Need Electrical advice!

bro54209

bro54209

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Hey rollers so Ive been concerned whether ive been overloading the circuts. I absolutely can't fuck up the wiring to this house, its a brand new rental. I got a real small house less than 700sqft, and ive been running a 600watt + 400 watter with fans and other gadgets combined.

##My kitchen bedroom n bathroom lights or room fans aren't turning on### yet the fans are still running to the op so the outlet is working but the light SWITCHES flicking on/off aswell as the cord attached to the fan to turn it on. I was trying to vacuum before i noticed and noticed the vac couldn't use the bathroom outlet and one in the kitchen but some outlets worked

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Ive been plugging all 1000watts plus a little more to the outlet that was designated to be the washer/dryer yet its only a 110volt. 600watts went to the top and 400watt to the bottom of the same outlet. The only other outlet has 2 fans hooked up to it and could try and put 600watts on each of the 2 outlets spread over the 4 openings (2plugs per outlet).
 
bro54209

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covert222 said:
Sounds like you're pulling about 10 amps. Your dryer probably on a 50?
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a dryer pulls 50 amps?(P=IV so 50amps*220volts=~11,000watts??) its labeled as dryer on the circuit box but it looks like all the other rgular 120volts- i accidently tripped it multiple times the other day when i plugged in the space heater to heat up the tent. It tripped a bunch trying to use the heater for the first time and was the first time it tripped since i started back in november- so i figured the heater pushed the amp threshold. was able to keep the lights going without it tripping without the heater(this happend like 3-4 days ago). my timers were only 40 minutes behind so im pretty sure it hasnt been turning off but just that one day.

I dont actually have a dryer that was how the circuit was labeled. but would a dryer seriously pull 50 amps? 11,000 watts seems wayy to high. basically 90% of outlets working as usual with the switches not turning anything on, so i could plug in a lamp to light up my room through an outlet but the wiring in the wall isnt working. the house was built by students- they installed the outlets upside down l0l
 
SPLFreak808

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bro54209 said:
Hey rollers so Ive been concerned whether ive been overloading the circuts. I absolutely can't fuck up the wiring to this house, its a brand new rental. I got a real small house less than 700sqft, and ive been running a 600watt + 400 watter with fans and other gadgets combined.

##My kitchen bedroom n bathroom lights or room fans aren't turning on### yet the fans are still running to the op so the outlet is working but the light SWITCHES flicking on/off aswell as the cord attached to the fan to turn it on. I was trying to vacuum before i noticed and noticed the vac couldn't use the bathroom outlet and one in the kitchen but some outlets worked

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Ive been plugging all 1000watts plus a little more to the outlet that was designated to be the washer/dryer yet its only a 110volt. 600watts went to the top and 400watt to the bottom of the same outlet. The only other outlet has 2 fans hooked up to it and could try and put 600watts on each of the 2 outlets spread over the 4 openings (2plugs per outlet).
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Bro it honestly sounds like some shit is already fucked up lol. If all those sockets dont work but the breaker is still good, you might have burnt some wiring. Especially if they used small wires on big breakers. For example, if your dryer is on a 240v/50a breaker but wired with 10/12 guage then the wire would burn well before the breaker would even pop. Whomever wired that shit before could have half assed it. I see it many times.
 
bro54209

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OMG wtf do I do, seriously do i need to pay somone 400 bucks to fix this shit without the landlord knowing about it? this op gets crazier every day! lol I dont know if its something to seriously not fuck with alone using youtube videos and wiki articles or to just fork it out. packing EVERYthing up and getting someone in here to do anything is making my sober head explode- that has to be avoided at all costs, what do i do?!
 
bro54209

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At the minimum- the lights should be able to turn on in a little bit, ill just need to keep the tents open to see anything- the computer screen aint doin it
 
SPLFreak808

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bro54209 said:
OMG wtf do I do, seriously do i need to pay somone 400 bucks to fix this shit without the landlord knowing about it? this op gets crazier every day! lol I dont know if its something to seriously not fuck with alone using youtube videos and wiki articles or to just fork it out. packing EVERYthing up and getting someone in here to do anything is making my sober head explode- that has to be avoided at all costs, what do i do?!
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Shut off the power, shut off the power,SHUT OFF THE POWER and do a continuity test from the light socket to the switch. If good then do a continuity test from switch to breaker/outlet. If you don't know how then sorry but hire somebody.
 
