///need help please!

cockbag123

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btw guys since i just got my seeds, how should i best take care of my seedlings? i know already that to germ them i need to put them in moist paper towels or similar in a warm dark place correct? should i mist a new seedling? how wet should the soil be upon planting? any tips greatly appreciated!
 

dura72

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when i pop beans, i use the paper towel method. after theyve popped and are showing around half an inch of tap root i consider them ready to go into the pot. if its a soil grow i will have the pots sitting with the soil and perlite in them, this will be a potting soil with no nutes, the mix will be 75% soil and 25% perlite well mixed trogether, then i'll give them a good watering and let it sit overnite till it drains, preferably sumwhere reasonably warm so that the soil temperature is at least room temp. then poke a wee hole with a pen, gently drop the seed onto it and roll some dirt gently over the hole. dont press down coz that can break the root. then i put it into a propagator and undera cfl, either my 250watt blue spectrum one or my 2x 55 blue, just depends what i pick up first. i spray the inside of the prop hood so that as the light hits it it start heating up and causing high humidity , after the seeds show thru i also spray the seedling/soil as well as the lid. i continue with this routine sumtimes 5 or 6 times a day, until they are on there 3 set of true leaves ,maybe 2 or 3 inches tall, then i pop the prop hood off, give them another cpl of days and then its under the normal light, in my case thats a 400 hps dual spectrum at the moment. the soil should be very damp but never soaking wet, no exact way to explain this is just trial and error until you suss it out. hope that helps mate.
 

cockbag123

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it helps indeed buddy thanks! i dont have any cfls so ima whack them straight under the 250w and i dont have a propogator but the humidity in the grow room is at 95% anyway lol prob dont even need to spray them but i will. just waiting for the 250 to arrive and then away we goo :)
 

dura72

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it helps indeed buddy thanks! i dont have any cfls so ima whack them straight under the 250w and i dont have a propogator but the humidity in the grow room is at 95% anyway lol prob dont even need to spray them but i will. just waiting for the 250 to arrive and then away we goo :)
cover the top of your pot with cling film or chop a coke bottle in half and put it over the seedling, makes a diy prop. u really want humidity very high
 

dura72

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when the plant reaches a certain age you chop the very top shoot off, it cause the plant to put two new shoots out in stead of one, this give u two main colas, u can repeat this once the new growth has come again thereby givin u four, these colas are never as big as the original single would be but collectively they often exceed the weight, its handy to do as it keeps your plant shorter and it allows more light to the new growth. theres full threads in here that'll explain it blow by blow. ive done it a few times its quite good.heres a link that''ll tell u what you need to know.-https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get.html?highlight=uncle+bens+topping
 

cockbag123

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ok lights arrive on wednsday so i decided to start the germing process today already i wet 4 papers towells then rung them out enough so they are just moist/damp put the sees in the middle and folded the sides in over them sound ok? i can post a pic if needs be!
 

dura72

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ok lights arrive on wednsday so i decided to start the germing process today already i wet 4 papers towells then rung them out enough so they are just moist/damp put the seeds in the middle and folded the sides in over them sound ok? i can post a pic if needs be!
sounds fine, put them one a plate, pop a cup over them aswell. this keeps light out(bad) and it keeps heat in(good), then pop them sumwhere warm( i use the top of my tv( well i did until i bought a flat screen!)). check them every 12 hours and give them a water spray to keep them damp( but not soaking).
 

cockbag123

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ive got them in a cabinet right over a radiator hehe so its actually luckily an ideal spot. i put them on a plate and put a mug over them now though thnx :)
 

cockbag123

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hey what the ideal ph for growing? i just tested (my first baby popped his cherry in th cabinet last night ALREADY and lights havent arrived but shes snuggled up in a pot on the indow sil with a cling film blanket until they come lol) my soil and it seems to be about 7.5 - 8 .. thats prob bad isnt it?
 

dura72

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pH is the measure of how basic or acidic a solution is. The pH of a substance is measured in a numerical fashion using a scale of 1 through 14. A solution with a pH higher than 7.0 is considered to be basic and is called a base (or alkaline). A solution with a pH less than 7.0 is considered to be acidic and is called an acid. The strength of an acid or base can be either weak or strong. The stronger an acid or base, the closer the solution is to its respective number on the pH scale (basic being 15 and acid being 1). The weaker a solution or base, the closer its pH value is to a neutral rating (neutral being 7). Every full point change in pH signifies a 10 fold increase or decrease in acidity or alkalinity. For example, water with a pH of 6.0 is 10 times more acidic than water with a pH of 7.0, while water with a pH of 5.0 is 100 times more acidic than water with a pH of 7.0.

Here are some examples of acids and bases and their respective pH ratings.
-.2 Battery Acid
1.2 Gastric fluid
2.2 Lemon juice
3.6 Orange juice
4.4 Beer
5.6 Pure Rain
6.6 Milk
7.0 Distilled water (H<sub>2</sub>O)
8.0 Seawater
9.2 Baking soda (NaHCO<sub>3</sub>)
10.6 Milk of Magnesia (Mg(OH)<sub>2</sub>)
11.4 Household ammonia (NH<sub>3</sub>)
12.8 Household bleach (NaClO)
13.6 Household lye (NaOH)

What is PH? pt. 2

pH is defined in chemistry in several ways. An acid is sometimes defined as a solution with the potential to donate a Hydrogen ion (H<sup>+</sup>, also called a proton), or to accept a Hydroxide Ion (OH<sup>-</sup>) from a base. A base on the other hand is sometimes defined as a solution with ability to donate a Hydroxide Ion, or... you've guessed it, accept a Hydrogen ion. Low pH corresponds to a high hydrogen ion concentration and vice versa, while a high pH corresponds to a high Hydroxide ion concentration and vice versa.

