need help picking 4 strains for my grow

whiteberry, opium, satori, power plant

amazing replies so far!
keep them coming!!
anyone have experience growing jack the ripper??

and if i cant get my hands on BLACK WIDOW by mr nice what other White widow would u guys recomend?
anyone else make a good white widow?

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Seedsman's White Widow is supose to be exceptional, a more sativa high than Black Widow. I'm growing one now and will grow Black Widow some day as well.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/seedsman-seeds/seedsman-seeds-regular/seedsman-seeds-white-widow-seeds/prod_313.html

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Hobbes said:

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Seedsman's White Widow is supose to be exceptional, a more sativa high than Black Widow. I'm growing one now and will grow Black Widow some day as well.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/seedsman-seeds/seedsman-seeds-regular/seedsman-seeds-white-widow-seeds/prod_313.html

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thanks bro i will be checking them out,

so has anyone grown jack the ripper?? or smoked it?? it looks really nice but i cant just go by the breeders description

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Freddie I'm a few months away from doing my own review but those I've read around the net - from forums, not breeders or magazines, say that it's like the breeder's descriptions. The Green Avengers are medical strain breeders, they breed for potency, taste and consistent quality.

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SuperRY311 grew out JTR and filed this report.

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Breeder: Subcool/TGA
Strain: Jack The Ripper (JTR)
Lineage if known: JCxSQ
Grower: SuperRY311
Judge: RY
Type (sativa/indica ratio): 80/20

EYE APPEAL : <9> Density Nice dense big buds.
Smell: <10> Aroma of lemon so powerful it burns the nose.
COMMENTS: You can smell an open jar from the other side of the room. Reeks of lemon ammonia.

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SMOKE REPORT

Potency: <9> Heavy Hitter
Taste: <8.5> Lemon zest
Smoothness: <7> (1 = harsh 10 = smooth) Can be harsh at times, but no complaints
Indica Influence: Mild body high
Sativa Influence: <very strong> Heavy head high
Effect Onset: <1> (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper) Felt hard after first hit
Duration: <solid 2 hours> (In hours) Very powerful for long time before slowly fading
Tolerance Buildup: <unknown> (1 = slow 10 = fast)
Overall Satisfaction: <9> Very pleased

COMMENTS: Big yielder, Amazing resin. Knock-out stone.

High Description: Powerful high, recommended as a nighttime smoke.
Smell: Thick lemon scented smoke.
Medical Effects: Pain/Headache reliever. Makes you forget about pains
Medicinal Strength: <8>
KEEPER?: <YES>

FINAL COMMENTS: Great strain with an amazing amount of resin. This big yielder has found a permanent place in my garden. Enjoyed by everyone as a knock-out nighttime smoke. JTR should come with a potency disclaimer warning about driving or operating heavy machinery.

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Go for Magus Genetics' Warlock. Growing a few right now.

Description from the Cannabible by Jason King:



Supposed to finish in about 55 days. So far they're not very demanding in terms of nutes, though they are the biggest, sturdiest plants in my grow

bubble gum from NA, cheap, looks good smells good(there is a feno that smell like dog shit), good production, tastes like bubble gum, pluse if you going to buy sub cool and doggie nutz, and they dont work well u'll be pissed, something like over 200 for 10 seeds= steve O smoking crack on fire

Hobbes said:

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Seedsman's White Widow is supose to be exceptional, a more sativa high than Black Widow. I'm growing one now and will grow Black Widow some day as well.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/seedsman-seeds/seedsman-seeds-regular/seedsman-seeds-white-widow-seeds/prod_313.html

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I have grown it and I would not call it exceptional though I would call it very good. I would also say it is a very good value for one’s dollar. It does top most other White Widow/Black Widow knockoffs, at least all that I have tried, especially if someone does like a slight bit more of a sativa effect than other more indica based White Widow/Black Widow knockoffs give.
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For someone on less than a large budget or who is new to growing or maybe has done a bagseed run or two and now wants to try real breeder genetics but still does not want to risk a great deal until they have more confidence it would be a perfect choice.

Unless they are utterly clueless and do most everything wrong they will not in the end be disappointed with their purchase.
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Seedsman Seeds White Widow is a very good value for your dollar.

hobbes quote:The Green Avengers are medical strain breeders, they breed for potency, taste and consistent quality.
ive read that a lot were you say they are medical strain breeders,what exactly does that mean,are they doing scinetific research on medical paitence and gathering the results then stableizeing the genetics with respect to the research.or is it just a generic term thrown around.
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"ive read that a lot were you say they are medical strain breeders,what exactly does that mean,are they doing scinetific research on medical paitence and gathering the results then stableizeing the genetics with respect to the research.or is it just a generic term thrown around."