bro54209

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SPLFreak808 said:
Shut off the power, shut off the power,SHUT OFF THE POWER and do a continuity test from the light socket to the switch. If good then do a continuity test from switch to breaker/outlet. If you don't know how then sorry but hire somebody.
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the lights were coming on in 30 minutes I shut everything OFF. Im going to have to youtube continuity tests- i really cant hire anybody right now if all possible. I figure if something blew that the extra 10-12 amps would fuck it up even though that outlet its running from still works- that load proably shorted a circuit that runs between the box>tent outlets> wall switches.
I should have fucking listened to the universe when the dam thing tripped 5 times in the hour using that dam space heater for an extra few degrees...
Its most certainly better to be safe than sorry but if the outlet is working id reallly hate to shut the op down if a lot of rollers think i could keep just that one outlet on safely (although keeping the light off for 24 hours or longer while trying to figure it all out will stress the fuck out of my mothers and new clones, but if being stupid to keep the lights on for tonight means destroying the outlets and having to hire an electrician is not worth it... fuck i put so much into this grow I have to see them finish flower! they got 2 weeks!
 
SPLFreak808

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bro54209 said:
the lights were coming on in 30 minutes I shut everything OFF. Im going to have to youtube continuity tests- i really cant hire anybody right now if all possible. I figure if something blew that the extra 10-12 amps would fuck it up even though that outlet its running from still works- that load proably shorted a circuit that runs between the box>tent outlets> wall switches.
I should have fucking listened to the universe when the dam thing tripped 5 times in the hour using that dam space heater for an extra few degrees...
Its most certainly better to be safe than sorry but if the outlet is working id reallly hate to shut the op down if a lot of rollers think i could keep just that one outlet on safely (although keeping the light off for 24 hours or longer while trying to figure it all out will stress the fuck out of my mothers and new clones, but if being stupid to keep the lights on for tonight means destroying the outlets and having to hire an electrician is not worth it... fuck i put so much into this grow I have to see them finish flower! they got 2 weeks!
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Then dont fuck with anything. Finish them off first before you end up with no power and freezing temps lol
 
bro54209

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SPLFreak808 said:
Bro it honestly sounds like some shit is already fucked up lol. If all those sockets dont work but the breaker is still good, you might have burnt some wiring. Especially if they used small wires on big breakers. For example, if your dryer is on a 240v/50a breaker but wired with 10/12 guage then the wire would burn well before the breaker would even pop. Whomever wired that shit before could have half assed it. I see it many times.
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I think your right about it being half assed- the landowner bought it new from a school and had to pay 900 bucks to get plumbers to double check the teachers work- which ended up leaking under the kitchen sink.... yay
LUCKILY they were able to fix everything in the kitchen without going into the bedroom- i was so stressed, but man these retarded students put the outlets in upside down. If adding the heater made it trip, then it would definitely be running maxed out on 12 amps,
so if the wire burned thats connected to the switches in the wall then why would the outlet still be working? If u think i can keep everything off except the outlet im pugging in my lights then i can get high and sleep comfortably tonight, but i literally just got a strong ass whiff of some good- dam! tht filter cannot go off for longer than 10 minutes ;o
 
SPLFreak808

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bro54209 said:
I think your right about it being half assed- the landowner bought it new from a school and had to pay 900 bucks to get plumbers to double check the teachers work- which ended up leaking under the kitchen sink.... yay
LUCKILY they were able to fix everything in the kitchen without going into the bedroom- i was so stressed, but man these retarded students put the outlets in upside down. If adding the heater made it trip, then it would definitely be running maxed out on 12 amps,
so if the wire burned thats connected to the switches in the wall then why would the outlet still be working? If u think i can keep everything off except the outlet im pugging in my lights then i can get high and sleep comfortably tonight, but i literally just got a strong ass whiff of some good- dam! tht filter cannot go off for longer than 10 minutes ;o
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Well it depends. Im not sure if they wired the light switches to an outlet near, or all on a seperate line. Things like this cannot be thought out in your head if someone previously fucked something up. You would have to see how it's wired. Also, when a wire burns sometimes it will not burn all the way. Meaning it might still read 120/240v but it wouldn't be capable of passing any current. So your space heater tripped the outlet 5 times yet the same outlet works but the lights on the switch dont?
 
