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Check this source: https://web.archive.org/web/20100622102350/http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/

I quote Dunning & Kruger themself:

“When people are incompetent in the strategies they adopt to achieve success and satisfaction, they suffer a dual burden: Not only do they reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. Instead, like Mr. Wheeler, they are left with the erroneous impression they are doing just fine.”

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Your last post and the ones before make me just laughter out loud! You are embarrassing! I wish you great fun one day catching an aspergillus invasion of your lung!

Then I go:
told ya so, and you THEN start whining and find no help, but there must be something the doctors could help you... no ... you fucked up! Too late you thought about it. Byebye

CheGueVapo said:

Check this source: https://web.archive.org/web/20100622102350/http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/

I quote Dunning & Kruger themself:


Your last post and the ones before make me just laughter!

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I read all your posts in a thick German accent. That way they have at least some value (very very minimal value ) to me.

Though I'm glad you've looked up Dunning Kruger...good on you, doing your internut research. Yet you have so little self awareness. Also, stay the eff out of my inbox.

Competent americans pointing out reasonable issues (the "what i know" part of it). Thats competence!

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Competent americans pointing out reasonable issues (the "what i know" part of it). Thats competence!

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Sure. Post someone I've never voted for from a party I've never voted for, who's also generally seen as a laughing stock loon except for a super tiny part of the US. You're not making the point you think you are. But feel free to continue to show everyone that assholes exist in every country.

My flower room is a variety pack. 2 plants with 2-50ww FS cobs, 2-60ww Multi LED w IR, 1-150ww HPS. Ordered a 100ww multi LED FS with IR & UV. Need to order another.

In my veg tent it's a first time use of some 80w strip FS LEDs. Plants seems to be sensitive to it as the burn is real, not so much in the flower room. Going to get a bigger fan for veg tent for circulation.

Three Berries said:

My flower room is a variety pack. 2 plants with 2-50ww FS cobs, 2-60ww Multi LED w IR, 1-150ww HPS. Ordered a 100ww multi LED FS with IR & UV. Need to order another.

In my veg tent it's a first time use of some 80w strip FS LEDs. Plants seems to be sensitive to it as the burn is real, not so much in the flower room. Going to get a bigger fan for veg tent for circulation.

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Only one tent for me...right now my lights are a bit cobbled. I did get an HLG 225,but I have a couple 32w LEDs that flank it (since that's what I had). They'll be moved to my germination station (done in a big plastic bin), and I did order in two more HLG 225's. For now, since I'm mid-flower with my current ones, I'll just mount one additional 225 to even out the light a bit but in the future I'll have all three hung. My tent is an oddball at 33d x 60w x 80h. 450w will be good enough for this grow (since it's autos, they won't need the extra firepower) and they'll have the added bonus of raising the tent temperature by a few degrees. Right now I'm averaging 73-78 during the light cycle. Once I go through the seeds I have I'll be doing some photos then I'll have 675w on tap.

I'm still fussing with fans. My intake/exhaust are set (T6/S6), but my interior fans aren't what I really want. I have a pair of Honeywells that just beam a bit too strongly even at their lowest setting. I have them in the two back corners pointing diagonally and each is on a smart plug that's programmed to do a 1-hour on/off cycle and they're slightly offset in timing. Probably moving to some pole mount 6" hurricanes once I get a chance. There's someone around here who does 3D printed mounts.

Nutty sKunK said:

Using mainly peat with worm castings, bat guano, Dol lime and feeding with Plant Magic old timers organic nutes when the soil tires.

38ppm so really soft. Water report states minimal cal/mag

Those PM nutrients have good calcium levels I guess but need additional magnesium which I supplement with Epsom salts.

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Heres some pics of my plant under 300w @MarsHydrofactory FCE3000 at 75% dimmed and approx 18-20” away from the net.

0.7EC pH6 100% coco twice daily feeding.

0.2EC source water
0.2EC calmag
0.3EC base A/B

Obviously I haven’t flowered yet using this light but can’t envisage I will have any further issues than I do right now.

my fan controller is set to 25C and the sensor is on the screen.

jondamon said:

Heres some pics of my plant under 300w @MarsHydrofactory FCE3000 at 75% dimmed and approx 18-20” away from the net.

