This thread is about taxes tokeprep.
If you don't want to discuss it, don't raise it. Then there will be no discussion.
I suggested we aren't addressing the fundamentals of it all and only the symptoms.
This was all covered in detail here
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/652366-impossible-deficit-falling-well-unemployment.html
You never successfully refuted any point made there.....actually you chose the strawman route.
Somehow in the discussion you mentioned you were gay, work for the government, and brought up slavery in America, then proclaimed victory.
Its OK self preservation is only natural.
Thanks for clarifying the district courts have exclusive original cognizance for all seizures on land.
Does the the IRS seize shit?
The problem is that you're connecting clauses that are obviously disconnected. The "and shall also have" that relates to "saving to suitors" is connected to "all civil causes of admiralty or maritime jurisdiction." Then there's another "and shall also have" relating to "seizures on land." As is clear in the text:
"
and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of
all civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, including all seizures under laws of impost, navigation or trade of the United States, where the seizures are made, on waters which are navigable from the sea by vessels of ten or more tons burthen, within their respective districts as well as upon the high seas;
saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it; and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of all
seizures on land..."
You need not take my word for it. "The savings to suitors clause is a right under the federal law which allows a party to pursue a remedy
for a maritime claim in a state court when entitled to such remedy."
http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/saving-to-suitors-clause/.
The supreme court has explained this: "In a subsequent case,
the Court defined the saving to suitors clause as a grant to state courts of in personam jurisdiction, concurrent with admiralty courts...“The ‘
right of a common law remedy,’ so saved to suitors, does not … include attempted changes by the States in the substantive
admiralty law, but it does include all means other than proceedings
in admiralty which may be employed to enforce the right or to redress the injury involved...Thus,
the saving to suitors clause preserves remedies and the concurrent jurisdiction of state courts
over some admiralty and maritime claims." From Lewis v. Lewis & Clark Marine, 531 US 438.
The present rendering of the jurisdictional statute at 28 US Code 1333 is further evidence: "The district courts shall have original jurisdiction, exclusive of the courts of the States, of:
(1) Any civil case of admiralty or maritime jurisdiction, saving to suitors in all cases all other remedies to which they are otherwise entitled."
An IRS seizure could only possibly be construed to trigger the "saving to suitors" clause if the seizure related to something that falls under admiralty/maritime jurisdiction. Your original claim in this thread was that the Judiciary Act of 1789 provides the right to a common law remedy related to currency. Because that has nothing to do with admiralty, which is what the "saving to suitors" clause relates to, that claim is just not tenable.