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lusidghost

lusidghost

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Rookieoftheyr said:
Them look nice just out of budget right now. I’m gonna go out and look today. I chose to use wet/dry vac to suck up excess runoff this morning when there lights came on. My leg is in a immobilizer still from acl repair and meniscus scrape last week. So next time I lift them will be to put racks of some sort to keep from sitting in runoff and continue to use vacuum. Thanks for advice. I’m hoping this will help the plants I got to keep in veg for a while also
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Everything will improve once you get them out of the runoff.
 
curious2garden

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Rookieoftheyr said:
I’ve only been letting the top dry out a inch maybe inch and a half. I have well water and my natural ph is roughly 6.5 to 7. I usually let a bucket sit outside in sun for a day then ph it to roughly 5.5 to 6 then put in nutrients or supplements test again then water. I say roughly because I don’t have a fancy pen yet just color sheet. My new tent is here Tuesday and I plan to start 4 in 12-12 light and veg the rest. I’m gonna drop a wall in my bigger home made tent to make two tents out of it with goal of one side being veg and other side a drying room. I started way to many plants with not enough knowledge of what I was really doing. I’m learning more everyday and am just trying to make what I got work now. If I could afford another store bought tent and a nice light I could get more in flower as I have everything else from all my other trial and errors. This is my first indoor grow and I jumped into it not knowing enough. I know I can do it just this first run has been a constant learning curve and money wasted in the wrong things. I should of studied more before I jumped into it. All advice is appreciated
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White space is your friend. This is a wall of text. Here goes:

1. You pH your solution AFTER you put in nutrients. There is no reason to let it sit out.

2. If this is your well I'd get a professional analysis. Iron can be your enemy.

3. pH is a logarithmic scale estimate of .5 is too gross. How are you measuring your pH? Let me cut to the chase and tell you you need a meter.
 
Rookieoftheyr

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twentyeight.threefive said:
You never let coco dry out, not even the top inch or inch and a half.

Always feed coco nutrients. Never plain water.

Always feed to significant runoff if the plant is properly rooted in it's pot. If it's a small plant in a large pot you need to give it less water.
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Copy that. I will water more frequently but less volume. It is small plants in big pots. Your are right. And I’m hesitant on always giving nutrients but I promise your experience trumps mine and I lm trying to learn how to do this the right way. So that said I will try this. Thanks
 
curious2garden

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bk78 said:
I let my coco dry out :shrug:

feed once a day too :hump:
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LOL I don't want to confuse the kid more than he is now. Yeah I'll end up with a dry day etc..... In August my canopy will hit 105. I will shut down my lights so they only get 4-6 hours/day of light and I don't get herms (in flower). My humidity rarely exceeds 10%. I can go on and on! The VPD police would haul me out in shackles.

Anyway once you have experience you can do all kinds of crazy shit and catch things. Usually not in the beginning and for me with soil f'n never!
 
Dank Bongula

Dank Bongula

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Rookieoftheyr said:
I’m gonna drop a wall in my bigger home made tent to make two tents out of it with goal of one side being veg and other side a drying room.
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No. You need to start doing research on drying...you can't figure that out as you go unless you want to waste everything you just spent the last 4 months working on.
 
Rookieoftheyr

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lusidghost said:
Knuckles deep? Letting a bit of the top layer get light brown is okay, but dry-dry is just killing the roots.
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I don’t think I’ve ever been dry dry just yet. Close but not all the way. first knuckle deep dry. Seemed when I did let them dry out a little more they had a spurt of growth.
 
lusidghost

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Rookieoftheyr said:
I don’t think I’ve ever been dry dry just yet. Close but not all the way. first knuckle deep dry. Seemed when I did let them dry out a little more they had a spurt of growth.
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This is because you are keeping them oversaturated for the rest of the time.
 
curious2garden

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lusidghost said:
I'm not sure what the size of your saucers are, and you can probably find them cheaper elsewhere depending on shipping, but these things are nice. You can also get creative and use baking racks or whatever.

