need some pro advice

mellow j

mellow j

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Hey Guys and Gals,

I need some good advice.
I screwed up.
I over potted, and over watered going into flower.
Almost killed my plants.

I transplanted them into 2 gal pots, and made sure drainage is good, and they were sagging baddly, but I some how managed to baby them enough so that they don't have any yellowing anywhere.
They are just like on pause right now. Shocked from over watering and transplant.

I really worked hard training them and don't want to lose them. My wife needs this medicine.
Two plants,
Bubba Kush, and Northern lights by Big Bud.
Im 1.5 weeks into 12 and 12.

Should I hit them with some Super Thrive, and put them back into veg to recover, then flip to flower once recovered?

Please, any suggestions
 

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mellow j

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chuck estevez said:
no superthrive, don't use that crap, no to reveg, leave them be, wait until you can pick up the pot and it feels light again, then give them a little feeding.
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Hey Chuck,
Thank for the help brother! You don't know how much I appreciate you. :-)

I have, FF Big Bloom, FF Tiger Bloom, Cal/Mag, Molasses Aand some Grow Big, if they need some nitrogen
What kind of ratio would you suggest?
 
chuck estevez

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mellow j said:
Hey Chuck,
Thank for the help brother! You don't know how much I appreciate you. :-)

I have, FF Big Bloom, FF Tiger Bloom, Cal/Mag, Molasses.

What kind of ratio would you suggest?
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tiger bloom is recommended at 2-3 teaspoons per gallon, I would start at maybe 1 to 2 teaspoons
big bloom I would go with a 1/4 to half recommended, and water with that low dose every time. I would only use cal/mag if I was using r/o or distilled water and molasses is really only good for brewing teas to feed an organic soil.
 
Guy2HIGH

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mellow j said:
Hey Guys and Gals,
Should I hit them with some Super Thrive, and put them back into veg to recover, then flip to flower once recovered?
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Forget the superthrive.. mix 1 Tbsp of B1 into a gallon of water and give to the plant. This should have been done just after transplanting. B1 drastically reduces transplant shock. B1 is also needed by flowering plants.

Over-potting is impossible... the plant's roots will strive to fill any pot it is put in. The more root mass the plant has, the bigger it can grow and the healthier it will be.
Over watering is what most new growers do to kill their plants. There are many methods that new and older growers alike can utilize to keep from over watering their plants. The easiest way is to pick up the pot before and after it has been watered, so the grower can get used to how heavy the container should feel after it has been properly watered.

Cannabis plants are very resilient and are capable of bouncing back from some such grower mistakes. Pay attention to how much water you are giving your plant, over watering and under watering are usually new grower mistakes. If the medium is too dry, add some water until there is a little run-off coming from the bottom of the container. If the medium is too wet, let it dry out for a few days.

Your plants will be just fine, give them a little time to get used to their new containers and they'll start to actively grow again in no time.
 
mellow j

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k estevez said:
tiger bloom is recommended at 2-3 teaspoons per gallon, I would start at maybe 1 to 2 teaspoons
big bloom I would go with a 1/4 to half recommended, and water with that low dose every time. I would only use cal/mag if I was using r/o or distilled water and molasses is really only good for brewing teas to feed an organic soil.
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Gotcha my brother. Hey thanks man. You RAWK!
 
mellow j

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Guy2HIGH said:
Forget the superthrive.. mix 1 Tbsp of B1 into a gallon of water and give to the plant. This should have been done just after transplanting. B1 drastically reduces transplant shock. B1 is also needed by flowering plants.

Over-potting is impossible... the plant's roots will strive to fill any pot it is put in. The more root mass the plant has, the bigger it can grow and the healthier it will be.
Over watering is what most new growers do to kill their plants. There are many methods that new and older growers alike can utilize to keep from over watering their plants. The easiest way is to pick up the pot before and after it has been watered, so the grower can get used to how heavy the container should feel after it has been properly watered.

Cannabis plants are very resilient and are capable of bouncing back from some such grower mistakes. Pay attention to how much water you are giving your plant, over watering and under watering are usually new grower mistakes. If the medium is too dry, add some water until there is a little run-off coming from the bottom of the container. If the medium is too wet, let it dry out for a few days.

Your plants will be just fine, give them a little time to get used to their new containers and they'll start to actively grow again in no time.
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Great advice! Seems to be the winning treatment. Yeah I'm still a noob. Got 4 decent grows so far, but I knew better than this. Still honing the craft ya know. Thanks to bros like you and Chuck, I'm getting better and better. Much thanks bro. Ppp
 
Guy2HIGH

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Feeding your plant nutrients right now could be a big mistake... I thought you just said you didn't want to lose your plants. You may want to consider waiting for the roots to start growing in the new container first before you start feeding them. I'd wait or a few days before giving them food.. that's what I would do... but, we're all different.
 
chuck estevez

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Guy2HIGH said:
Forget the superthrive.. mix 1 Tbsp of B1 into a gallon of water and give to the plant. This should have been done just after transplanting. B1 drastically reduces transplant shock. B1 is also needed by flowering plants.

