New autoflower grow , speedrun seeds / co2 . New system “for the most part “

Starting a new grow thread becuase I upgraded all my equipment and popped new seeds 5 and 8 days ago .

I popped 4 acid snow , and 4 boss battle , in root riot cubes with a light mixture of clonex solution , with orca myco , roots exculerator “kelp” . I put the plugs in 3 inch grodan blocks and in a tray , with a. Dome .

I mixed my coco loco and perlite up to a 50/50 mixture , as well as added some dynomyco , filled my 9 gallon 4 pot system up , and transplanted the 4 most vigorous plants . 2 boss battle and 2 acid snow . I took 3 of the remaining 4 and put them in floraflex quick fill 1 gallon grow bags , and set them in the tray in the middle .
I mixed up my reservoir , with 40 % canna coco a+b , 40% of recommended rhizotonic , roots exculerator , great white myco , 40% cal mag and 1g per gallon epsom salts. Mixed it up thoroughly and lowered ph to 6.0 . I have a small submersible pump in the bottom of my 12.9 gallon reservoir that constantly keeps the water moving around .

for the last two days , I have given them each a red solo cup of this solution . They’ve responded by fattening up , on their 4th set of leaves , and even have side branches after just 8 days on the acid snow ! Very dark green , no signs of deficiency at all .

right now I have my temp dialed in to 80 degrees , with lights on 6/2 off and being controlled by a manual timer - . Vpd is holding .9-1.1 , humidity is 67% , and with lights off im seeing 72 degrees , my fans , humidifier , heater , etc are all ac infinity and triggered with the 69 pro plus controller . Im seeing about 650ppm of co2 from the lung room air. Im waiting on my co2 bottle so that I can start implementing a strategy to drop co2 , and keep the fans from evacuating it all .

I’ll post several pictures when I get home - I just took my 6 year old daughter to learn to skate for the first time tonight - but I have lots of work to do when I get home . I did bump the lights up to 50% on the full spectrum side , zero percent on the reds / IR/UV . They immediately started praying . Can’t wait for two weeks to pass so I can stop hand watering

The white spots in these picture are from water droplets accidentally getting on them . My water is very hard and leaves spots as soon as it dries ,

Top feeding everything right now - keeping temp around 75-80 and targeting .9-1.1 vpd . Plants seem to be happy although I noticed some yellow tips . Not sure if it’s from feeding “first time getting nutes “ or it’s from an isssue arising . I gave them 750ppm solution of canna a+b , rhizotonic , roots exculerator gold , orca myco , great white myco , and calmax calmag . My tap water is 380-420ppm , so this is a very light feeding , in assuming it’s just a response from their first real meal .
I’ll update once a week

Did some topping on 4 of the 7 plants yesterday
They responded immediately by praying to the x750

I’m still too waterign them with a mixture of canna nutrients , with myco , roots exculerator , calmag and epsom salts .
I’m goin to run this batch for 3-5 more days , maintaining a 6.0PH , and next feed they’re getting recharge , great white , as well as canna coco recommended nutrient line . Since coco loco is essentially soil , I’m not sure I need epsom and calmag every feeding ? I’m also moving my carbon filter outside the tent - so that I can gain 12+ inches of light height - and encourage some heavy stretching over the next 3-4 weeks.

The one acid snow in the 1 gallon bag has exploded ! Things are starting off very smoothly , and I believe that this grow will come close to my goal - 2lbs total - albeit probably becuase I have 3 more autoflowers in the 1gallon grow bags .

Just mixed a 12.9 gallon batch of nutrients up

45ml of canna A and B
45ml of rhizotonic
60ML of Cannazyme
14ML of roots exculerator gold
35 grams of recharge
13 grams of Epsom salt
And bulletproof si silica

total ppm was 850 , with the tap water accounting for 400ppm

I moved my carbon filter outside the tent and raised my light up another 12 inches . This kind X750 is one hell of a light is all I can say !
Temps are holding at 82 degrees lights on , with RH in the 70% range for a total vpd of 1.1.

now if only I could get the t3 humidifier to work with the controller . I think I’m gonna replace it with the larger version soon .

The plants growth has started exploding for sure , and I think want to get them to continue to stretch and bush . I used the photone app and ppfd is 350-400 at the auto pot plants . Ironically the lower plants are in the 250 range “in the quick fill 1 gallon” and they’re growing faster it seems.

I’ll be back in a few days to a week with some progress updates and pictures .

