hi this is my first time growing and am using cfl and miracle grow 6 months times release am also using bag seeds i decided to post this thread becasue its alot of people trying to grow under no cost or little and then they see that you cant grow with miracle grow or cfl is bullshit...so far its working good am using like a 2 gallon pot i paid 2 bucks for the miracle grow bag dirt was 4 bucks the cfl were some hanging around the house which are 6 13watt and 1 26 watt and i used them for both flowering and veg i know alot of people say you have to use 65k for veg and 27k for flowering but from my plant so far you can use 27k to veg also am using a closet to grow with a fan i started the grow on march 20 which i put the seed in the ground am not using any nutes right now or at all but am making this to help other and get help from people that have used the miracle grow and use cfl and got more ex them me since i know more about hps am posting pics tell me how it looks so far