Fractured but whole
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why I asked what type of heater it is, old heaters use a flue that drafts the monoxide out, a clog would cause a back up. a new furnace has safety measures to prevent that.
NEED HELP Furnace in the same room as Your plants?
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Smoke2much4good
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There real light every time I water very dry I definitely know my wet to dry cycle and when to water I wish it was that easy
Smoke2much4good
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I have a carbon monoxide alarm in there it's reading 0 every time I use it
Smoke2much4good
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I have a carbon monoxide tester reading 0 every time I test it .. the humidity is staying from 44 - 48% I have literally everything perfect for these to grow
Smoke2much4good
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Yeah the furnace is literally brand new out of the box
Fractured but whole
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new furnaces have so many safety measures, It would have to have a pilot light, which no new ones do. and it would have to have a cracked heat exchange, which is highly unlikely and would only leak when being used.Yeah the furnace is literally brand new out of the box
eastcoastled
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New building new water source? You test the water? Isn't there a lot of bad/polluted water in Michigan? Only thing I didn't see mentioned. Only other thought is sometimes they don't come back from the original damage so easily, especially in soil. Always thought soil was harder to repair
Smoke2much4good
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When i took 4 plants home all different kinds to make sure it had nothing to do with the strains they all recovered in a week or 2 and are lush and green and healthy as can be and I actually bring the exact same water and nutrients from this grow to use because I was never really set up to grow at my house just wanted a different atmosphere to see if it changed anything and it did there's some in the air that's being off gasses I just don't know what
HydroRed
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Sounds like you have different ceilings than you did in your home grow. How close are the lights to the plants? Also, whats the deal on the other questions I asked? Theres a reason I asked them. We can sit here all day guessing YOUR issue without any details to the questions we ask.
I asked if the drains in the floor have water in them because if they dont, sewer gasses can pass and fill the room.
I asked if the room was painted with something like "Killz" which can give off fumes for weeks after painted.
Hence the question "do you smell any funny smells in the grow area".
Is there anything on the leaves that you can see (debris,particles,dust etc) from the 15 fans you now have in there blowing the undisturbed auto parts store insulation around all over your plants.
If you have a monoxide tester than I dont see why you would have even figured the furnace in the first place?
Dr. Who
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What is the RH there, and what was it at the old place?
Temps? Of both...
What soil? Did that change?
What nutes?
How much?
Supplements?
What water?
Looks locky to me..... RH causing increase in up-take? Looks P heavy...... Ca def. Micro's coming in to def. Keeps me thinking pH issue but, need answers to my questions..Could be a package deal.
What kind of efficiency on the furnace? 95%? That is a low RH heat source.
Temps are noted for this building.
I would like to know the canopy temp.
Mid plant temps.
Pot temp.
Do the pots/plants sit on an insulator or strait on the floor?
Temps? Of both...
What soil? Did that change?
What nutes?
How much?
Supplements?
What water?
Looks locky to me..... RH causing increase in up-take? Looks P heavy...... Ca def. Micro's coming in to def. Keeps me thinking pH issue but, need answers to my questions..Could be a package deal.
What kind of efficiency on the furnace? 95%? That is a low RH heat source.
Temps are noted for this building.
I would like to know the canopy temp.
Mid plant temps.
Pot temp.
Do the pots/plants sit on an insulator or strait on the floor?
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Uncle Reefer
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My impression is a root pathogen.
stoned-monkey
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I assume you gave a very good cleaning to walls floors ceiling any and all store fixtures like lights sinks shelves pipes etc. Also know many places spray for pest, don't know how harmful that is to plants. I would try to cover that insulation just for the sake it was never meant for that much airflow and has had years of collecting crap. Would like to hear the answers to @HydroRed questions.
kingtitan
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I am still leaning towards something gassing in the air. You said Auto motive shop, If its anything like any of the several places my relatives own that could be the culprit. These places have their own distinct odor.
I would start adding carbon filters on intakes for starters, air ducts need to be scrubbed as well or run brand new ducting to the grow space. Invest in a good air purifier if you are $invested in this. If possible to have this placed scrubbed down by a cleaning company even better, that is if you can move the setup out for a bit...