Amazon.com : Gro Pro NX Level Pot Elevator, 13 Inch : Garden & Outdoor

Amazon.com : Gro Pro NX Level Pot Elevator, 13 Inch : Garden & Outdoor
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Those are nice! But pricey! If you have a hacksaw you can just buy some PVC pipe and cut it in 1" lengths and put 4 or 5 in your saucer.
 
bk78

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curious2garden said:
LOL I don't want to confuse the kid more than he is now. Yeah I'll end up with a dry day etc..... In August my canopy will hit 105. I will shut down my lights so they only get 4-6 hours/day of light and I don't get herms (in flower). My humidity rarely exceeds 10%. I can go on and on! The VPD police would haul me out in shackles.

Anyway once you have experience you can do all kinds of crazy shit and catch things. Usually not in the beginning and for me with soil f'n never!
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People make growing in coco way more complicated than it really is. My clones only get fed when the cups dry out every couple days. Once they have good roots they will get daily feeds, which continue until harvest.
 
lusidghost

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bk78 said:
People make growing in coco way more complicated than it really is. My clones only get fed when the cups dry out every couple days. Once they have good roots they will get daily feeds, which continue until harvest.
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I agree with this. When they are little I water on demand, then eventually they'll want watering daily. Sometimes when I'm close to harvest they'll almost need watered multiple times a day, but they've never quite gotten to the point.
 
Rookieoftheyr

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Dank Bongula said:
No. You need to start doing research on drying...you can't figure that out as you go unless you want to waste everything you just spent the last 4 months working on.
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My plan was to use the 4x4x7 to flower. Spit my 10x5x7 in half and use one side to keep vegging and other side to dry with humidifier. My plan was never to buy a flower tent but I couldn’t get my environment right with what I had so I researched all my equipment and just trying to make what I got now work. My veg tent will have temp humidity controls with couple old small veg lights from my nursery from outdoor days. I used to start plants in nursery and move outdoors. But lose 90 percent of plants for numerous reasons. I’ll never go back to outdoor. I will get this right
 
Dank Bongula

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Rookieoftheyr said:
My plan was to use the 4x4x7 to flower. Spit my 10x5x7 in half and use one side to keep vegging and other side to dry with humidifier. My plan was never to buy a flower tent but I couldn’t get my environment right with what I had so I researched all my equipment and just trying to make what I got now work. My veg tent will have temp humidity controls with couple old small veg lights from my nursery from outdoor days. I used to start plants in nursery and move outdoors. But lose 90 percent of plants for numerous reasons. I’ll never go back to outdoor. I will get this right
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Repeating your plan to me isn't gonna make me agree with it but you do what you gotta do. Good luck on improving that 90% loss rate.
 
Rookieoftheyr

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curious2garden said:
Those are nice! But pricey! If you have a hacksaw you can just buy some PVC pipe and cut it in 1" lengths and put 4 or 5 in your saucer.
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I have pvc from my tent build but I agree but pricey. I’m gonna go scoot the amigo around Home Depot or Walmart and see what I can come up with. I’m thinking them cooling racks for cakes and pies may be the ticket. It would be easier for me to just vac up excess runoff. Wich from sounds of it I have a few days of letting them dry out from over saturation then I shouldn’t have that issue as I’ll feed less and more according to plant and size of my pot
 
curious2garden

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Rookieoftheyr said:
I have pvc from my tent build but I agree but pricey. I’m gonna go scoot the amigo around Home Depot or Walmart and see what I can come up with. I’m thinking them cooling racks for cakes and pies may be the ticket. It would be easier for me to just vac up excess runoff. Wich from sounds of it I have a few days of letting them dry out from over saturation then I shouldn’t have that issue as I’ll feed less and more according to plant and size of my pot
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You can't overwater coco. You need to get out of the dry out mindset or just switch to soil. You aren't @bk78 YET!
 
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