National Defense Authorization Act sections 1031 and 1032

FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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For some reason I feel like they will be able to call a U.S. Citizen a terrorist really easily... Imo people with 30 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition will be covered by this. Anyone who is against the Gov will be considered a terrorist. Occupiers will be considered terrorist.... Do you not get that the government looks out for themselves and only themselves. I have a bad feeling that they are going to abuse this power just like they abuse every other power.

Defending the governments decision on a bill that could be a potential threat on U.S Citizens. Smart people are saying this is bad man. It's shredding whats left of our bill of rights to pieces.

Do you really think this is for actual terrorist?
 
FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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This is for when they tell you to get a RFID chip and you refuse. Or when they tell you to pay outrageous taxes and you say no, that's not right. When one goes to their retreat in the woods and lives self sustainably they will be affected by this bill.

They don't want people to live off the land, they want them to pay their damn sales tax and like it. Homesteaders will be taken to a concentration camp or die with their fingers on the trigger.
 
FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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Everything has a loop hole with these guys. Just wait till it's a law.. There is nothing that we can do about it...
 
deprave

deprave

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Ok...Its really not nessecary to go on the usual RFID chip and Patriots and OWS shit about this...


THIS IS SOOOO MUCH WORSE! THIS IS SO BAD THAT IT GOES AGAINST.....to name a few...

GANDHI, JESUS, MOHAMMED, SOCRATES, HILLEL, PLATO, AND EVEN THE TYRANICAL RULER NERO OF ROME.....SORRY THIS GOES AGAINST ALL PHILOSOPHY FOR ALL OF WRITTEN HISTORY FOR 10's OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!! THIS IS AGAINST NATURAL LAW COMPLETELY! This goes back to ancient history!

No Reason to be on the Fence about this WHATSOEVER! Unless you disagree with everyone who has even thought about this in the history of mankind...I mean really..Think about it yourself lol
 
deprave

deprave

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dukeanthony said:
Please Follow the Doctor recommended scheduling for your medications
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Please explain why we should live in a nationalist war zone....Ill ask you what you think when we meet up at the weed growers concentration camp for supporting terrorism. Now please explain to me why you disagree with Jesus, Mohammed, Gandhi, Hillel, Plato, Socrates, Thomas Jefferson, Paine, and others on this subject.

Do you also want to bring back slavery? This is a natural rights issue you know..Thats how they kept slavery going, they ignored natural rights philosophy. (see DreadScott Decision)
 
FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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I'm saying not accepting what the government serves on a dirty stainless steel platter is going to be considered terrorism. To rebel in any way will be looked at as non american. Being anti government and pro citizen will be a terrorist.

This bill comes first. Then they pass something we all dissagree on next. When we express our feelings we will have our doors kicked in...
 
FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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dukeanthony said:
No its not
Its for those who Choose to attack America from foreign soil
You cannot use American Citizenship as a Sheild to protect you when you Attack us
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It's for whoever the hell they want it for! They are giving themselves more power. There will be some more bills coming that will totally change America into something you never believed. Sorry I don't have facts to lay out for all of this, Just have a bad feeling .. Just like the other 75% of the country that's going WTF :wall:
 
FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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Why is a 16 year old here for politics? 16 year olds cant even vote, what the fuck is this shit lol. And saying weed is for idiots? Why you here? Someone hack him
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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Deprave, flip flop much? Didn't we go over this already? What gives, man?

Revisionist BS...



Subtitle D--Detainee Matters





SEC. 1031. AUTHORITY TO DETAIN UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS CAPTURED PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.
  • (a) In General- The Armed Forces of the United States are authorized to detain covered persons captured in the course of hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) as unprivileged enemy belligerents pending disposition under the law of war.
  • (b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person, including but not limited to persons for whom detention is required under section 1032, as follows:
    • (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
    • (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
  • (c) Disposition Under Law of War- The disposition of a person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may include the following:
    • (1) Long-term detention under the law of war without trial until the end of hostilities against the nations, organizations, and persons subject to the Authorization for Use of Military Force.
    • (2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009 (title XVIII of Public Law 111-84)).
    • (3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.
    • (4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person's country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.
  • (d) Constitutional Limitation on Applicability to United States Persons- The authority to detain a person under this section does not extend to the detention of citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
SEC. 1032. REQUIRED MILITARY CUSTODY FOR MEMBERS OF AL-QAEDA AND AFFILIATED ENTITIES.
  • (a) Custody Pending Disposition Under Law of War-
    • (1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraph (4), the Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described in paragraph (2) in military custody as an unprivileged enemy belligerent pending disposition under the law of war.
    • (2) APPLICABILITY TO AL-QAEDA AND AFFILIATED ENTITIES- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any covered person under section 1031(b) who is determined to be--
      • (A) a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an affiliated entity; and
      • (B) a participant in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.
    • (3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this subsection, the disposition of a person under the law of war has the meaning given in section 1031(c), except that no transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section 1033.
    • (4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY- The Secretary of Defense may, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if the Secretary submits to Congress a certification in writing that such a waiver is in the national security interests of the United States.
  • (b) Requirement Inapplicable to United States Citizens- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
  • (c) Effective Date- This section shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act, and shall apply with respect to persons described in subsection (a)(2) who are taken into the custody or brought under the control of the United States on or after that date.
deprave said:
No Shit!

thats why I put it in red................

and then agreed with you...


why else would it be in red?
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deprave

deprave

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hmm okay, didnt notice the part D last time, I just thought for some reason the part B applied to the first section. Thank god..I was all worked up again lol

just for refrence, the part D I had not highlighted in RED
 
deprave

deprave

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What else would it be? I am just making it up for personal gain of some sort? What would I have to gain? I simply didn't read part D
 
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