my undiagnosed plantplant

BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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Im 95% sure its tmv, i just don't have an electronmicroscope to be 100%.
What do yall think?
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I have another thread but no one could figure it out. I posted pics on that thread a week ago with no responses. Thats why im making a new fresh one.

So far ive had ppl say it could be broad mitea. But i washed with insectcidal soap and it didnt help.

Doesnt look like a ph issue

Also the clones i took from her about a month ago are showing the same mosiac blistering
 
vostok

vostok

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at a certainty of 95%

why post here ..?

is RIU members advice worth 5% to your input
 
MeJuana

MeJuana

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Sometimes we can't cure something using a reagent, however, we can confirm it exists. I am going from memory here but I believe the process is treat the affected area with skimmed milk, if the treated area is larger then you are likely a solid candidate for tmv. The control is water alone sprayed on another area.. I don't like my leaves being wet all night so as soon as the suns off them I hit em.

What's on the ground in the background is that wood ashes? (At work, computer sucks) Is it possibly you are slamming out Calcium making your plants susceptible, or pushing something or many things out somehow? Sometimes in the absence of Potassium or Calcium my outdoor plants can look horrid then I straighten it out and they heal but not with Cannabis, actually I grow in planters even outdoors.
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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There's an old saying... When you hear hooves, think horses not zebras...

That being said, the yellow spindley new growth and mosiac everywhere look like zinc deficiency to me.
 
vostok

vostok

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I see no TMV

it could be early days ..???

in most cases in north america the grower also smokes cigarettes

the tobacco can come from any 3rd world shithole

and often the smoker touches his plants just after or during the cig smoking habit

and transmitting the viri in this way

a big clue in checking ur plants with clean hands looking for that thin/thick leaf situation

the thin side of the leaf is yellow and dying, on the other side is very thick

either way if you have this... you are fucked

look to fungi growing as an alt

good luck
 
vostok

vostok

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MeJuana said:
Sometimes we can't cure something using a reagent, however, we can confirm it exists. I am going from memory here but I believe the process is treat the affected area with skimmed milk, if the treated area is larger then you are likely a solid candidate for tmv. The control is water alone sprayed on another area.. I don't like my leaves being wet all night so as soon as the suns off them I hit em.

What's on the ground in the background is that wood ashes? (At work, computer sucks) Is it possibly you are slamming out Calcium making your plants susceptible, or pushing something or many things out somehow? Sometimes in the absence of Potassium or Calcium my outdoor plants can look horrid then I straighten it out and they heal but not with Cannabis, actually I grow in planters even outdoors.
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Skimmed milk is often used by noobs as an prevention against powdery mildew,

largely replaced by proprietary solution's

cold pressed neem oil in my own case good for bugs and molds systemic and organic too ..lol

Good point on the distant ash pile

more than likely, a source of Ph upset

a soil ph test is an easy option

good luck
 
BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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MeJuana said:
Sometimes we can't cure something using a reagent, however, we can confirm it exists. I am going from memory here but I believe the process is treat the affected area with skimmed milk, if the treated area is larger then you are likely a solid candidate for tmv. The control is water alone sprayed on another area.. I don't like my leaves being wet all night so as soon as the suns off them I hit em.

What's on the ground in the background is that wood ashes? (At work, computer sucks) Is it possibly you are slamming out Calcium making your plants susceptible, or pushing something or many things out somehow? Sometimes in the absence of Potassium or Calcium my outdoor plants can look horrid then I straighten it out and they heal but not with Cannabis, actually I grow in planters even outdoors.
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Skimmed milk is for powdery mildew it will make pm go away temporarily. But spit does the same. Either way it comes back monthss later...

Those ashes are the pile of soil from when i dug the hole and stuck in the pot. Which is a pot attached to the top of a 5 gal. It has ffhf and 30% perlite. The hole is about 4 feet deep. Am i in bad soil?

The bottom of the bucket was cut off before i transplanted in btw.

Resinhound said:
There's an old saying... When you hear hooves, think horses not zebras...

That being said, the yellow spindley new growth and mosiac everywhere look like zinc deficiency to me.
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Zinc...? Possibly ill have to look at some pictures of it to compare to.

vostok said:
I see no TMV

it could be early days ..???

in most cases in north america the grower also smokes cigarettes

the tobacco can come from any 3rd world shithole

and often the smoker touches his plants just after or during the cig smoking habit

and transmitting the viri in this way

a big clue in checking ur plants with clean hands looking for that thin/thick leaf situation

the thin side of the leaf is yellow and dying, on the other side is very thick

either way if you have this... you are fucked

look to fungi growing as an alt

good luck
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This issue has been here for awhile now. At least a month or so. Its a 3 month old plant.

Grow fungi haha thats rich
I assure u i wont give up growing is my calling in life.

Thanks for all the help so far guys! :)
I really appreciate your time.
 
BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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I checked out the zinc def and i do have white tips. But zinc def doesn't cause spotting
Im using gh preformance pack maybe its lacking zinc. I also dont add cal mag to my water cause i use hard water. My water tests about 180ppm from tap. Should i start adding that?
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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BionicΩChronic said:
I checked out the zinc def and i do have white tips. But zinc def doesn't cause spotting
Im using gh preformance pack maybe its lacking zinc. I also dont add cal mag to my water cause i use hard water. My water tests about 180ppm from tap. Should i start adding that?
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Better read again one of the trademark signs of a zinc deficiency is a "mosaic patterning"

That coupled with the unhealthy new growth that's yellowing between the veins is pretty strong evidence.

Leaf Color:
Yellow Leaves - New Growth
Yellowing Between Veins
Mottling / Mosaic Pattern

But again.. Maybe it's just a super rare viral infection that hasn't even been proven to even affect cannabis.
 
vostok

vostok

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BionicΩChronic said:
Those ashes are the pile of soil from when i dug the hole and stuck in the pot. Which is a pot attached to the top of a 5 gal. It has ffhf and 30% perlite. The hole is about 4 feet deep. Am i in bad soil?The bottom of the bucket was cut off before i transplanted in btw.
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as stated above.. OBVIOUS

good luck
 
BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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Resinhound said:
Better read again one of the trademark signs of a zinc deficiency is a "mosaic patterning"

That coupled with the unhealthy new growth that's yellowing between the veins is pretty strong evidence.
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Resinhound said:
Better read again one of the trademark signs of a zinc deficiency is a "mosaic patterning"

That coupled with the unhealthy new growth that's yellowing between the veins is pretty strong evidence.

Leaf Color:
Yellow Leaves - New Growth
Yellowing Between Veins
Mottling / Mosaic Pattern

But again.. Maybe it's just a super rare viral infection that hasn't even been proven to even affect cannabis.
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Well said.
When i feed her i give her 5ml of grow and 5ml of micro as well as 2ml bloom. Im going to up the micro and bloom.

Do you guys think i will be good though. This is the only large plant i have outdoors and im looking forward to trying some ghost train haze #1. Then again i really dont really know why im asking lol you guys arent fortune tellers.

vostok said:
as stated above.. OBVIOUS

good luck
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Thank you
 
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