Why is pH important when growing a plant?

Any substance that is going to be used to support any form of life has to fall within a certain range on the pH scale. The range may vary from organism to organism. Marijuana is no different. The soil, nutrient solutions and water all need to be monitored and adjusted to stay within a specific range, depending on your method of growing. When growing Marijuana in soil, the soil and water supply should stay within the range of 6.5 to 7.0, while in hydroponics the nutrient solution should stay within the range of 5.5 and 6.0.
When a plant's soil or nutrient solution becomes too basic the nutrients become unavailable to be absorbed by the roots. When the soil or nutrient solution becomes too acidic the acid salts will chemically bind together the available nutrients and they will be nonabsorbent by the roots. When this happens the plant will show tell-tale signs of stress. Some novice growers and even a few seasoned growers will falsely think they need to add more nutes or fert, which only compounds the problem by usually causing toxic salt build-up. Toxic salt build-up stops the roots from absorbing water. So remember as a rule of thumb to always test the pH before reducing or increasing a fert or nute dosage!
The pH of your soil or hydroponics setup can be measured with a simple 20$ or 30$ pH Tester, or small one time paper tests. These are highly recommended when growing any plant.

Some things to remember when using an electronic pH tester

1. Clean the probes of the meter after each test and wipe away any corrosion.
2. Pack the soil tightly around the probes.
3. Water soil with distilled or neutral pH water (7.0) before testing.
4. The meters measure the electrical current between two probes and are
designed to work in moist soil. If the soil is dry, the probes do not give
an accurate reading

What causes fluctuations in pH?

When growing in soil any fertilizer you use can cause an excess build up of salts when it decomposes in the soil. This almost always results in a more acidic soil which stunts the plant's growth and causes brown foliage. When using a Hydroponics set-up the nutrient solution can very easily cause a fluctuation in the growing reservoir. Other common reasons as to why soil may become too acidic when doing outdoor grows are rainfall, leaching, organic matter decay and a previous harvest of a high yeild crop in the same soil. In dry climates, such as the desert Southwest US, Spain, Australia, etc., irrigation water is often alkaline with a pH above 7. The water in rainy climates, such as the Pacific Northwest of North America, the UK, Netherlands and Northern Europe, is often acidic with a pH below 6. Lightly sandy soils with little clay and organic matter are quicker too become more acidic. Another common mistake is that a grower will mix his soil unevenly, leading to "hot spots" in the growing medium, so mix all ratios as well as you can.

How do I raise/lower my pH?

A great way to regulate the pH of your soil is to use Dolomite Lime(calcium-magnesium carbonate). While growing Cannabis plants in containers, mix one cup of fine dolomite lime for each cubic foot of soil, then lightly water it. After watering, mix it once more and wait a day or two before checking the pH. While growing in an outdoor garden, follow the dolomite lime manufacturers instructions. Dolomite Lime works well because it has a neutral pH rating of 7.0 and tends to keep the soil a constant pH throughout the entire life cycle of the plant. This is a highly recommended method of regulating your soil pH.
If you find the pH of your soil or Hydroponic reservoir to be too acidic or basic you could add either pH up or pH down. These are chemicals sold at places like Home Depot or any Gardening store. They usually come in one liter bottles and are to be diluted in the water used to water the soil growing plants or the Hydroponic reservoir according to directions on the packaging.

Some examples of Home remedies to raise/lower pH are as follows:
1.Lemon juice. 1/4 tbsp can bring a gallon of tap-water from 7.4 to 6.3.
2.Phosphoric acid. lowers pH and provides Phosphor too!
3.Nitric acid. lowers pH.
4.Hydrochloric acid. strongest way to lower pH
5.Hydrated lime. flush soil with a teaspoon per gallon of water to raise pH.
6.Baking Soda. eats acids to raise pH.
7.Calcium carbonate. raises pH (very strong)
8.Potassium silicate. raises pH.

What are signs of a PH fluctuation in my Cannabis plant?

A Cannabis plant can show signs of a pH flux in several ways. The leaves may begin to turn yellow or brown, dry up and/or shrivel on the sides into a straw like shape. Keep in mind however that other deficiencies and disorders may show the same signs of damage, so don't jump to conclusions until you do some testing and adjusting to your plants and their growing medium.

Some things to remember(I didn't write these ones)

1.Always test the pH of raw water and drainage water with a pH meter.
2.Raw water pH above 6.0 helps keep fertilizer mixes from becoming too acidic.
3.The pH level is much more important in organic soil gardens than in chemical
hydroponic gardens. The pH dictates the environment of bacteria necessary to the
uptake of organic nutrients.
hope that helps, i cut and pasted from sum site i found.
 

cockbag123

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no further questions your honour! :D thin lmon juice is the simplest thing to o if my plants show signs of trouble :P
 

dura72

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i NEVER chech ph, ever. scottish tap water is very soft and ive never had any problems neither has any of my friends.
 

dura72

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usually about 2 or 3, sumtime up to 6 or 7 at the latest. if their not up by then chances are there fucked.
 

cockbag123

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ok thnx got my light and an oscillating fan pretty basic grow but fuckit hopefully i can manage it... ill post pics later and you can tell me if im doomed from the start or not.. probly am but fuckit :D
 

dura72

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dont put your fan on until the seeds have poked thru and knocked the seed case off, the fan drys the area up a bit and at this point you really want humidity. after its about 2" thru the soil then switch it on at its lowest setting.
 
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