bokedoki
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Hate to cross thread but nobody is looking at my post... it's sick clones and seedlings post. Please help! I posted pics. https://www.rollitup.org/t/sick-clones-and-seedlings.871081/
need help asap
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phil k
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not deficeny at all
jesus christ I'm so sick of hearing that.. the plants so young and your feeding it .. how the hell is it going to be deficient PO-boy? sorry i don't mean to sound like a ss but how do u get deficiency from a salt burning .. chemical burnt plant? all of which are showing.... the leaves edges are curling in from salt building up the lower leaves are fried because i assume he has never or rarely feeds CLEAN FRESH water the he himself would drink.. but his leaves are also saging from the soil being to moist along with all of that.. the plants clearly showing it..
ANYWAY ...your going through a few things.. but first clarify for me are you using roots organic soil and fox farm grow micro bloom? or are you using the roots organic NUTRIENTS along with fox farm nutrients?
jesus christ I'm so sick of hearing that.. the plants so young and your feeding it .. how the hell is it going to be deficient PO-boy? sorry i don't mean to sound like a ss but how do u get deficiency from a salt burning .. chemical burnt plant? all of which are showing.... the leaves edges are curling in from salt building up the lower leaves are fried because i assume he has never or rarely feeds CLEAN FRESH water the he himself would drink.. but his leaves are also saging from the soil being to moist along with all of that.. the plants clearly showing it..
ANYWAY ...your going through a few things.. but first clarify for me are you using roots organic soil and fox farm grow micro bloom? or are you using the roots organic NUTRIENTS along with fox farm nutrients?
phil k
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also how often are you feeding your feed schedule? once a week twice a week .. every water?
how often are you feeding your plant clean water you yourself would drink?
bokedoki
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I try to give them water that I would drink every 2nd or 3rd watering . Roots budda grow. Sun shine pro mix. I have fox farms grow big. And tiger bloom for flower because I ran out of big bloom. I gave them some canna Vega I had left over because it had high levels of N....
phil k
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alright well so first thing get one grow line and stick with it. SOME grow lines when mixed together can create super salt build up and fry your plants. especially when your mixing organics and inorganics and shit.. honestly i always suggest general hydro if your hell bent on chemicals.. they are the cheapest and best IMOP...
so you say every second or third water your feeding fresh water that has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL other than ph up or down in it correct?
so break down a week for me say your feed day is monday lay out the rest of the week for me up to next monday what you normaly would do.. if its nothing say tuesday nothing.. just give me every day.. and if you feed or not and what your feeding.
Darth Vapour
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Sorry Phil but from what i am seeing its not burnt WTF ??? its appears to be yellowing would you not agree ??? and what causes yellowing .....
Over watering ??
PH
not enough Nitrogen .
Insects ???
not enough aeration on soil
It sickens you with people feeding plants at such a early age ??? him actually i have seen test after tests from right from germination in controlled groups and believe it or not them new seeds grown plants given nutrients were out growing the non early fed seedlings and were way healthier
so with all other BS set aside
Op looks to me your soil is to wet and compact ,, if you can afford i suggest you go out and buy a bag of EWC,
Earth worm casting and a bag of seedling start mix MG mix it together at 50 / 50 and only water feed for couple weeks allowing plants to fix it self
carefully dig out them plants and carefully re transplant and back off watering pending on on amount of power you use water every 5 - 7 days and not water to run off you need more aeration in your soil so roots can breath your choking them out
bokedoki
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Monday feed Tuesday nothing wendsday nothing. Thursday if they are dry I'll Give them Regular water... I know my house water pH is always 7 so I give them the regular water. My Flowering room same... all is going great in there... Friday nothing unless I didnt watered them thurs. Saturday nothing. Sunday nothing. The most ill feed is 2 times a week. But it depends on the strain.... I know my widow's are a lot more sensitive then bubbas and ogs
phil k
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no i don't agree first off the young plants are so young theres no way in hell they are having efficiency issues its not happening bottom line.. they actually in some cases look light the light was too close. and bleached the seedling ones.. the medium sized ones are still not having deficiency.. the leafe culling thats occurring is from salt build up see the tips on the edges all around the leafe.. when that happens yes i will agree the plants can and will go into a lock out which can cause the yellowing due to slowing the uptake.. but deficiency isn't the issue.. no ones plants will burn when the ph is correct and the feed isn't being over fed. ..Either the ph isn't being properly monitored.. or he's overfeeding and creating salt build up.
How are you checking your ph and are you checking it EVERY single time you mix and water?
How are you checking your ph and are you checking it EVERY single time you mix and water?
phil k
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OR the mixing of all the chemical lines he's using could also be creating the salt build up and lock out.. . I do however agree with Humboldt 707 he said in the post that it looks like lock out.. which is created when the salts and shit get too high and aren't flushed properly.
bokedoki
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I'm not checking it every time because I know it's always 7.... I won't bother checking pH because promix is basically soil.... I NEVER had a pH problem in soil and my other girls have always been fine.... I'm thinking the soil they were in for 4 or 5 days was too hot??? They were healthy as hell before I put them in there.... started them in coco pellets.... I guess I will wait for soil to dry out and flush.... I'm not transplanting for a 3rd time I don't want to put forward further damage.... theyve been in the promix a few days.... I also put up my 600w higher just in case...
phil k
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id check your ph... honestly but ...promix doesnt carry enough of a charge to burn them... did you have them in something else prior other than promix or did you mix something into the promix?
I've grown in promix for years... i can absolutely testify if your ph is off your going to have issues and every time your ppm level rises your ph changes.. but ill let someone else chime in on the ph thing cause everyone has their own opions.. i know i properly ph balance my water to 6.5 ... oxygenate it and never have a issue ever... however in the past i would have issues when the water ph was above the 7.0 range and in the 6.0 range when in promix.
I've grown in promix for years... i can absolutely testify if your ph is off your going to have issues and every time your ppm level rises your ph changes.. but ill let someone else chime in on the ph thing cause everyone has their own opions.. i know i properly ph balance my water to 6.5 ... oxygenate it and never have a issue ever... however in the past i would have issues when the water ph was above the 7.0 range and in the 6.0 range when in promix.
Darth Vapour
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ppm rises ph lowers and vice versa the yellowing is over watering , or ph issues are just the most common to cause it who cares if your water ph is 7 thats good you want to know what ph is after you mixed your nutrient it can easily drop 5.8 to 6.0 causing you the issue
rob333
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there small u tranplanted them into a pro mix then feed them nutes+ transplant shock hope that helps u out good luck
rob333
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take a pick at which one would do more damage
bokedoki
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After I mix my pH is 7. I have tested mixed and unmixed. I mix the least amount of nutes possible. I mix in a 5 gallon water Container. Always using a quarter of the recommended dose. My girls in flower are fine..... the other ones were healthy before the transplant to shit soil.... hopefully they can rebound... I'm waiting for the pots to dry out for the flush... don't want to drown them and do further damage
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