Need help!!!

Rickypsimer · Mar 12, 2020

So I believe my plants are displaying some sort of Cal Mag deficiency I'll have pictures of it later that's 3 gallon fabric pots foxfarm ocean Forest using Myco Plus distilled water and I've got the fox farm nutrient line coming in a 2 by 4 under a t s 600 Mars Hydro and a Chinese Quantum board knock off with the same Spectrum

ebcrew · Mar 12, 2020

All those plants seem ok to me

Calcium and magnesium display differently. It's not usually both Cal and magnesium, usually one or the other. What makes you think it's one of them?

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

Get a bottle of cal-mag and give ur plant 3/4 of the labeled dose next feeding and only that nothing else, and look to see if ur new growth has the deficiency

SolitaryGold · Mar 12, 2020

To be honest the plants look very healthy. Dont think you have much to worry about here. Fox Farm Ocean Forest runs a little hot sometimes out of the bag. (from personal experience). If your not introducing any calmag into your feedings currently, Its probably a good time to introduce a small amount until a deficiency shows. (maybe 2-4 mL per gallon of water)

Its much better to have to little then to much when it comes to nutrients, especially bottled nutrients.

Keep up the good work the plants look great Cheers! :bigjoint:

P.S. If I had one comment of constructive criticism, it would be to watch your temps a bit. 83 F is pretty warm but still ok. 75-79 I would say is optimal depending on the strain. If you havent had any problems yet with the temps you will probably be fine. Try to drop them by a couple degrees tho when your flowering.

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

This is the part where u trip out, and start mixing all these nutrients up trying to help it and fuck up ur grow. Just like everyone else did, I’d just feed it cal-mag . Unless ur bottom leaves start to yellow as sign of low nitrogen, or ur plants start to get a pale look feed em.. always read the plant n youl b fine

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

SolitaryGold said:
To be honest the plants look very healthy. Dont think you have much to worry about here. Fox Farm Ocean Forest runs a little hot sometimes out of the bag. (from personal experience). If your not introducing any calmag into your feedings currently, Its probably a good time to introduce a small amount until a deficiency shows. (maybe 2-4 mL per gallon of water)

Its much better to have to little then to much when it comes to nutrients, especially bottled nutrients.

Keep up the good work the plants look great

Look very closely , as if u were him.. see the magnesium def??

SolitaryGold · Mar 12, 2020

canadiantoker420 said:
Look very closely , as if u were him.. see the magnesium def??

Its hard to tell because his lights are on. Sometimes its pretty easy to get a deficiency confused with the overall light spectrum that you have.
Everything aside its def a good idea to introduce some cal mag slowly.
Plus my eyes are terrible lol
Cheers!

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

Very clear inbetween the crack in the lights, deviding them u can see the magnesium deficiency

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

SolitaryGold said:
Its hard to tell because his lights are on. Sometimes its pretty easy to get a deficiency confused with the overall light spectrum that you have.
Everything aside its def a good idea to introduce some cal mag slowly.
Plus my eyes are terrible lol
Cheers!

Zoom in, inbetween the two lights u can see it real good

SolitaryGold · Mar 12, 2020

canadiantoker420 said:
Zoom in, inbetween the two lights u can see it real good

Yah I can see it now nice catch.
I need glasses i guess

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

It needs 3/4 of a dosage of cal mag preferably advanced nutrients lol the 4-0-0 shit.. calmag xtra

canadiantoker420 · Mar 12, 2020

But new growth is not too bad, maybe even 1/2 dose first

Budzbuddha · Mar 12, 2020

Don’t do anything at this point .... plants are happy in FFOF at this moment. I “ would not “ use fox farms liquid Nutes on this hotter / already charged soil medium. You can FEED your plants by simply top dressing with more FFOF . Shitcan the distilled water , you can use tap ( which has calcium / mag ) but check your regional water source for PPM ( to see where it falls ). FFOF has a PH of 6.3 right from bag , Ph water to 6.5 and you are golden.