From what I understand: medical breeders look for strains that have certain effects - increasing appetite for chemo patients for example, or refining strains that reduce seizures - and breed these strains to maximize these effects. By picking certain phenos in breeding and such, breeder stuff.

Every seed bank description for Subcool's strains have the medical effects that they will produce - some not described really well but the attempt is there. I believe that TGA has a close connection to the medical marijuana community, free seeds and such. I don't know what, if any, research they do into the effects of their strains, but the feedback around the forums is that the strains work as advertised.

While Mr Nice has one of the best medical strains, Medicine Man, I would not consider him to be a medical breeder. This is one strain out of many in his line up, there is no trend towards medical effects being his first consideration in breeding. My definition of a medical breeder would be that their strains are for everybody but they breed for medical effect first.

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Hobbes said:

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"ive read that a lot were you say they are medical strain breeders,what exactly does that mean,are they doing scinetific research on medical paitence and gathering the results then stableizeing the genetics with respect to the research.or is it just a generic term thrown around."

From what I understand: medical breeders look for strains that have certain effects - increasing appetite for chemo patients for example, or refining strains that reduce seizures - and breed these strains to maximize these effects. By picking certain phenos in breeding and such, breeder stuff.

Every seed bank description for Subcool's strains have the medical effects that they will produce - some not described really well but the attempt is there. I believe that TGA has a close connection to the medical marijuana community, free seeds and such. I don't know what, if any, research they do into the effects of their strains, but the feedback around the forums is that the strains work as advertised.

While Mr Nice has one of the best medical strains, Medicine Man, I would not consider him to be a medical breeder. This is one strain out of many in his line up, there is no trend towards medical effects being his first consideration in breeding. My definition of a medical breeder would be that their strains are for everybody but they breed for medical effect first.

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i think subcool rights his own discripyions for the seed banks,so that is not the gospel.And i have never seen any documantation about strains tested for their medical use by the avengers,ive actually read were he said he had a strain specific for every medical application.So is space queen and jack the ripper and urkle miracle workers.I think what your implying can be said about every kind of weed out their,but i think their are breeders who actually have stablised medical strains,but i dont include subcool in that group.i been too many places to buy into these inflated claims.i dont see him as the medical pot guru that you seem to think he is,but then again i dont believe a fraction of the seed peoples claims,but some breeders i have much respect for.and jack the ripper has many phenoes that can give you paranoia so noy sure were that fits your medical needs,and it is highly unstable.

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"can be said about every kind of weed out their,"

Absolutely, it's just a matter of classifying the strains according to disorder and rating their effects. Or having the breeders list effects in their ads.

All of the members of TGA are thought of very highly in the medical marijuana community.

Treating Yourself :

"Right now the Medical community is far too fractured and has too many profiteering hangers-on with questionable dedication to the real suffering patients out here....but people like Subcool, MzJill, TGA, Marco, and the other true medical seedbanks/breeders have more than demonstrated their compassion and their patience with the inevitable imperfections that one must overcome to make these things possible."

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Green Passion: TGA Has "donated close to 300 packs of this cross to the medical community"

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Celeb Stoner: From Trainwreck to Chernobyl

"Hats off to Subcool for helping the medical & cannabis community in so many ways. He, along with TGA are one of the few people who are not looking to get rich, but rather share the love. TGA receives the HIGHEST (pun intended) respect from me. Thanks to Subcool and TGA."

http://www.celebstoner.com/200904041866/blogs/subcool/from-trainwreck-to-cherobyl.html .

all of these replies are absolutely great!
just the info i was looking for!!

so at the moment im thinking of getting

Dj shorts Blueberry or shud i get Dj shorts True Blueberry?
its like 10$ extra for the pack,

and im also thinking of getting White widow,
hopefully i can get the original Black Widow but if not then Seedsman seems good and cheap,

also i was thinking of getting BC GOD.
heard some mixed things about this strain,

and still havent decided on the 4th strain,
i want to pick a strain that will flower in 8 weeks,

the thing is that i dont want to get 4 strains that are similar,
i want to be to have variety of some killer shit,

like i said i smoke everyday all day. like 8-10 blunts a day.
almost an oz per day sometimes, of OG kush at the moment,
so i really need somthing that will knock me on my ass!!
cause that OG kush just isnt cutting it for me anymore!


i need help chosing the 4th strain
and still pretty unsure about the other 3

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1. Blueberry
2. White widow
3. BC GOD Bud
4. ?

