Never tried shrooms... curious abou it!

HisGirl420

Active Member
Okay so I am 23 effing years old and done all that hard sh1t our there (except acid) and I have yet to try shrooms! I am terrified of having a bad trip. Also my boyfriend and me may want to start a little fungus grow ourselves but don't even know where to be begin. So first question, how can I avoid a bad trip and everything? Question 2, how the hell do you grow them?!
 

stumps

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just got to be in the right frame of mind. shrooms are better then acid imo. no week long hang over no fucked up flash backs and as far as I know it don't stick around like acid.
 

purpz

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make sure to have someone with you the 1st time you try it, someone you can trust. It's all about the environment you're surrounded by. Everyones own experience is there own. personally i did all these things & i still had a bad trip, tried them once & never will again.
 
i love shrooms....very clean high. a good tip is just relax and enjoy it dont be scared of it.its all in your mindstate what kind of trip you will have.dont worry so much just make sure your somewhere safe when taking it cause it does trip you out haha.
 

Karmapuff

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Yeah you have to be in a good mind set, completely comfortable with your mood and environment before tripping.
Shrooms are very unpredictable though, but usually the first trip is always the best.

I like acid imo... It gives me more control over my trip and it lasts longer :) With shrooms everything is constantly changing...
 

ndangerspecimen101

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just got to be in the right frame of mind. shrooms are better then acid imo. no week long hang over no fucked up flash backs and as far as I know it don't stick around like acid.
Mushrooms good, agreed!

But LSD leaves you fucked up and gives you flashbacks. Are you serious? Have you actually consumed LSD or just taking the easy route and saying yeah leave LSD alone it bads for you.... flashbacks, psychotic outbreaks, permanently insane... are all the assigned false allegations against LSD. I'm pretty sure you got some dirty L and it kicked you in the wrong way. Every heard of the terms needlepoint or white fluff :D
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Good vibes + positive energies = a beautiful place! Free you mind little lady!!!
Yes. Thats what you want going into a mushroom trip. You want your mind to be sharp not doubtful... or worrisome. You must be certain of your own cognition going into an actual psychedelic expereience. Each experience is very safe considering those of mushrooms, mescaline, LSD, and I'll add mdma in there since major work is going on the brain to compute such an action ;)

Do not consume around people who are against the idea.... or tripping inside your house. The house tends to harvest a lot of memories.... good or bad... and they can interject themselves into the role of the mushroom trip. Being away, like a forest, museum, park, amusement park will be most desirable. Once you read up, forget about everthing I just said.... because the trip is like that. Its foreign.... your brain will forget most about the objectives of the trip and it'll just rotate and rotate until finding a common ground in which to "direct" the nature of the trip!
 

Karmapuff

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Listen to Dave, he took shrooms last week and exploded in front of a live audience...
but in all seriousness you won't die, just drink alot of aqua.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Yeah don't buy into the hype. Its a good time if you let it. Don't try to control your thoughts or make yourself sober in the process. The trip at that time will just buckle... and welcome to Gonzo's World of the infamous loopy thoughts. Like you wanna shake your head to get them out of there like a bag of fleas. But I'll leave it at that. When you do ingest, give us a hello so we can know your alright :D
 

sso

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you wouldnt die, even if you ate 500 shrooms.

but id advise a lower dose at first , lol, maybe 25-50, thats similar to getting pretty stoned , just with bit visiual distortions.
 

Karmapuff

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My thoughts on shrooms are so colorful, I don't have such thoughts on lucy just amazement.
You have to enjoy the trip let it take you on a journey! I have a tendency to fight all my trips, Once I fully let go things get good :) sooo just don't fight it... it will always win.
 

purpz

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you wouldnt die, even if you ate 500 shrooms.

but id advise a lower dose at first , lol, maybe 25-50, thats similar to getting pretty stoned , just with bit visiual distortions.
500 shrooms!? yea you can actually overdose from shrooms! & 25-50 for your first trip? yea right...
 

Puffer Fish

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just got to be in the right frame of mind. shrooms are better then acid imo. no week long hang over no fucked up flash backs and as far as I know it don't stick around like acid.
Kind sir have you ever done LSD ?
I do not believe so ... please check your sources.
As you are scaring kids and spreading disinformation.
An acid flashback is a 'gift from God'
It is your brain actually recalling a past state of 'wow' ... without the chemical present.
Think about this.

OP .... shroomies are great ... you will love them Sister.
Surround yourself with kin, in good spirit and take your
time ... and the universe will unfold.

:)
 

Chem Dawg

New Member
500 shrooms!? yea you can actually overdose from shrooms! & 25-50 for your first trip? yea right...
Actually you would have to eat 500 grams of dried mushrooms to even have a 50% chance of dying ( that's fact ). Good luck getting through 14 grams!
 