So yesterday with some helpful advice - and my light all the way up , I decided to turn my kind x750 upto 100% . This was giving them a ppfd of 790 at the autopots and 600 at the 1 gallon pots in the tray in the center . In 24 hours these have exploded . The second picture is a 12 day old plant that has been topped . They’re getting about 750ppm atm , and 380-420 of that is my hard well water .

I have a feeling this grow is gonna be a heavy heavy dank one .
Question , how long should I wait to turn the autopots on ? The front two and the furthest one right in the tray , are 14 days old , and the other 4 are 12 days . I know most people say 3 weeks but these are pretty big for 2 week old autos from seed ‍

Looking great. Keep it up.
Im also using Canna at the moment so want to compare to other Canna coco growers. What PPM scale are you on?

by2 said:

Looking great. Keep it up.
Im also using Canna at the moment so want to compare to other Canna coco growers. What PPM scale are you on?

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500 scale . I’m using 40-50% of their recommended dosage - with hard water . Also adding several other supplements like kelp/myco/epsom/ etc

Not related to this grow in particular but figured I’d let yall know , I plan to keep this thread alive through multiple grows . I received my nightowl packs today !! Impressive is all I can say.

I ordered 5 packs , 3 seeds each . I received 6 packs with 6-7 seeds in each one . Over 40 auto seeds for 250 bucks . Not to mention the black light key chain , ashtray , rolling tray , papers , stickers , chocolate bar - key chains etc etc !!

I have to say , daz at nightowl and Ben at speedrun seeds , put a ton of effort into presentation , and both give plenty of extras with their orders ! You can not go wrong with either .

That is a lot of seeds for the . I just received today Daz's Naptown and Ben's Granite haze is on its way. I like the way you think.

420 Garden said:

That is a lot of seeds for the . I just received today Daz's Naptown and Ben's Granite haze is on its way. I like the way you think.

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I have a tester that’s granite haze f5 x iced latte I believe , that I can’t wait to run .

testers are so much fun because you really have no idea what to expect - same with mystery seeds .
Can’t go wrong with SRS or Night owl

Question , how long should I wait to turn the autopots on ?

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I use the Tray2grow and I did the mistake and watered them every day after transplant, it took a week before roots poked out the bottom of my fabric pots. I then turned on the valve and got some more root dev during the 2 first week of flower. But nothing compared to the other ones that I neglected and only watered once in 1 week.
So next round I thought to water directly after transplant, and then let it almost complete dry out before giving them more nutrient solution.
I am not sure if Autos might just start flowering if you let it go too dry so be careful If you go this route.

by2 said:

I use the Tray2grow and I did the mistake and watered them every day after transplant, it took a week before roots poked out the bottom of my fabric pots. I then turned on the valve and got some more root dev during the 2 first week of flower. But nothing compared to the other ones that I neglected and only watered once in 1 week.
So next round I thought to water directly after transplant, and then let it almost complete dry out before giving them more nutrient solution.
I am not sure if Autos might just start flowering if you let it go too dry so be careful If you go this route.

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I turned them on and gave 60ML of solution from the top .. I’m watering around them , trying to avoid the grodan cube to promote horizontal and vertical root growth into the medium

Day 15 , and I finally gave in and turned the reservoir on . I’m gonna continue to water outward , lightly to promote root growth .. I went slightly higher on the reservoir this time , I skipped the recharge but used everything else previously - with more canna a+b to bring my ppm upto 850 “slight increase”

I defoliated the two plants in the left two autopots. I also attempted some lst and snapped 2 branches off the acid snow … bonehead move , but it bounced back quickly .

I’m about to use some of these clips to get more horizontal growth . These work phenomenally , as long as you have enough node spacing to fit them - otherwise I recommend cutting the pot and using zip ties and plant tie wire to get the job done.

So the lst didn’t go so well on one acid snow . I ended up breaking several side branches lesson learned .

this time around with the coco loco , I have 3 plants already as large as my last grow - and they’re only 2.5 weeks old !

I honestly believe I can lean on them a little harder . Last batch was 850ppm , 380-420ppm accounted for because of my tap water !


I honestly think i didnt wash/buffer my coco enough last grow . That coupled with the led snd underfeeding led to a nasty calcium/magnesium deficiency that absolutely stunted them badly .

the ac infinity has been a godsend , as the temps in my porch get chilly at night . I can keep them around 70* with the light off , and 80-85 on . All while being 25-40* Fahrenheit outside .

