Need Advise Leaves Falling Off Fast Maybe Deficiency Need Input Please

NateDizity1420

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Im looking for anyone that can give me input on a problem I am having with my plants. I grown for quite a few season now and Ive never had leaves falling off and dieing like this in the flowering stage before. Any input would be great, I dont know if its over fertilization, ph problem, nute deficiency, over watering etc... please help. Listed below is my set up and the nutes and water schedule I am using.

1)Clones were planted in 3.5 gallon pots in the beginning of August
2)Soil is some what compacted w/ 3 parts soil 1 perlite
3)Soil PH tested at 7.0
4)Plants have been in flower for 24 days
5)PH of water after being adjusted is 6.5 (Never checked the run off)
6)Using Fox Farm Nutes: Right now giving them TigerBloom, BigBloom, BeastieBloomz & A.N. BudCandy
7)They get watered about every 4 days or when pots are light
8)I water with TigerBloom one watering then water with BigBloom,BeastieBloomz & BudCandy the next watering
9)Plants are under 600w HPS in 5x5x8 box
10)Plants do have fan blowing air around and I do have an exhaust fan taking out air
11)Temp is usually around 80 and Humidity is usually around 65
12)Plants stems are soft leaves break off easy
13)There are some buds that are turning purple which maybe a sign of P deficiency (Not a strain quality)

Below are the photos showing what the plants look like at the top and what the leaves and bottoms look like.
 

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justfkngrowit

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Your plants are fine man. Lol. They look WONDERFUL! The lower fan leaves fall off during flowering. and I mean your low LOW fan leaves are falling off. Everything is fine. You're doing a fine job.
 

lime73

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Have you ever given them just Ph adjusted water to flush out soil from salt build up which will lockout nutes!
 

NateDizity1420

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Thanks for the replies, but to answer your question lime73: No Ive never just gave them plain ph adjusted water. When I water them with BudCandy its just BC and PH adjusted water but thats as close as Ive got to watering them with plain water, Ill have to do that next watering here in acouple days. They just had me worried because every couple days or so im picking up a hand full of leaves off the floor and plants and it just seemed like they were falling off too fast. thanks again for the replies
 

NateDizity1420

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Can anyone tell me is this maybe a P (Phosphorus) deficiency since I do have some purpling of buds, weak/soft, steams, leaves falling off from bottom up and my leaves start out with getting a brown on the edges then works back the leaf and kills it in about 2-3 days???????? Any info would be great.
 

valhalla88

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I have the same problem with my cali hash plant and I think I killed it...my dumb ass cut the rootball as a member told me to and the whole plant is sucked up now..leaves all shriveled...but b4 I did that I had leaves dropping left and right and not just at the bottom...all my others are doing great...
 

NateDizity1420

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ya i cant figure it out, ive never had this problem before. Its not just one strain either its my blueberrys, ice & white rhinos that are doing and like you said the leaves are dropping off left and right every day. Im afraid there not gona make it the final 4 weeks or that its going to stunt my plants and fuck up the buds. Sorry to hear about you Cali plant that sucks
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
After you flush you can give them a 1/2 dose of nutes and these will be available to the plant once the flush is done!
What happened is that you where always giving them nutes(salt) so they build up over time...look around top of pot around the edge was there white residue? That would be salt if yes. These need to be flushed out at least once a month! In soil... Unless you do it as you go? But you have not so... these salts are causing a lockout of N-P-K and some others too! So it looks like a def...and it is, but it is caused from to much nutes in the soil. When you flush I bet it will look like dark pee!

Good luck and Keep em Green!
 

valhalla88

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After you flush you can give them a 1/2 dose of nutes and these will be available to the plant once the flush is done!
What happened is that you where always giving them nutes(salt) so they build up over time...look around top of pot around the edge was there white residue? That would be salt if yes. These need to be flushed out at least once a month! In soil... Unless you do it as you go? But you have not so... these salts are causing a lockout of N-P-K and some others too! So it looks like a def...and it is, but it is caused from to much nutes in the soil. When you flush I bet it will look like dark pee!

Good luck and Keep em Green!
my chp is in dwc and it got fresh water every other nute...so I can't see that being my problem...all my soil plants are thriving I'll put up pics tomorrow ...I'm stressed to the maxxx one thing after another today...just one of those days...
 

valhalla88

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ya i cant figure it out, ive never had this problem before. Its not just one strain either its my blueberrys, ice & white rhinos that are doing and like you said the leaves are dropping off left and right every day. Im afraid there not gona make it the final 4 weeks or that its going to stunt my plants and fuck up the buds. Sorry to hear about you Cali plant that sucks
Thanks for the feed back bro..I hope we can get it figured but no matter how many times I grow ...I always have a obstacle and that is usually the lesson ...there is always room for growth...take care bud!
 

Weed Daddy

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Hey Nate, I agree with Lime... sounds like u need to flush like at least once during your flower period..( nutrient lock-out) like three weeks in..? also... the humidity would be perfect at 50 % 65 a tad high..( get a dehumidifier) try some silicone product on next run for the stock weakness... like pro silicate or similar .. did u change any of the nutes u use>?? sometimes new strains dont like the old recipe... Good luck man ! Peace
 

NateDizity1420

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No dout ive been growing for 8 years now harvesting about ever 3-4 months and Im stilling learning and dealing w/ new shit & problems each time. Im going to do like lime73 said above and give my plants a flushing and see if it helps. Im going to keep reading through my books and the internet to see if I can sort this out, Ill keep you guys posted on whether it helps them or not. I do have a dehumidifier WeedDaddy its just when I run it in my grow room it gets the temps inside my tent 10-15 degrees hotter than normal and it doesnt seem like my exhaust system can take care of the xtra heat. Rite now i got it running in my harvest room drying out buds but I think im going to do like you said and move it over to my flowering room so I can get that humidity down, thanks for you guys input on the situation.
 

NateDizity1420

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Well I flushed my pots out with just ph'd water, I also checked the run off ph and it read at 6.0ph and I couldnt find any signs of salt build up on my pots, so I dont know if my soil needing flushed is the problem. I think its def a nute def., but Id love to get some more input from other growers.
 
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