I would start adding carbon filters on intakes for starters, air ducts need to be scrubbed as well or run brand new ducting to the grow space. Invest in a good air purifier if you are $invested in this. If possible to have this placed scrubbed down by a cleaning company even better, that is if you can move the setup out for a bit...
Smoke2much4good
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Would carbon filters be the same as a air purifier ?? I have 4 huge ones that were ready for the flower room if I ever get that far not looking good right now but I could put them in the veg to see if it help if it even is anything like a air purifier or should I just get a air purifier .. or ozone generator air purifier combo... ?
Smoke2much4good
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Sorry I didn't reply I appreciate you trying to help! I thought maybe the furnace even tho I havea carbon minoxide tester because I figured it could maybe it could be off gassing something else okther than that ethylene or sulfer dioxide honestly I'm not to sure and willing to try anything .. the lights are approx 3 - 4 ft or so from the plants top of the canopy about 80 give or take .. honestly I'm not sure if the sewer drains have water in them should I literally unscrew them and look or is that not sufficient enough to tell if they do.. no hasn't been painted as I know of and I've had the building for at least 7 months and its all brick besides like I said the ceiling is like rafters and insulation (how i would describe it) and half of one of the walls is brick and insulation like half wasy up the wall youll knoe what i mean you can see it i took some pictures today and have some old ones of it im going to post of the room walls furnace and the insulation ceiling im talking about.. I mean there a little dust / debris here and there on the leaves not much I would say average even tho I know there shouldn't be none at all.. most of the pictures are older when there were no plants in the room but actually better so you can actually see what the room itself looks like.. the last 2 pictures are the weird half brick wall and half insulation wall which I have panda plastic covering where the brick is .. also would carbon filters filter out any of this whafever the problem is or air purifier and aren't them two pretty much the same thing?
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Dr. Who
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The thing with anything in the air.
Is directly related to the cf of space available and how fast that air is turned over. Air quality is generally measured in ppbv or parts per billion by volume, or parts per trillion (million million) by volume (pptv). Pollutant concentrations are also measured by the weight of pollutant within a standard volume of air, for example microgrammes per cubic metre (µgm-3) or milligrammes per cubic metre (mgm-3).
In considering the buildings use before you. How clean is the floor? Has the "spilled" hydrocarbons been cleaned out of it? Someone asked, "Do you "smell" anything when you first enter the space?"
Well, do you?
How much air is turned over and how fast?
3-4 ft of space between the canopy and the light is a bit much but, not the cause of your problem... I would go nearer 2.5 as you have plenty of space for the heat to rise. - Why I ask for canopy temps and bellow. I'm trying to get a handle on your total environment conditions. AND RH is a very important part of that picture......
Then the feeding questions round out the story, along with the media used, nutrients, amounts of and water source.
Answer these questions, and the earlier ones I asked and we may get somewhere faster!
Is directly related to the cf of space available and how fast that air is turned over. Air quality is generally measured in ppbv or parts per billion by volume, or parts per trillion (million million) by volume (pptv). Pollutant concentrations are also measured by the weight of pollutant within a standard volume of air, for example microgrammes per cubic metre (µgm-3) or milligrammes per cubic metre (mgm-3).
In considering the buildings use before you. How clean is the floor? Has the "spilled" hydrocarbons been cleaned out of it? Someone asked, "Do you "smell" anything when you first enter the space?"
Well, do you?
How much air is turned over and how fast?
3-4 ft of space between the canopy and the light is a bit much but, not the cause of your problem... I would go nearer 2.5 as you have plenty of space for the heat to rise. - Why I ask for canopy temps and bellow. I'm trying to get a handle on your total environment conditions. AND RH is a very important part of that picture......
Then the feeding questions round out the story, along with the media used, nutrients, amounts of and water source.
Answer these questions, and the earlier ones I asked and we may get somewhere faster!
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Lordhooha
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The DR is in!
legalcanada
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what type of scope did you use? it does sound like russet/broad mites. i'd suggest 100x scope.