I think a combination of the cocoloco , new equipment , “ possibly the kind x750 over the fluence spydr 2i 650w , “as well as a buddy Heater on my porch , making tons of co2 that’s drawn into the tentare responsible for much more accelerated growth I’m seeing in round 2 .

If I could pull 8oz per plant , aside from the one I stunted - and if the one gallons yield 2 Oz per , with the stunted one going 3-4 , I’d hit my goal of yielding 2+ lbs in a 4x4 tent .

I definitely need to do some cable management in there this week , as well as figure out why the back right autopot “largest plant” isn’t filling. It has to be plugged somewhere ..

as long as things stay going as is , I definitely believe I’ll get there .

I’ll be back mid week to post new pics !



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Day 17-19 I believe . Did some defoliation on the larger ones a few days ago .

They’re bouncing back effortlessly . I have a feeling they’re gonna be some very good sized autoflower in 3 of these pots .

I think the buddy Heater keeping co2 around 900-1000ppm in the tent , coupled with heavy intensity , and lots of humidity , are helping with the rapid growth . If these were photo periods I’d be flipping them already .
As long as I can get them to the finish line , without having to press the brakes ., I think this will be my heaviest yield yet .

I think instead of starting a new thread , I’m gonna re title this and continue my next grow “Nightowl” and possibly a couple of high end breeders cuts , that we got from pops genetics . Cap junky , white truffle , forbidden fruit and lemon cherry gelato , are the cuts we received .. I also have some exotic genetix gear to run . It may be time to upgrade to another tent or two , with two more autopot systems .

Also like to add , last grow I ran 24/7 - this grow I tried a unique light schedule of 6on 2 off , and that may be contributing to the rapid growth - making the plant think that each interval is day/night

DoubleD5374 said:

Day 17-19 I believe . Did some defoliation on the larger ones a few days ago .

They’re bouncing back effortlessly . I have a feeling they’re gonna be some very good sized autoflower in 3 of these pots .

I think the buddy Heater keeping co2 around 900-1000ppm in the tent , coupled with heavy intensity , and lots of humidity , are helping with the rapid growth . If these were photo periods I’d be flipping them already .
As long as I can get them to the finish line , without having to press the brakes ., I think this will be my heaviest yield yet .

I think instead of starting a new thread , I’m gonna re title this and continue my next grow “Nightowl” and possibly a couple of high end breeders cuts , that we got from pops genetics . Cap junky , white truffle , forbidden fruit and lemon cherry gelato , are the cuts we received .. I also have some exotic genetix gear to run . It may be time to upgrade to another tent or two , with two more autopot systems . View attachment 5439532View attachment 5439533View attachment 5439534

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Looking good! Very healthy. I'm going to put down some Night Owl too. Mailman dropped of Dog Wistle and Swamp Magic today. Got Naptown a week ago. Have some Speedrun beans coming Monday. I gotta quit, I'm becoming a seed hoarder.

420 Garden said:

Looking good! Very healthy. I'm going to put down some Night Owl too. Mailman dropped of Dog Wistle and Swamp Magic today. Got Naptown a week ago. Have some Speedrun beans coming Monday. I gotta quit, I'm becoming a seed hoarder.

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lol you can never have too many beans

Just received some photo beans from exotic genetix . Packaging and extras are phenomenal as well . Can’t wait to run the GYAT and apes in space . I’m very curious about the laser bomb and Halloween deluxe as well ,

these guys definitely all go above and beyond for their customers , and I’ll be a returning customer for Ben daz and EG for a long time !!

increased the solution to 1000 ppm , which was 70% of recommended light feeding from canna coco , with hard water . I also added great white myco , roots exculerator gold and epsom salts . I did this yesterday afternoon , and they are definitely exploding . I plan to do some light defoliating , to allow light into lower branches . I want to maximize yield as much as possible this grow . Keeping humidity around 60% right now and lights off temps are 73-75* lights on 82-84* .

I was going to do some lst on them and still may but right now they’re just kind of doing their own thing and it’s working !
Co2 is a steady 900-1100 ppm with lights on , which I believe is attributing to their rapid fast growth .

I don’t have a dehumidifier yet, but with freezing temps inbound and insanely low humidity , I don’t believe that’ll constitute too much of an issue . If I need one I’ll get one for sure .

After heavy defoliation , this lady exploded , as well as the boss battle next to it .

I have a feeling I’ll come very close to my goal this time around. it doesn’t look like 9 gallon pots for a 4 week old plant that’s for sure