" i really need somthing that will knock me on my ass"

Sativas: 8 or 9 weeks flower.
4. Jack The Ripper - Subcool (TGA)
4. AK47 - Serious
4. NL99 (Northern Lights x Cinderella 99) - Joey Weed
4. F13 - DJ Short

Indica:
4. Endless Sky - Dr Greenthumb (6 weeks)
4. Medicine Man - Mr Nice (White Rhino - Greenhouse)
4. White Russian - Serious Seeds
4. Chernobyl - Subcool (TGA)

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Hobbes said:

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"can be said about every kind of weed out their,"

Absolutely, it's just a matter of classifying the strains according to disorder and rating their effects. Or having the breeders list effects in their ads.

All of the members of TGA are thought of very highly in the medical marijuana community.

Treating Yourself :

"Right now the Medical community is far too fractured and has too many profiteering hangers-on with questionable dedication to the real suffering patients out here....but people like Subcool, MzJill, TGA, Marco, and the other true medical seedbanks/breeders have more than demonstrated their compassion and their patience with the inevitable imperfections that one must overcome to make these things possible."

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Green Passion: TGA Has "donated close to 300 packs of this cross to the medical community"

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Celeb Stoner: From Trainwreck to Chernobyl

"Hats off to Subcool for helping the medical & cannabis community in so many ways. He, along with TGA are one of the few people who are not looking to get rich, but rather share the love. TGA receives the HIGHEST (pun intended) respect from me. Thanks to Subcool and TGA."

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who are the medical community you speak of,and if you believe subcool doesnt want to get rich,ive got land for sale on the muskeg of canada,it was his stated goal when he was in his 20,s.so im not sure why you think hes not into it for the money.i threw away more then 300 packs of seeds i made.heck i through away about 600,i made more seeds thats almost one seeded outdoor plant.but i will say this hobbes you should get a comisson for all the people you turned on to subcool. i just dont think taking urkle and crossing it with space queen is breeding,ot takeing 10 space queen seeds to form jilly bean are what ever it is called is breeding,i think it is seed making,and when you look at his way of makeing strains,how can any one call that stableizeing medical strains.and every breeder gets some hack to send in quotes,its been happening in the seed game for years.so like i say i believe a tenth of what is said.

some interesting stuff in here,
thanks for all the replies,
ok so im pretty sure i am going with DJ shorts TRUE blueberry,
i asked a guy that was growing True Blueberry why he chose that over the original Blueberry,
and he said that True bluberry supposedly have better genetics,
it would yield more and have a more berry taste to it,
so yeah DJ Shorts TRUe blueberry is a must,

and then i am also pretty sure im getting White Widow Frome serious seeds,
is that the best white widow besides MR nice Black Widow wich is the original but its sold out,
if they dont restock with black widow before the end of september then i think im going with serious seeds,


and for the 3rd strain i want some BC GOD Bud.
i heard its some killer shit and looks and smells amazing,
i heard its a really good yielder.
so ill give that a try,


and for the 4th strain im still undecided,
i want somthing that isnt like the other 3 strains,
i want to be able to smoke different types of weeds,
i want something that will help me with my music,
i make music so i need something that will give me a creative edge,
kinda hyper feeling,
so what strains do u recoemnd???
i appreciate it everyone!

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Trapper I acknowledge all that you have said and understand you.

If not the strains from breeders that I grow and those I have confidence in through research who would you suggest I recommend?

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trapper said:

you can check out the breeders like mr.nice,dj short,chimera,paradice seeds,serious seeds,then the the ones i dont clasify as breeders but seed makers like willy jack,tga,joeyweed,theese just take name strains and match them with name strains.so it depends you want.

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i agree with this statement

hey trapper have you ever heard of outlaw genetics? hes on the breedbay and some of his stuff looks really good. ill give you a link. he just got some stock up, so if your interested grab some because it goes quick and doesnt come back quick cause i dont think outlaw has a huge grow to produce alot.

OUtlaw genetics

i wanna try magic merlin or the dojaberry.

Look no further. Constantly in high demand at the local shops in Amsterdam. Barney's LSD.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/barneys-farm-seeds/barneys-farm-feminized-seeds/barneys-farm-lsd-feminized/prod_1159.html