 3-4 weeks then I will make the flip to 12/12 I want my plants to get a little bigger than last year because I have almost 3 times the height I had last year. Also I didnt say my plans for perpetual harvest, I want to cram as many plants as i can in both chambers and get them as big as possible with LST then flip to 12/12 when all the females show put the girls from the bottom chamber in with girls from the top chamber to flower if there all girls I might have to just deal with it and cram them all up top keep the big fan leaves tucked under buds or clip them. But when I put them up in top chamber to 1 week into flower top all of them 1 time so there will be two colas and I can clone the female cuttings and place in my bottom chamber, by the time the others are done flowering it will be time to move in the clones and repeat the process about every 8-10 weeks. Id like to get a couple ounces but I know unless I get more light that wont happen and if I get more light it will be too hot, but while my clones are growing they wont need much light so I will remove two 2700k bulbs from bottom chamber and add another 55w to top chamber and that should be around 8,000 lumens in less than 2 square foot that should be enough to get a oz out of 6-8 plants if im wrong please correct me.

I wish I had a 6500k 55w CFL bulb I would switch it with the 2700k until flower but wal-mart doesnt sell the 6500k just 2700k and that sucks, I have never seen a CFL as big as 55w before in wal-mart they must have just started selling them.

First off in pic 11 the light blue around rim of door isnt light leak its blue tape, if you look close in pic 12 you can see a small sprout just broke the dirt. In pic 2 you can see my DIY co2 and it completely air tight and spill free. In pic 5 and 7 you can see the tubing running from my co2 bottle intertwind with my screen, when the plants start growing through screen I will raise the tubing because co2 is a dence gas and it falls if im correct. In pic 9 is my DIY poster paper ducting running to my DIY carbon filter that I learned from DIY section of rollitup. In pic 6 my dutchmasters nutrients and homemade funnel for watering my plants in this tight space. I will post another update in about 1 1/2 or 2 weeks. In the last pic is a better veiw of my DIY reflector I made that was my idea, I used the thing you put in your windsheild on hot days to keep your car cool for my reflective surfaces not emergency blanket my bad. sorry for having this all mixed up but before my pics uploaded they were in diffrent order so I had to edit, and didnt feel like retyping this paragraph.

still no one responds lol I had this problem with last grow, it took forever for people to start veiwing my journal and to hop on board my grow, but when they did they were in for a show lol.

bagseeds from sour deisel?=) I love SD, good luck with that. Yeah I remember you, U grow, I grow how could I forget? Ever see Dr. Gruber's SD Worth checkin out..Peace.

well I may be getting some Blue Dream seeds hear soon since that is the only bud around here right now and it is amazing, two of my faviorate strains put together Blueberry x Super Silver Haze and send me a link to Dr. Gruber's SD because I also love SD.

Pipe Dream said:

bagseeds from sour deisel?=) I love SD, good luck with that. Yeah I remember you, U grow, I grow how could I forget? Ever see Dr. Gruber's SD Worth checkin out..Peace.

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No man post up a link to Dr. Gruiber's SD

sorry I can't find it. It's almost like he's not a member here anymore. I just thought you might remember him from my older threads. Anyways, carry on.

Almost all of the plants have broke the dirt now, I was able to fit 8 party cups in top and and 6 in the bottom so ive got 14 little babies now I expect only 6-8 females and that is exactly what will fin in the top pc case. If I could give them a solid 3-4 week veg and flower 6-8 in top chamber under two 55w CFL in such a small space and keep big fans tucked down or if neccessary trimmed could It be possible to get a half oz each plant If they are perfectly taken care of. Also my temps are now down more since I changed my central A/C temp to 73 in my house my grow cab has be sitting on 81 degrees so it has dropped about 4 or 5 degrees since my cab did stay around 85 degrees.

Hey man what up? I was just droppin by cause I saw you on your second 12/12 from seed grow...how was the yield of your first one? I tried 12/12 from seed with "maui" and DNA rocklock (link in my sig) and I wasn't too impressed by my results, mind you both plants had some problems during veg.

I didnt yeild to well because I only had two plants that were 12/12 from seed Im not really doing 12/12 from seed but it is still about the same my plants will be twice the size because I am running my lights at 24/0 instead of 12/12, in 3-4 weeks I will make light flip like I said before. Now that I am trying a somewhat perpetual grow I will try to have a constant harvest going on every 6-8 weeks. I just found out my brother knows someone around here that is I could possibly get some seeds from in a few weeks when he makes his harvest.

That's pretty awesome, I'm trying to find some more decent seeds too, I have sour diesal waiting...but I'm waiting to start that one until I sex the kush I'm doing now, cause im tryin to only keep one goin at a time to concentrate my lights.

like I posted in your thread growing just 1 at a time is not worth it and I will never do it again.

IgrowUgrow said:

like I posted in your thread growing just 1 at a time is not worth it and I will never do it again.

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ya man if you got have it then there is no use in waiting, I don't know why my dumbass is bojangling lol. Do you know what the seeds your getting from your buddy are?

The seeds will either be blue dream or Mr. Nice and I might be getting some clones but probably just seeds.

Alright guys I went and bought another one of those 55w and also build a way better reflector that is hung by two small chains that I can raise to any height while keeping the lights level at the same time. The bulbs are sideways in this reflector so they give the plants more light from the sides of the bulbs. Two of the seedlings just shriveled up but I would expect a couple to die because they could be bad genetics since genetics are unknown but im glad I have backups I planted 6 more in there yesterday but they were for this reason so I will be keeping two and killing four so ill pick the pretty ones. I havent left the cab closed long enough to know what the temp is with the new bulb but it cant be enough to kill them so Ill just go to bed and check it the morning, all I know is when I first checked them today when there was only 1- 55w cfl and the 3-26w cfl the temp was 78 which is the lowest it has been so far maybe its because I adjusted my exaust fan I dont know but its a good thing so Im not worried bout it. Ill let you know what temps are tommorrow, I cant wait to show you my new reflector it is the shit, it will make adjusting my lights so easy and I will be able to raise them less than a inch at a time if I and that means I will be able to keep lights close as hell to my plants which is awsome because with CFLs light proximity to foliage is probably one of the most important things in a good final yeild. Some people prob think Im retarded for saying this but here goes, with 8 plants in my flower chamber i am expecting at least 10g per plant on the first harvest which Im not sure is possible but I will be trying to reach this goal as best as I can so if you have any advise or tips on how to reach 10g per plant with 10,000 lumens in this small of a space feel free to tell me. PEACE

My room temp at 70 the cab is around 88 degrees with the new bulb and the door completely shut but when I start flower I will be running my lights from 8pm-8am so no one will be here during that time but me so I will just leave the door slightly cracked, and temp should be around 80 degrees. If the plants dont take to the heat to well I will just start using the Co2 before I start flower just for the heat.

Nice job dude, I'm diggin the setup. Your girls are gonna love the c02, and the DIY reflector is lookin perfect