Name that deficiency!

Clumpyoyster

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hanimmal said:
Just to embarrass myself, I will guess early overwatering (lower leaves look a bit swollen) that led to some yellowing, which then prompted a bump up in nutrients (the green line down the middle in some of the leaves). Next up, I would look out for small spots forming saying they are getting too much food.
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To be honest i highly doubt that these plants are overwatered right from the start i am so careful not to over water and wait until the leaves droop a bit before they get their next watering. i think i developed the deficiency over time watering with less nutes this grow. i hit the plants with nutes almost full strength every feeding last grow and didnt have a problem with lockout or burn. This time i thought i would try some new watering schedules and techniques which in the end caused this problem. i am still not sure and guess time will tell. i did however through all this notice and killed a thrip problem so thanks to everyone on here for that help, but if anyone can diagnose this one please try.
 
Bernie420

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Clumpyoyster said:
To be honest i highly doubt that these plants are overwatered right from the start i am so careful not to over water and wait until the leaves droop a bit before they get their next watering. i think i developed the deficiency over time watering with less nutes this grow. i hit the plants with nutes almost full strength every feeding last grow and didnt have a problem with lockout or burn. This time i thought i would try some new watering schedules and techniques which in the end caused this problem. i am still not sure and guess time will tell. i did however through all this notice and killed a thrip problem so thanks to everyone on here for that help, but if anyone can diagnose this one please try.
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Hard to tell from the pics but I see a couple of leaves with a potassium deficiency and the other things look like mag to me. Its almost impossible to grow an award winning weed plant I suggest you dont try. I wouldnt worry about the potassium deficiency and just add some epsom salt to a watering/feeding once a week.
 
Clumpyoyster

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Bernie420 said:
Hard to tell from the pics but I see a couple of leaves with a potassium deficiency and the other things look like mag to me. Its almost impossible to grow an award winning weed plant I suggest you dont try. I wouldnt worry about the potassium deficiency and just add some epsom salt to a watering/feeding once a week.
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I'm not to concerned with it all just want to learn along the way. I was thinking, after doing my internet research, that mainly a magnesium def. i sprayed with epson about two days ago and they look a bit better then they did and also gave them a good dose of nutes yesterday so in the next few days we should see. I am in 3 gallon pots right now do you all think i should transplant to 5 gallon before going into flower?
 
Bernie420

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Clumpyoyster said:
I'm not to concerned with it all just want to learn along the way. I was thinking, after doing my internet research, that mainly a magnesium def. i sprayed with epson about two days ago and they look a bit better then they did and also gave them a good dose of nutes yesterday so in the next few days we should see. I am in 3 gallon pots right now do you all think i should transplant to 5 gallon before going into flower?
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yes, you'll want to transplant at least two weeks before flip if not longer.

watch some of this guys videos, listen to what he says at the end. Although I dont think our plants need as much as he says but they do need it alot, half these posts here are mag related, but hes talking about regular gardening, the info still applies you just apply it to weed.


 
Clumpyoyster

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Ok I think I have this narrowed down to a Magnesium def. here a few pics of the worst one and new leaves off the bottom of the plant. I know my run off is at 6.4 I’m in promix premium soil and am about 2 days away from transplanting into 5 gallon pots using promix HP with mycorrhizae. What should I do with these? They are mainly healthy and I know transplanting will also help with this.
 

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Bernie420

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Clumpyoyster said:
Ok I think I have this narrowed down to a Magnesium def. here a few pics of the worst one and new leaves off the bottom of the plant. I know my run off is at 6.4 I’m in promix premium soil and am about 2 days away from transplanting into 5 gallon pots using promix HP with mycorrhizae. What should I do with these? They are mainly healthy and I know transplanting will also help with this.
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those leaves are mag the one on the plant is potassium.
Research microbes, humic acid, watch that video above.

Run off ph doesnt mean anything, microbes regulate the ph at the root surface. Your rum off is 6.4 did you water in at 6.5, you should of. Anyways its 6.4 now what? Nothing, its a useless number.

The plant wants its ph where it wants it and you messing with it is messing with the plant.
 
Clumpyoyster

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I did give it micro nutes yesterday with calmag as well. I bought micro nutes after watching the video. Also sprayed with Epson few days back. Hopefully see some improvement after the feeding yesterday
 
Bernie420

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Clumpyoyster said:
I did give it micro nutes yesterday with calmag as well. I bought micro nutes after watching the video. Also sprayed with Epson few days back. Hopefully see some improvement after the feeding yesterday
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Microbes and micro nutes are two very different things. In case your didnt know???

You should foliar feed the epsom again. It isnt a one time spray and done thing. After they recover you can do the mag at the roots if you want but foliar feeding the mag is the fastest way right now.

And actually your plants dont look bad at all and you probably dont need to be chasing problems too hard.
 
Clumpyoyster

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Bernie420 said:
Microbes and micro nutes are two very different things. In case your didnt know???

You should foliar feed the epsom again. It isnt a one time spray and done thing. After they recover you can do the mag at the roots if you want but foliar feeding the mag is the fastest way right now.

And actually your plants dont look bad at all and you probably dont need to be chasing problems too hard.
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Ya at the end of it all i just want to try to catch these problems and learn how to quickly deal with it Brenie420. I appreciate your advice and everyone on here for that matter, and will be spraying with Epson again tomorrow night. I think they still look pretty good lol just want to do better then my last/first grow
 
swedsteven

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Clumpyoyster said:
Promix
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Use that for veggie i try that soils it suck
Try the big one promix bx cheaper better
They other one come with slow realease nut not good men that was your issue.

If u want add a bag off compost to promix bx then et voila !

In this soil u should never give more then 600 ppm as its organic soil and high ppm slow down then kill your soil microbe and fungi anareobic and acid soil will bring down ur ph then Everything is lock....
 
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Clumpyoyster

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swedsteven said:
Use that for veggie i try that soils it suck
Try the big one promix bx cheaper better
They other one come with slow realease nut not good men that was your issue.

If u want add a bag off compost to promix bx then et voila !

In this soil u should never give more then 600 ppm as its organic soil and high ppm slow down then kill your soil microbe and fungi anareobic and acid soil will bring down ur ph then Everything is lock....
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thanks sven but i havent had a problem since this post using promix HP everything is ok since this post check it out....
 

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