0.7EC pH6 100% coco twice daily feeding.

0.2EC source water
0.2EC calmag
0.3EC base A/B

Obviously I haven’t flowered yet using this light but can’t envisage I will have any further issues than I do right now.

my fan controller is set to 25C and the sensor is on the screen.

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Since I’ve upped the calmag the probs have eased.

I was giving them a good watering in final pots before using any calmag. After the stretch I guess the Ca was getting low and when they needed it most (early budding) it wasn’t there.

Honna have to run calmag now all the way from seed to harvest now.

Although it’s nice being able to fix a problem as easy as adding more lol

sweettooth said:

A few chaps have touched on it already. You have virtually NO IR coming off those leds so your ambient air temps have to be nearer 30 degrees so you leaf surface temperature is what it should. LST will be about 5 or so degrees higher than your air temps under HID lighting. Get your temps up and you'll see virtually all deficiencies dissappear. I run my full led grow between 30 and 32 degrees Celsius. 86 to 90 Fahrenheit for other people

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I run a small LED company called LEON LED. Too low temperatures is normally the main deficiency I see on consultations... that and too little CO2.

Nutty sKunK said:

Since I’ve upped the calmag the probs have eased.

I was giving them a good watering in final pots before using any calmag. After the stretch I guess the Ca was getting low and when they needed it most (early budding) it wasn’t there.

Honna have to run calmag now all the way from seed to harvest now.

Although it’s nice being able to fix a problem as easy as adding more lol

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Like I said previously I have issues with Ca almost instantly once I begin feeding regardless of lighting lol.

now that could be because my nutrients are lacking some? Dutch pro Soft water Grow A/B or it could be because I don’t plough them with high EC’s throughout the grow.

jondamon said:

Like I said previously I have issues with Ca almost instantly once I begin feeding regardless of lighting lol.

now that could be because my nutrients are lacking some? Dutch pro Soft water Grow A/B or it could be because I don’t plough them with high EC’s throughout the grow.

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Aye probs a case of low feed so not as much Ca.

You tried biobizz calmag? It’s organic and has no N in it which helps a bunch when using other feeds/in flower

Nutty sKunK said:

Aye probs a case of low feed so not as much Ca.

You tried biobizz calmag? It’s organic and has no N in it which helps a bunch when using other feeds/in flower

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No I’ve been using MagneCal by plant magic which does consist of additional N along with Fe.

I used to use Mono Ca and Mono Mg from Canna for a long time as I used to increase Ca heavily during stretch etc.

my nutrients though now I feel are pretty dialed In and this is how my plants end up looking at harvest time.

Lovely and green and almost 100% healthy leaves.

The pictures below were being fed less than 1.0EC most of the grow.

jondamon said:

No I’ve been using MagneCal by plant magic which does consist of additional N along with Fe.

I used to use Mono Ca and Mono Mg from Canna for a long time as I used to increase Ca heavily during stretch etc.

my nutrients though now I feel are pretty dialed In and this is how my plants end up looking at harvest time.

Lovely and green and almost 100% healthy leaves.

The pictures below were being fed less than 1.0EC most of the grow.
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Ah I used to use that one too. Only reason I stopped is to make it 100% organic and the fact I couldn’t add any grow feed until the plants were more established.

Now I can give them 0.5ml of PLant magic Oldtimers at around the 2-3 week mark (autoflowers)

Nutty sKunK said:

Ah I used to use that one too. Only reason I stopped is to make it 100% organic and the fact I couldn’t add any grow feed until the plants were more established.

Now I can give them 0.5ml of PLant magic Oldtimers at around the 2-3 week mark (autoflowers)

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I don’t fuck about with autos.

I also don’t have a set time to give anything tbh it’s all about watching for plant responses etc.

I have my additional 0.2 calmag that I add and then if I find they need more I increase another 0.2 calmag etc.

I’m always airing on the side of just providing enough nutrition that way if I need anything extra it’s usually easy to see.