needs help, pics and i am following the template

How long has this problem been going on? this problem began today
What STRAIN are you growing? bagseed, i kiied the master kush
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 4 weeks
How Tall are the plants? 5-6 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) topped
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) just transplanted tuesday into 3 gallon,
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) they were in 3 gallon with crappy soil and bad perlite which release N for the first 4 weeks, now in premium pro mix with organic perlite
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* no nutes, watered tuesday morning, and thursday as they were quite dry already
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? N/A
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? 6.7
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? test kit
How often are you watering? 2-3 days or when lightweight and dry
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? N/A
What size bulb are you using? 4 26 watt cfls per plant
What is the distance to the canopy? N/A
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 40-55%
What is the canopy temperature? 75-82
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) 75-82
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) N/A
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? yes
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? no
Is your water HARD or SOFT? not using water softener but not hard either
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? spring fed well water
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? nope
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? organic spray, small amount for gnats, using perlite on top of soil and strips as well
Are plant's infected with pest's? not now, before transplant there were some gnats




so the perlite rally fucked up my plants, the master kush were killed and these bagseeds almost didn't make it. they looked much worse then this on monday, transplanted on tuesday morning into premium pro mix soil w organic perlite. they looked great yesterday, now tonight they have started to yellow in kind of an odd way, imho. i has gnats, used organic spray, small amount only, from hydro store and when i transplanted i placed a layer of perlite on top and am using fly strips, haven't seen any gnats since transplant. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!! thankyou, thankyouverymuch

Add nutrients, looks like your foilar feeding with plain water too much aswell.
After your plant absorbs nutrients (1/2-3/4 str nutes) you can see if it needs more or less.

Marlboro47 said:

Add nutrients, looks like your foilar feeding with plain water too much aswell.
After your plant absorbs nutrients (1/2-3/4 str nutes) you can see if it needs more or less.

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really? i have only sprayed them 2 times in like 3 weeks?? i keep forgetting to do that because i have the lights on 20/4 and i just don't think of it. i have the bat guano/worm casing mixture from foxfarm, big bloom i think, and some super thrive as well as a 12-4-5 mixture, ortho i think. which would you use?

I would start with the Ortho. Those babies need N, *stat*! Does the Ortho have Fe and Mg as well? cn

i stopped at started with crappy soil. Chances are they are going to take too long to recover from your fuck up. Toss them and start new with better soil next time.

well jesus, i have them in premium pro mix now and they are doing much better, i did throw the freakn $12 each master kush seeds out however i DO NOT have the luxury of starting over brother and i am not going to throw them out at 33 days old, they have a wonderful root system and were transplanted gently. i am not an idiot, if i thought they were trash i would have thrown them out in the trash but no thanks, i ain't yanking these just yet, thank you anyway

and thanks, i know i fucked up, but i had perlite that was fucking full of nitrogen that fucked them up soooooooooooooooo i am doing the best i can to recover.

if you don't wanna help, don't try to hurt

i was going to say flush....................

4 weeks old and they are 4-5 inches???

the inner part of the leaves being yellow is usually iron deficient, but the entire plant is so light colored, id guess nitrogen is low too. pic 4 with the splotches looks like manganese deficiency too
3 gal buckets for those babies are like putting someone in a BIG ASS ROOM WITH A CRACKER IN THE CORNER. eat! but dont move man! - Dont move them back, dont stress them more, you will probably just have to water more often

i think the soil was so crappy, and the lack of nutes just starved them. worse then the olsen twins. get them some nutes, you already got better soil... dont go overfeeding them, but yea they need something balanced. get a few different products, for veggie growth, make sure the N-P-K of them is N heavy, but not 100-0-0 or something rediculous.
i say a could different ones cuz they always have different trace elements. anyways, mix them at like 1/4th strength MAX right now, and feed them

heres mine at 1 month exactly, and about 14 inches... using a 85w CFL

I have to agree with Nick, I think you have put them in too large a medium. I have experienced this in my eagerness to increase pot size. It is good for your roots to search for water, but when there is such a massive medium, without totally filling up your pot, then the chances are that not all of your roots are getting into the small water channels within the medium. Ease up on the water and let those roots spread around and I think you'll be able to turn them around. Good luck and I also swear by micro element washes (fe, zn, mg, m, etc, etc..) I use Pokon Groenkracht.

Peace and good luck.

DST

thanks guys, i appreciate your input and will follow your advice.

i totally admit i learned everything i know about growing, which is not much, from this website and others. it's hard to weed thru and get things right, i read to start in as big of a pot as possible so you don't have to transplant and also i read to use party cups, i read use no nutes and then i read to use nutes, i ask for help and as you can see from the above answers that i got, what 4 or 5 totally different answers, and that's not including jesus telling me to throw my shit out, it's so confusing.

i genuinely appreciate all of your help.

When I first started growing I picked up Ed Rosenthals Marijuana Growers Handbook. A little science does the body goooood.... A lot of people round here have a lot of different opinions. Stick to the facts and youll be cool.

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thanks guys, i appreciate your input and will follow your advice.

i totally admit i learned everything i know about growing, which is not much, from this website and others. it's hard to weed thru and get things right, i read to start in as big of a pot as possible so you don't have to transplant and also i read to use party cups, i read use no nutes and then i read to use nutes, i ask for help and as you can see from the above answers that i got, what 4 or 5 totally different answers, and that's not including jesus telling me to throw my shit out, it's so confusing.

i genuinely appreciate all of your help.

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indeed learning to grow is quite hard, despite what they say. But when learning you have to pay your tuition on time otherwise learning costs more... Now it's time to count your losses and start over (unless you really have no more seeds and can't get any). These plants have taken too much damage, and will not give you what you need to get for the effort, money and risk you are putting. If you grow, grow right and if you made a mistake, be ready to pay for it.

Now that you have decent soil and some more knowledge, you can get plants that will be bigger and look better than those in 14 days. I've been in your place I know how hard it is to even consider throwing your babies away, but I think it's for the best - if already risking a grow, then make it right.