Chem Dawg

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Honestly bro , every day consumptions are more toxic to the human body. Pepsi/coke, Tylenol , and coffee just to name a few. Now with that said, if you have any mental disorder ( bi-polar,skitzo,or seriously depressed ) stay away from any psychoactive drugs. Everything is not for everybody!
 

purpz

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"Amanita muscaria poisoning typically occurs in either young children or people ingesting it for a hallucinogenic experience.[12][46][47] Occasionally, immature button forms have been mistaken for edible puffballs.[48] Additionally, the white spots may be washed away during heavy rain and it can then appear similar to the edible A. caesarea.[49]

Amanita muscaria contains a number of biologically active agents, at least two of which, muscimol and ibotenic acid, are known to be psychoactive. A toxic dose in adults is approximately 6 mg muscimol or 30 to 60 mg ibotenic acid;[50][51] this is typically about the amount found in one cap of Amanita muscaria.[52] However, the amount and ratio of chemical compounds per mushroom varies widely from region to region and season to season, which further confuses the issue. Spring and summer mushrooms have been reported to contain up to 10 times as much ibotenic acid and muscimol compared to autumn fruitings.[46]

A fatal dose has been calculated at approximately 15 caps.[53] Deaths from A. muscaria have been reported in historical journal articles and newspaper reports;[54][55][56] however, with modern medical treatment a fatal outcome would be extremely rare.[57] Many older books mistakenly list it as deadly, giving the impression that it is far more toxic than it really is.[58] The North American Mycological Association has stated there are no reliably documented fatalities in the past 100 years.[59] The vast majority (90% or more) of mushroom poisoning deaths are from having eaten either the greenish to yellowish death cap (A. phalloides) or one of the several white Amanita species known as destroying angels.[60]

The active constituents of this species are water soluble, and boiling and then discarding the cooking water will at least partly detoxify A. muscaria.[61] However, drying may increase potency as the process facilitates the conversion of ibotenic acid to the more potent muscimol.[62] According to some sources, once detoxified, the mushroom becomes edible"
 

Chem Dawg

New Member
"Amanita muscaria poisoning typically occurs in either young children or people ingesting it for a hallucinogenic experience.[12][46][47] Occasionally, immature button forms have been mistaken for edible puffballs.[48] Additionally, the white spots may be washed away during heavy rain and it can then appear similar to the edible A. caesarea.[49]

Amanita muscaria contains a number of biologically active agents, at least two of which, muscimol and ibotenic acid, are known to be psychoactive. A toxic dose in adults is approximately 6 mg muscimol or 30 to 60 mg ibotenic acid;[50][51] this is typically about the amount found in one cap of Amanita muscaria.[52] However, the amount and ratio of chemical compounds per mushroom varies widely from region to region and season to season, which further confuses the issue. Spring and summer mushrooms have been reported to contain up to 10 times as much ibotenic acid and muscimol compared to autumn fruitings.[46]

A fatal dose has been calculated at approximately 15 caps.[53] Deaths from A. muscaria have been reported in historical journal articles and newspaper reports;[54][55][56] however, with modern medical treatment a fatal outcome would be extremely rare.[57] Many older books mistakenly list it as deadly, giving the impression that it is far more toxic than it really is.[58] The North American Mycological Association has stated there are no reliably documented fatalities in the past 100 years.[59] The vast majority (90% or more) of mushroom poisoning deaths are from having eaten either the greenish to yellowish death cap (A. phalloides) or one of the several white Amanita species known as destroying angels.[60]

The active constituents of this species are water soluble, and boiling and then discarding the cooking water will at least partly detoxify A. muscaria.[61] However, drying may increase potency as the process facilitates the conversion of ibotenic acid to the more potent muscimol.[62] According to some sources, once detoxified, the mushroom becomes edible"

How many dried mushrooms would I have to eat to die from an overdose of psilocybin?
Using the data for rats and accepting a median of 1% potency, it would require the consumption of 1680g of mushrooms to reach the LD50 for a 60kg "rat".


The LD50 stands for the Lethal Dose that is requied to kill half of an exposed population to a particulare agent or drug.

The LD50 for Psilocybin: From the Merck Index 12th Edition
LD50 285 mg/kg i.v.(mice)
LD50 280 mg/kg i.v. (rats)
LD50 12.5 mg/kg i.v.(rabbits)
We most often extrapolate, from rats to humans. So let's stick with convention and use the rat data to compute how many grams of dried mushrooms would be necessary to reach an overdosage of psilocybin.

Psilocybin content in dry mushrooms varies from species to species and ranges from .2 - 2.37%, 2.37 being the highest reported.

Lets take 1% as the median for "average" percentage and use the 280mg/kg i.v. as the LD50.

We must keep in our minds the LD50 considers intravenous dosage and not oral dosages, and that it's done on rats and not humans. Though rats are most often the animal models for humans.

Our question then is, how many mushrooms would one need to eat, if one weighed 60kg to reach the LD50.

Since the dosage is listed as mg/kg, we must multiply our body weight in kg by the LD50.

280mg/kg x 60kg = 16800mg (or 16.8g) of psilocybin. The units of kg cancel by simple math properties and we're left with an amount of pure psilocybin that would be required to kill a "rat" that weighs 60kg.

Since we know the amount of pure psilocybin that it would take to kill a 60kg "rat" and we have a range of psilocybin content present in dried mushrooms, we can now figure out a total dried weight of mushrooms that would be required to reach the LD50.

A simply dimensional analysis problem can be setup to solve this:

?g of mushrooms = 16.8g of psilocybin
16.8g psilocybin / (1g of psilocybin / 100g mushrooms) = 1680g mushrooms.
Thus we've determined that using the data for rats and accepting a median of 1% potency, that it would require the consumption of 1680g of mushrooms to reach the LD50 for a 60kg rat. This amount of mushrooms is enough to provide a "normal" mushroom trip to roughly 650 people.

Some things to keep in mind: Not all data can be extrapolated from rats to humans, but this common practice and generally accepted. Note that the LD50 incorporates route of administration. Therefore our answer of 1680g of mushrooms or 1.68kg of mushrooms is likely an underestimation of the oral dose required to kill a 60kg rat.
 
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