Need Some Opinions On Hydroponic Grow...

grkgod

Active Member
Hey forum,

This is my first ever grow and I would like to take it slow and just go with one plant to learn by then Ill boost it up next grow. Just baught an Powergrower Eco, 4ft dark room tent and my friend donated to me a 1000w mh/hps interchangable lightsetup with a xtrsun reflector and ballast...

Now my question is about the lighting, since Im only growing one plant would a 1000w be way overkill, I mean he did hand it over for free could I still use it or is it going to be a problem with plant burn spots and high temps and what not...?
 

makersknob

Active Member
i am not sure you can use a small tent like that for such a hot light sounds dangerous. If you are really only going to grow ONE plant use CFL's. 1000w is SUPER kill on the electricity for 1 stinkin plant. If its male then you really got nothin. Go spend 50 bucks on CFL gear or grow more plants.
 

grkgod

Active Member
i am not sure you can use a small tent like that for such a hot light sounds dangerous. If you are really only going to grow ONE plant use CFL's. 1000w is SUPER kill on the electricity for 1 stinkin plant. If its male then you really got nothin. Go spend 50 bucks on CFL gear or grow more plants.
CFLs huh arent they not as good as a HID light though and anything specifically you would recommend for such a small crop...
 

pinspot

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As long as you can control the temps in the tent, the more light the better. You'll always get tighter, more compact dence bud, and better yeild with the HID unit compaired to floras or cfls. You'll for sure have a higher electric bill with the 1000w. You just have to figure if it's worth the extra $25 $30 bucks. I would think it's a no brainer.
 

grkgod

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  • Highly reflective interior - significant increase in reflectivity for improved lighting performance
  • Thermally protected - tent material reflects 97% of all radiant heat for superior insulation
  • Completely non-toxic - will not react under light and heat, and no off-gassing to harm plants
  • 100% light-proof material - prevent light from escaping or entering for controlled light cycles
  • Moveable roof cross-members - easily adjust lighting and accessories
  • Fast, easy assembly and disassembly - includes carrying bag for portability
  • Adjustable fan and filter attachments - no more clamps or reducers needed!
  • Solid construction - roof cross-members easily support 65 pounds
The Dark Room has all the features you could ask for - and more! Outfit the Dark Room with the ventilation fan, lighting system and growing system of your choice and you will have the brightest, slickest, most affordable grow room available.
The Dark Room is the first grow tent to utilize thermal film on the interior. This film is highly reflective, waterproof, and extremely insulative (offering 97% thermal protection). This film is also non-toxic and won't release any harmful gasses that can damage sensitive plants.All of the zippers used in the tent are extremely durable and 100% lightproof.
The Dark Room utilizes intake/exhaust ports that employ a dual-sock design, allowing them to adjust to fit various sizes of ducting. The dual-sock design also allows for attaching equipment or ducting to both sides of the material while maintaining a lightproof environment. Drawstrings eliminate the need for duct hose clamps and make installation of ducting and fans quick and easy. The Dark Room also utilizes the same type of socks to allow cords and tubing to enter or exit the structure while keeping light from doing the same. All Dark Room models have a dual-sock port in the back corner or the roof where the exhaust fan can be attached. Instead of strapping the fan to the interior of the tent you can simply sit the fan in the port on the roof for an easy and effective mounting solution. Not only does this make for a secure, light-tight fit (there is no chance of the fan breaking away from the straps due to vibration and falling on the plants), it also takes one more piece of heat-generating equipment out of the grow room (although the fan can still be strapped to the interior if desired). The window ports at the bottom of the grow room (used for intake) are accessed from the outside instead of the inside, allowing their use without opening the Dark Room. There is also a second waterproof floor to increase floor protection and can easily be removed and replaced for cleaning between crops.
The Dark Room frame is constructed of 0.70mm thick, 15.9mm diameter metal poles, making it very rugged for everyday use. The poles also utilize a special surface treatment that aids in installation and enhances their appearance. The poles that make up the ceiling framework are moveable, making it so much easier to adjust the positioning of lights, filters or anything else you may end up hanging from them. The ceiling poles have been improved to handle significantly more weight, especially at the center (where most other tents have a tendency to sag).
The new corner fittings are made from a virtually indestructible polymer that bends under extreme pressure instead of snapping. These fittings are much stronger than competing fittings (plastic or metal) and won't rust like metal fittings. Their design also makes installation much easier than other tents, since the frame poles slide easily into the fittings with little or no resistance.
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thats the info from the dark room tent, the material is made for what I want to do and I can get a fan to circulate the air, plus is always cold where I live(dont know if this makes a difference at all).
 

grkgod

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As long as you can control the temps in the tent, the more light the better. You'll always get tighter, more compact dence bud, and better yeild with the HID unit compaired to floras or cfls. You'll for sure have a higher electric bill with the 1000w. You just have to figure if it's worth the extra $25 $30 bucks. I would think it's a no brainer.
25-30 bucks is a small price to pay for a steady supply of primo bud.
 

