Need help with locked out.

Hi all

This is my first grow and I am making all the noob mistakes possible.

Back info:
-Three weeks ago I found these had low ph, applied dolomite to bring the PH up.
-A week later I added a tablespoon of kelp to each 5gal pots, also gave a water with with about a 600ppm nuts (this was double what I had been giving them previously). I now realize I should not have started increasing nuts while the ph was still now. I also think I increased to quickly.
-Plants soon started to show signs of to much nitrogen. I stopped feeding for a week, doing small flushes each watering, then started feeding again at about 300ppm. PH was now back in a good range all plants around 6.3ph.
-I think I had been watering to much now trying to flush out the salts, and was seeing lots of drooping.
-After letting the plants dry out nicely, the drooping seemed to be getting better. But I was now noticing a deficiency on the lower leaves and a few of the upper leaves. This deficiency has gotten worse over this last week.
-Today was watering day and I tested the ppm of my run off and it was about double what I was putting in at 600PPM, I then did another flush with plain water in hopes that it would pull more of the salts out. Now I can't water for a few more days while I let the soil dry out again.

Long story short, I have not been as successful with my first indoor grow as I had hoped. Plants are starting to look really bad, with an olive green\yellow color. If I am still locked out should I be doing a foliar feed to get my plants some nutrients? I am hesitant to do anything else without some advice as I don't want to make matters any worse then they already are.

Current Specs:
-5gal pots with sea soil container complete
-Air temp: 26-27
-Soil temp: 20
-Humidity: Day 40-50%, night 50-60% (seems to swing more at night)
-light: 1000W Meijiu (dimmed so canopy is getting just over 600 lux) will slowly increase if I can ever get the plants happy again.
-Nuts: Remo line, using the flower nuts at about 300pm.
-Watering: Usually every day at about 2.4 liters. Last week has been different as plants take two days to dry out after a flush\heavy watering.



Please let me know if you need any more info. Thanks in advance for any help!

Underfed . Increase ya feed

The moment you say you are reading soil ph i cringe
How and with what are you reading it with, leading to the question ...why?

Runoff in soil means nothing, stop stressing over it, focus on what goes in not out


You sound like you have OCD and loved them to death

Give them at least half strength nutes, add calmag, see how they respond

Remember, bad leaves will not heal, watch the new growth

if your ph is stable now then you should probably feed a bit more then 3-600ppm. If they are completely locked out then they would not drink at all.
Just give them a bit more food and call it good.

Hi all

Thanks for all the quick responses.

No I don't have OCD, but I do worry that I am loving them do death .

The Ph meter I am using is the Blue Labs Soil PH meter in this link. https://www.amazon.ca/Bluelab-PENSOILPH-Soil-Tester-Pen/dp/B00CJIDFAS/ref=asc_df_B00CJIDFAS/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292924557768&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5394903435220164587&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001489&hvtargid=pla-492023329642&psc=1

I didn't know that locked out plants wouldn't even drink, that is good to know!

Should I go strait to 600ppm for my next feed or slowly increase? I think 600ppm is about half strength.

i would have no problems giving her 1000ppm or more right away. but if 600 is double your normal diet , then yes go to 800 right away. , do that for 2 waterings and see if that helps.

Thanks you! I will give that a shot.

Hi all

The issue above seemed to be resolved and over the last few weeks I have been feeding to about 800ppm. A few day ago I stared noticing some issues once again. This time it seems to be affecting more new growth and seemed more of a drying of the leaves. I tried increasing to 1000ppm the last few days but that seemed to make matters much worse. So once again I must be doing something wrong. Any idea, should I just lower the feed?

The plants are on day 71 now.








Thanks in advance for any help! Merry Christmas Everyone!

After reading a bit more I was thinking the above issue might be to much Calcium, with new growth affected and burnt curing leaves? I am still running my Mag\Cal at the same ml per gal as my other bloom ferts and wondering if I haven't over done it. Looking at the Remo feed chat I now see it says to cut out the Mag\Cal in week 6 of flower so I am going to try that to see if it helps. I hadn't done that yet as I figured I still have three our four weeks left, but will try it now. Please let me know if you think I am going in the wrong direction here.

Thanks for looking.

To high of Nitrogen levels will cause lockout

Yes , cut out the calmag just to see.
That looks likr it may be bud rot but im not sure....its growing wild as hell. maybe an OD of nitrogen but it dont quite look like it.

Thanks @getogrow and @Herb & Suds

I have will cut out the calmag and see how it goes, the label says it's 3% N same as the bloom nut's . Some of the browning does kind of look like bud rot, but when I get in there with the loop it just looks like the deficencie . Sure hope it's not bud rot

This first growing has proven to be more troublesome then I imagined. Hopefully I can get these ladies across the finish line.

Thanks again for the help!

They make a version of calmag that doesn't contain Nitrogen but myself I use epsom salts

Good luck

I think they are over fed now. I think they were over watered earlier. You'll get the feel for it.