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I was mad earlier cause i couldnt boil any hot dogs without any light, but the burner is electric yay- then i jsut realize my fridge has to stay on all night that shits gunna rot, fuck. SPLFreak808 do you think keeping the fridge and the outlet running the op would be safe or (risky not worth it at all?) if its worked for a few months and I turn literally every other outlet off? Im i survival mode now my laptop is at 71% lol... I apreciate all the advice a BUNCH!
 
bro54209

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SPLFreak808 said:
Well it depends. Im not sure if they wired the light switches to an outlet near, or all on a seperate line. Things like this cannot be thought out in your head if someone previously fucked something up. You would have to see how it's wired. Also, when a wire burns sometimes it will not burn all the way. Meaning it might still read 120/240v but it wouldn't be capable of passing any current. So your space heater tripped the outlet 5 times yet the same outlet works but the lights on the switch dont?
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Correct, it could be a completely separate issue. the outlet the space heat was added on (op outlet) tripped ( was able to jsut keep turning it back on at the breaker pannel), I
 
bro54209

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stupid enter key posted that early, <<<< I had the heat only pugged in for n hour then after it tripped like a 3rd or 4th time I unplugged it knowing it was at its threshold, the lights were working continuously since then with no problems. The outlet was still working fans still running everything ok, except all the light switches in the house, so they might be on their own circuit, nothing was tripped at the box today, I just hope its unrelated, but i could very well be wrong, i really dont think im going to keep the fridge and dryer outlet off honestly, i hope to god im not walking into further issues keeping those 2 on
 
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OK so I quit yapping and troubleshat, every outlet works except the one at the bottom left in livin room (was giving issue before) and the one in the bathroom(recently noticed) that i know of, with all the I know I cant be for sure how it is wired, but i have a good feeling the line is direct to the outlet close to the breaker, not sure how its connected overhead to the central ac unit directly above the 600watter, but Id imagine if the one to the bottom left doesnt work yet the one to the top right works, that the outlets are wired individually in parrallel circuits rather than together in a single circuit, that i think i could manage for tonight but mann I need to figure this big one out before i take another bite, So i turned everything back on that i need Im eating in the dark getting stoned then figuring out how to test this all out tomorrow, hopefully I can manage this, Thanks for all the help
 

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covert222

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No a dryer wouldn't pull 50 it would be on a bigger circuit. At least a 30. You can get a 25 dollar volt meter and start checking your outlets as you trip breakers to see what matches up with what so you can separate your power to different circuits
 
bro54209

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covert222 said:
No a dryer wouldn't pull 50 it would be on a bigger circuit. At least a 30. You can get a 25 dollar volt meter and start checking your outlets as you trip breakers to see what matches up with what so you can separate your power to different circuits
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I tried that, on the bathroom outlet that went out at the same time had no charge between the two slits but when i had one on the ground wire hole and one to the right slit, then i got 100 volts. The outlet running the op is at 120volts running smoothly. the other outlet to the bottom left in the living room has 10 volts between the slits and 100 volts on the ground hole and a side slit. Day 2 eating in the dark, trying to feed all my girls tonight is going to take 10x as long ;/
 
Carolina Dream'n

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bro54209 said:
I tried that, on the bathroom outlet that went out at the same time had no charge between the two slits but when i had one on the ground wire hole and one to the right slit, then i got 100 volts. The outlet running the op is at 120volts running smoothly. the other outlet to the bottom left in the living room has 10 volts between the slits and 100 volts on the ground hole and a side slit. Day 2 eating in the dark, trying to feed all my girls tonight is going to take 10x as long ;/
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A dryer is 30 amp 220v. Almost all of the of them. You have your stuff plugged into the washer curcuit most likely, which is 20 amp.

Your blew the breaker when you plugged in the heater. Unplugged it and problem was fixed.

I don't understand why you are eating in the dark.
 
bro54209

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Carolina Dream'n said:
A dryer is 30 amp 220v. Almost all of the of them. You have your stuff plugged into the washer curcuit most likely, which is 20 amp.

Your blew the breaker when you plugged in the heater. Unplugged it and problem was fixed.

I don't understand why you are eating in the dark.
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It could be completely unrelated- I was paranoid that plugging in just over 1000 watts with it tripping could have overloaded a circuit its connected to. either way those dumb students left a loose wire somewhere im still needing to find. At least I found a lamp I could plug into a working outlet- so no more darkness
 
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