grkgod

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My main concern is the plant dieing from burn or something like that, is it possible to have to much light on one plant?
 

pinspot

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plus is always cold where I live(dont know if this makes a difference at all).
I would say unless you live in an igloo, you'll eventuelly run into heat issues. The circ fan is always good, but you'll most definitly need to add some kind of exhaust fan to get the heat out of the grow space. The HID units do put off alot of heat. Is your xtrasun reflector air coolable?
 

grkgod

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I would say unless you live in an igloo, you'll eventuelly run into heat issues. The circ fan is always good, but you'll most definitly need to add some kind of exhaust fan to get the heat out of the grow space. The HID units do put off alot of heat. Is your xtrasun reflector air coolable?
Yes it is but this is a closet grow mind you...
 

M Blaze

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One plant would most likely outgrow that tent if you use the 1000watt. I think that light would be more suited to a room than a tent.
 

grkgod

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One plant would most likely outgrow that tent if you use the 1000watt. I think that light would be more suited to a room than a tent.
Yea the tent was prob a bad idea, it is kind of small.

The tent would have gone in a closet with a clothes rod rack anyway, I could hang the light from there and cover the closet with mylar, would this help with the heat and growth issues at all?

The closet is prob about 8 or 9 feet tall and the rod is prob at about 6-7 feet up in the closet.
 

Jester22

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hello all im new to this grow MJ thing been smokeing it most my life.been do some research on the web about it and learned alot the last week.i have a Q. was wondering about hydroponic grow closet.Im planing on buying a hydro grow box the 1 i got my eye on is 20"x54"x12" looks like a speaker has 150wat hps light. it says it able to grow 6 plants. my Q is is this speaker box big enough to grow 6 mj plants and is the light good enough? any help plz and ty
 

M Blaze

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Im not a closet grower but I just think that a 1000watt is a waste in a closet grow for one plant. A 600watt at the most would be more than enough for that closet and you would want to keep the light about 18-24 inches from the top of the plant throughout the grow.
 

grkgod

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Im not a closet grower but I just think that a 1000watt is a waste in a closet grow for one plant. A 600watt at the most would be more than enough for that closet and you would want to keep the light about 18-24 inches from the top of the plant throughout the grow.

Hey I understand where your coming from, but this was handed to for free! Ballast,Reflector, and mh bulb and all.

So at this point would it be worth it to spend another 200-300 bucks for a lower wattage light? I do plan on expanding the grow room and eventually added more plants.
 

M Blaze

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Well basically I use one 600watt light per plant but that is in a room with a big exhaust fan and it gets hot in there so I dont know how you would go with the heat in the closet from a 1000watt. They can grow huge under that amount of light. Someone with more knowlege on closet growing will come along and give you a better answer than I can
 

grkgod

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Well basically I use one 600watt light per plant but that is in a room with a big exhaust fan and it gets hot in there so I dont know how you would go with the heat in the closet from a 1000watt. They can grow huge under that amount of light. Someone with more knowlege on closet growing will come along and give you a better answer than I can

Hey I appreciate the insight you have provided already this is my first ever grow and any thoughts are always welcome...

I will be posting pics or starting a journal once my seeds come...Super Lemon Haze(feminized) from GH and AK-48 From Nirvana.
 

pinspot

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Yea the tent was prob a bad idea, it is kind of small.

The tent would have gone in a closet with a clothes rod rack anyway, I could hang the light from there and cover the closet with mylar, would this help with the heat and growth issues at all?

The closet is prob about 8 or 9 feet tall and the rod is prob at about 6-7 feet up in the closet.
The closet is a much better idea. You can always go out and buy a new 600w ballast and bulb or even a 400w. Definitly more efficiant for the space, but if you don't want to spend the exta bling you can go with the 1000w. you can always make it work somehow. Your biggest issue is still going to be the heat. Since you have an air cooled reflector, even though you are in a closet you can make it work. With a good inline fan, pulling cool air threw that reflector and exhausting it properly, you can keep the reflector within inches of the plant tops. Your also keeping the grow area much cooler buy eliminating the source of the heat.
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grkgod

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The closet is a much better idea. You can always go out and buy a new 600w ballast and bulb or even a 400w. Definitly more efficiant for the space, but if you don't want to spend the exta bling you can go with the 1000w. you can always make it work somehow. Your biggest issue is still going to be the heat. Since you have an air cooled reflector, even though you are in a closet you can make it work. With a good inline fan, pulling cool air threw that reflector and exhausting it properly, you can keep the reflector within inches of the plant tops. Your also keeping the grow area much cooler buy eliminating the source of the heat.
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inline fan? where do I get one of these and how is it powered?
 

pinspot

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inline fan? where do I get one of these and how is it powered?
Most grow shops will have them, or you can find them on Ebay.
Powered by regular 120V ac. You can also add a speed controler to the fan since they have brushless motors.
 
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