My ugly-ass clones

whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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JSB99 said:
It's Headband. Not sure if she's easy to clone from or not. I've got lots of roots. Someone suggested that I might have too much light. I had 5x23w cfl's on the top Cloner. I turned off 2 of them and raised the lights a few inches.
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A lot of it is strain dependant. I got one strain that pops roots in days and others I gave up on trying to clone.

Try this. Like grandma did. Take cuttings and put in water. Just a cup of water and change the water every few days. Put in a area with indirect sunlight from a window. 50% will make it.

You can soak in water for 4-5 days and put in soil if you like.
 
Nugachino

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I'm in a very green shithole in the southern part of Australia. Surrounded by pinetrees... pinetrees for fuckin days!

Almost sounds like we don't need to bother with humidity domes you and I.

At least your clones have taken root though buddy. I may as well be sticking mine up my ass.
 
JSB99

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Nugachino said:
I'm in a very green shithole in the southern part of Australia. Surrounded by pinetrees... pinetrees for fuckin days!

Almost sounds like we don't need to bother with humidity domes you and I.

At least your clones have taken root though buddy. I may as well be sticking mine up my ass.
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But have you checked the roots "down under" LOL. j/k. I was getting impatient with mine when I started. Patience is definitely needed here.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Its easy. Use soil. If growing in hydro the soil can be rinsed from the roots. I've done it. I built a cloner and went back to soil if that says anything.

Here is a clone started straight to soil and no rooting hormone. It was limp for a couple days and then stood right back up.

I start them under a 2 foot 6 bulb t5.
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Laying over limp doesn't mean dead.
 
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BobCajun

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Here's a method for an improvised humidity dome that always works for me. I take freezer bags of appropriate size to fit over a cutting, fold a cuff in the opening (to provide strength), cut off one of the corners of the bottom for ventilation (like an inch), and sit it over the cutting. Provide low-medium light, can't fail. It's freezer bags because they have no zips or flaps on them. The cuff makes it rigid enough to support the bag. You can reuse them a bunch of times or make new ones, whatever.

Also a tip about water. You shouldn't use fluoridated tap water because the fluoride can get in through the cut, unlike with roots which don't absorb much fluoride, and will cause visible damage. The yellowing is usually just the cuttings using up their own nutes until roots form. I think you were using too much light too. You need very little for rooting cuttings, like one 23w over that whole container.
 
dirtWeevil

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I've gotten to where i just take out my pocket knife, lop off a shoot, trim the biggest leaf tips and stick it in a cup of wet pro mix, within two weeks its adding new growth, that's literally my entire cutting process lol, haven't used a dome or mist bottle in years
 
JSB99

JSB99

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BobCajun said:
Here's a method for an improvised humidity dome that always works for me. I take freezer bags of appropriate size to fit over a cutting, fold a cuff in the opening (to provide strength), cut off one of the corners of the bottom for ventilation (like an inch), and sit it over the cutting. Provide low-medium light, can't fail. It's freezer bags because they have no zips or flaps on them. The cuff makes it rigid enough to support the bag. You can reuse them a bunch of times or make new ones, whatever.

Also a tip about water. You shouldn't use fluoridated tap water because the fluoride can get in through the cut, unlike with roots which don't absorb much fluoride, and will cause visible damage. The yellowing is usually just the cuttings using up their own nutes until roots form. I think you were using too much light too. You need very little for rooting cuttings, like one 23w over that whole container.
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Way too much light from what I'm gathering. Turned off many and cut some more clones in case these don't make it.

If clones have a tough time and some stress (like mine), does it effect the plant when it's growing? Like potency, pest/disease resistant, etc...?
 
JSB99

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dirtWeevil said:
I've gotten to where i just take out my pocket knife, lop off a shoot, trim the biggest leaf tips and stick it in a cup of wet pro mix, within two weeks its adding new growth, that's literally my entire cutting process lol, haven't used a dome or mist bottle in years
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After doing it for so long, you probably read noob threads and think "You guys are making it way too difficult!" :razz:
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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dirtWeevil said:
I've gotten to where i just take out my pocket knife, lop off a shoot, trim the biggest leaf tips and stick it in a cup of wet pro mix, within two weeks its adding new growth, that's literally my entire cutting process lol, haven't used a dome or mist bottle in years
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I hear people say not to use a lot of light but I've even used my 4 foot 8 bulb t5 to start them.

I'm using well over 100 watts of t5 on them. I use my organic soil to start them.

Bubblers and cloners work but simply putting them in soil has worked better than any other way for me.
 
dirtWeevil

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different strokes lol, people have a way of arriving at what works for them. i got tired of losing cuts so i figured why not ignore the din of the forum and eschew the lid and spray, they were always dying anyway, and it worked for me, I've rarely lost one since then, and those dried from neglect.
 
BobCajun

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I found some good info about rooting cuttings. Apparently pure water (RO, distilled, deionized) is bad. You need a light concentration of mostly calcium, nitrogen and phospohorus. Magnesium is not needed and large amounts can have a negative effect. More than trace amounts of manganese is bad. The optimum pH is 6.5. So I figure a 1/4 strength hydro fertilizer.

I got it from a Google Book called "New Root Formation in Plants and Cuttings", p 244-246.
 
JSB99

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BobCajun said:
I found some good info about rooting cuttings. Apparently pure water (RO, distilled, deionized) is bad. You need a light concentration of mostly calcium, nitrogen and phospohorus. Magnesium is not needed and large amounts can have a negative effect. More than trace amounts of manganese is bad. The optimum pH is 6.5. So I figure a 1/4 strength hydro fertilizer.

I got it from a Google Book called "New Root Formation in Plants and Cuttings", p 244-246.
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I just use tap water.

6.5 for pH level? That's a little different than hydro. Is there a reason for that?
 
dirtWeevil

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whitebb2727 said:
I hear people say not to use a lot of light but I've even used my 4 foot 8 bulb t5 to start them.

I'm using well over 100 watts of t5 on them. I use my organic soil to start them.

Bubblers and cloners work but simply putting them in soil has worked better than any other way for me.
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I've started em under hid's, i just kinda scooch em into a corner where the light isn't so intense then ill ease em closer in as they get established
 
BobCajun

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JSB99 said:
I just use tap water.

6.5 for pH level? That's a little different than hydro. Is there a reason for that?
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It didn't say why. I know for hydro it's 5.5. Probably not worth the trouble to try to get 6.5 pH but that's apparently the optimum. A lot of hydro nutes have buffers that take them to 5.5 when you mix them up, so it might be hard to make it go higher. I know mine has the 5.5 buffers, General Hydroponics MaxiGro. Personally I just use peat pellets. They have some added nutes in them already so I can just add pure water. They're also pH adjusted, though I don't know what it actually would be, probably around 6.5 actually, the recommended pH for soil.
 
BoumGreen

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whitebb2727 said:
A lot of it is strain dependant. I got one strain that pops roots in days and others I gave up on trying to clone.

Try this. Like grandma did. Take cuttings and put in water. Just a cup of water and change the water every few days. Put in a area with indirect sunlight from a window. 50% will make it.

You can soak in water for 4-5 days and put in soil if you like.
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I threw some scraps in a cup to try this for fun, it's been 3 days
 

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dirtWeevil

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whitebb2727 said:
I pop seeds under full strength light. They can handle the sun so a light won't hurt.
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i know right! I been saying this forever, i always get the best results starting under "the big light" so far MH is my favorite but i haven't had cobs. I have had cuts wilt if thrown right under it so i started moving them to the corners until they root, but then its right under they go
 
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