Over-potting is impossible... the plant's roots will strive to fill any pot it is put in. The more root mass the plant has, the bigger it can grow and the healthier it will be.
Over watering is what most new growers do to kill their plants. There are many methods that new and older growers alike can utilize to keep from over watering their plants. The easiest way is to pick up the pot before and after it has been watered, so the grower can get used to how heavy the container should feel after it has been properly watered.

Cannabis plants are very resilient and are capable of bouncing back from some such grower mistakes. Pay attention to how much water you are giving your plant, over watering and under watering are usually new grower mistakes. If the medium is too dry, add some water until there is a little run-off coming from the bottom of the container. If the medium is too wet, let it dry out for a few days.

Your plants will be just fine, give them a little time to get used to their new containers and they'll start to actively grow again in no time.
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agree with everything except the b-1 http://www.almadenvalleynursery.com/site/breaking-the-vitamin-b-1myth-articles.php

http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/CoopExt/4DMG/Garden/beware.htm
 
Diabolical666

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OP look at the feeding chart for fox farms...notice you do not give tiger bloom till you go into flower....I'm a FF gal and I recommend giving it a full dose of Big Bloom on the next watering...also look at the contents of the BB , has a bit of N you need to get em perked up and going again
 
VTMi'kmaq

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Guy2HIGH said:
Forget the superthrive.. mix 1 Tbsp of B1 into a gallon of water and give to the plant. This should have been done just after transplanting. B1 drastically reduces transplant shock. B1 is also needed by flowering plants.

Over-potting is impossible... the plant's roots will strive to fill any pot it is put in. The more root mass the plant has, the bigger it can grow and the healthier it will be.
Over watering is what most new growers do to kill their plants. There are many methods that new and older growers alike can utilize to keep from over watering their plants. The easiest way is to pick up the pot before and after it has been watered, so the grower can get used to how heavy the container should feel after it has been properly watered.

Cannabis plants are very resilient and are capable of bouncing back from some such grower mistakes. Pay attention to how much water you are giving your plant, over watering and under watering are usually new grower mistakes. If the medium is too dry, add some water until there is a little run-off coming from the bottom of the container. If the medium is too wet, let it dry out for a few days.

Your plants will be just fine, give them a little time to get used to their new containers and they'll start to actively grow again in no time.
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Shit dude 's on point!
 
mellow j

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Guy2HIGH said:
Feeding your plant nutrients right now could be a big mistake... I thought you just said you didn't want to lose your plants. You may want to consider waiting for the roots to start growing in the new container first before you start feeding them. I'd wait or a few days before giving them food.. that's what I would do... but, we're all different.
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Letting them have some dry time first. I woud think that feeding them now would be the nail in the coffin
 
Guy2HIGH

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chuck estevez said:
agree with everything except the b-1 http://www.almadenvalleynursery.com/site/breaking-the-vitamin-b-1myth-articles.php
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Really? The study you posted was for growing Marigolds... we grow cannabis. If you don't like to use B1, that's ok, there are many other substances that may be used.

One of the best root stimulators known to mankind is Mycorrhizae fungus added to your growing medium. Another is phosphorus... phosphorus promotes healthy, strong roots and is needed by the plant anyways.
 
mellow j

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Diabolical666 said:
OP look at the feeding chart for fox farms...notice you do not give tiger bloom till you go into flower....I'm a FF gal and I recommend giving it a full dose of Big Bloom on the next watering...also look at the contents of the BB , has a bit of N you need to get em perked up and going again
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"Diabolical666, post: 11730762, member: 878665"]OP look at the feeding chart for fox farms...notice you do not give tiger bloom till you go into flower....I'm a FF gal and I recommend giving it a full dose of Big Bloom on the next watering...also look at the contents of the BB , has a bit of N you need to get em perked up and going again[/QUOTE]
I have the FF Feeding schedule. When I do start back light feeding again, I'm going to give them a healthy but conservative dose of Big Bloom, for the micro nutes and for its conditioning action to the soil, and catalyst effect, so that any little bit of the other bloom nutes I give them, will be taken in. TB has an npk of 2-8-4. Big Bloom npk is.01-.03-.07
 
mellow j

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If I need a nitrogen kick, and if Tiger Blooms N of 2 isn't enough, I could add a 1/4 tsp of grow big.
It's going to have to be a careful, well thought, dialed in, cocktail to nurse feed back to life, I would think.
 
chuck estevez

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Guy2HIGH said:
Really? The study you posted was for growing Marigolds... we grow cannabis. If you don't like to use B1, that's ok, there are many other substances that may be used.

One of the best root stimulators known to mankind is Mycorrhizae fungus added to your growing medium. Another is phosphorus... phosphorus promotes healthy, strong roots and is needed by the plant anyways.
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you need to do some reading
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-never-ending-abuse-of-phosphorous-bloom-foods-to-enhance-flowering.158144/

and I posted 2 links
http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/CoopExt/4DMG/Garden/beware.htm

The bottom line: While root stimulator products are not necessary for transplant success, if you do use one, make sure it contains a rooting hormone and fertilizer rather than just vitamin B1. The vitamin B1 is for marketing purposes rather than actual effect.
 
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