FFOF will feed those plants for weeks , up to 6 weeks. But it is also dependent on strain , and how much it pulls from it.
But , simply top dressing more or making a soil drench with FFOF , you can run your plants without “ bottles “.
CALMAG can be a necessary evil at times when running LED GROWS .... which aids in uptake since plants transpire less than hotter light systems like HPS.

FF Nutes are very concentrated ( trio ) and salt up fast with over use. Go by plant , if it’s happy as is , why dump more on top of it ?

SolitaryGold · Mar 12, 2020

Figured I would add this. Dont mind the string the buds are getting super heavy and dense on this leggy (sativa dominant) strain. I have a little bit of yellowing but when my lights are on my plants look straight up yellow.

I was thinking it was a deficiency but it was just the spectrum of my lights.

A B comparison below. Week 6 of flower for this 10-12 week flowering cycle.

SolitaryGold · Mar 12, 2020

Budzbuddha said:
Don’t do anything at this point .... plants are happy in FFOF at this moment. I “ would not “ use fox farms liquid Nutes on this hotter / already charged soil medium. You can FEED your plants by simply top dressing with more FFOF . Shitcan the distilled water , you can use tap ( which has calcium / mag ) but check your regional water source for PPM ( to see where it falls ). FFOF has a PH of 6.3 right from bag , Ph water to 6.5 and you are golden.

FFOF will feed those plants for weeks , up to 6 weeks. But it is also dependent on strain , and how much it pulls from it.
But , simply top dressing more or making a soil drench with FFOF , you can run your plants without “ bottles “.
CALMAG can be a necessary evil at times when running LED GROWS .... which aids in uptake since plants transpire less than hotter light systems like HPS.

FF Nutes are very concentrated ( trio ) and salt up fast with over use. Go by plant , if it’s happy as is , why dump more on top of it ?

I noticed on my first grow that the FF nutes are super concentrated and the salt build up was ridiculous. Also the pH of the water dropped significantly even feeding at half strength.

I have moved completely to organic. Its so much easier to avoid nutrient problems for me now. I like the Ocean Forest soil but your right it can be way to hot out of the bag sometimes. Soil pH needs to be checked consistently.

Budzbuddha · Mar 12, 2020

SolitaryGold said:
I noticed on my first grow that the FF nutes are super concentrated and the salt build up was ridiculous. Also the pH of the water dropped significantly even feeding at half strength.

I have moved completely to organic. Its so much easier to avoid nutrient problems for me now. I like the Ocean Forest soil but your right it can be way to hot out of the bag sometimes. Soil pH needs to be checked consistently.

Yes .... I have ruined many smart pots with that line. Big Bloom is the only organic of the 3. And works pretty well to supplement the already charged FFOF. Tiger bloom is ok for what it is but I have to run lighter than recommendEd . Even their powdered trio of Open sesame / Beastie bloom / Cha Ching can easily be overused. I like open sesame of the 3 ... it does kick things forward , but I stop after 2 applications. Beastie is way hot and can be overused. Cha Ching adds a bit of nitro bump but really have not noticed any to make me buy it again. If you are set on boosters , there are better ones , MOAB / HYDROPLEX / Kool Bloom / Dr. Earth Flower girl / MAXIBLOOM for example.

Rickypsimer · Mar 12, 2020

Hers some pictures from today...

the new growth has a brownish tinge...only in two if the six and it's the two displaying the deficiency or whatever it is..

Rickypsimer · Mar 12, 2020

SolitaryGold said:
Figured I would add this. Dont mind the string the buds are getting super heavy and dense on this leggy (sativa dominant) strain. I have a little bit of yellowing but when my lights are on my plants look straight up yellow.

I was thinking it was a deficiency but it was just the spectrum of my lights.

A B comparison below. Week 6 of flower for this 10-12 week flowering cycle.

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Can you elaborate on how the spectrum could be causing this

SolitaryGold · Mar 12, 2020

Rickypsimer said:
Can you elaborate on how the spectrum could be causing this

The light that I’m using has an odd orange spectrum to it when the light is on it causes both sets of plants to look slightly more yellow plus because of the strain they’re going to have more of a yellow-ish tint to them I’m talking about pictures under natural light the plants look super healthy that’s all I meant

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