Ah, ok I understand you. But the FFHF doesn't have much nutes to start off with, are you thinking of the FF Ocean Forest? That one used to get me through veg as long as I didn't over water and repotted. But I've always had to amend the Happy Frog. I used to use 75/25 OF/HF before I started mixing my own and it got me right to flipping without adding anything else.
