NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

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WWShadow

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Lookin' good Serapis! I gotta ask, how much heat does one of your overhead LED's put out? Using the twisty CFL's & heat is problem. It's a small cab I'm working on converting 20" X 25" X 72"
I was thinking about sticking a cmh in there but I would have to use a cool tube or make my own small cool tube. Then I remembered you with your LED grow. I've considered LED's but the cost is up there, however investment wise if it solves the excess heat issue then it'll be more than worth it. I was looking at HTG & they have the 90w ufo a 120w & the 300w. You have the 300 right? would the heat be too much for that size space (it's vented) the cab is gonna be split top for seadlings or clones & moms & the bottom to veg/flower. I don't have it all wowrked out yet but I found that just seven 26 watt cfl bulbs really heats that thing up. I'm hoping you'll tell me that the LED is the answer. if not then I think I just need to look at a larger cab & invest in the cool tube.
happy growing!
 
luckyskindaguy

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There are always lessons you learn as you go. It is often the little things that are overlooked, then later you feel like a retard, lol. Hang in there and add it to "experience". The task now is to not make the SAME mistake over and over.

How long until you have some plants on a flowering schedule?
 
Serapis

Serapis

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WWShadow said:
Lookin' good Serapis!

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I'm hoping you'll tell me that the LED is the answer. if not then I think I just need to look at a larger cab & invest in the cool tube.
happy growing!
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If you are growing for yourself and not needing to grow more than 3 plants, I think the UFO is an excellent choice for cabinets. I have two of the 120 tri-bands and some cheap light on the walls for side lighting.


I'm attempting to keep it 100% LED. They do stay cool, but you'll still need to move air. I have a powered exhaust fan up high on the wall near my ceiling and a passive intake down low in a room that stays 76 degrees.

try to get the 120w for around 250 at auction. It's a nice light. tri- or quad band.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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luckyskindaguy said:
There are always lessons you learn as you go. It is often the little things that are overlooked, then later you feel like a retard, lol. Hang in there and add it to "experience". The task now is to not make the SAME mistake over and over.

How long until you have some plants on a flowering schedule?
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That is exactly correct. If I kill the next set of clones the same way I'll keep buying seeds.... I need one of those clone machines.... maybe for Christmas? Haha

The flowering depends on fast these seedlings catch up. They are already on their 2nd true node and I see the 3rd already coming out. The spacing is tight as hell! :) These Bubleicious will make some nice tight buds. I'll transplant them soon and get em in some feeding soil.
 
luckyskindaguy

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Serapis said:
That is exactly correct. If I kill the next set of clones the same way I'll keep buying seeds.... I need one of those clone machines.... maybe for Christmas? Haha

The flowering depends on fast these seedlings catch up. They are already on their 2nd true node and I see the 3rd already coming out. The spacing is tight as hell! :) These Bubleicious will make some nice tight buds. I'll transplant them soon and get em in some feeding soil.
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Nah! you don't need a special cloner. I had really poor luck at first, but once you get a method that works it's a cake walk. Just make sure you keep them moist! I lift my lid 2-3 times a day and just blow on the leaves to give them air circulation. I never risk leaving the dome off until I see roots spreading out.

Too bad the clones didn't make it though. Hope we see some buds soon :D
 
stelthy

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mr2shim said:
That's a nice setup, I'm jealous..

Is that a TV monitor up top?
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Hi mr2shim, thanks man :) Yeah kinda... its a night-vision CCTV monitor.. 'so when I want to check on the girls and read the thermometer temp's, I can do so without opening the unit and releasing her potent smell's :) baring in mind my wife's pregnant and has a hyper sensitive nose, and it also helps keep my setup 'STEALTH' The whole unit is covered in Chopper-Stopper and once finished will be painted jet black all over to tidy it up etc :) Glad you like my work... The pic above that was my 1st project (The one Serapis was interested in :) ) And that gave me over 7 Oz from 2 plants under 2X 90watt LED UFOs and an envirolite/envirogrow horticultural light, my new unit is more HID focused for HID experimenting but I have 5 large CFL cups in there so I may use those and I still have my led lights, so have lots to keep me occupied.

I really like what serapis has done with his grow space, its along the lines of what I'd try to achieve if I went 100% LED its a very nice clean organised setup, .. and as the saying goes you only get out what you put in, This is one of MY favourite threads at the mo, I look forward to seeing his progress.

Peace - STELTHY :leaf:
 
umm....chris

umm....chris

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Serapis sub'd shits tight
im thinking of getting a 120w too
it would be sick in my cab
because of heat issues with a hid
 
soop

soop

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Everytime I see your pics ... with those side lights ... all I can think of is ...

DISCO! DISCO!
 
TheJointProject

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hey serapis! sorry to hear about the clones brother. Sucks. I was having the same trouble for the longest time. I had a clone success rate of about 10% or so until I found this:
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/103903-best-diy-ez-walmart-dwc.html
Costs about $15 to make and every single cutting I put in there roots within 7-10 days max. From there you can put them into soil or any other medium you wish. Worked wonders for my grow and my confidence. Not tryin to say you don't know what you're doing, just trying to offer some help. Everything else is lookin great tho! Every time you update it gives the LED scene a little more solid ground to stand on. Keep it up!
 
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tranquility

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\damn..thats legitt!...i wanna do somthing like that with my 150w hps but im having trouble finding a cheap armoire, or locker, tv stand lol
 
a9ymous

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This is a really nice setup, serapis. It makes me want to invest in at least a UFO from HTG. I did an LED grow last year, one of my first real attempts, in a cabinet; had three 14w on the back and sides, and one 45w and one 50w at top (all square panels). It actually did a pretty well but went herm, as so much bagseed will, and it was rangy even when vegging under strong CFLs (so I know it wasn't stretching for light, just a tall strain). I am just finishing a batch of autos under an HTG compact t5 (2 ft 4 tube) fixture, using some LED sidelights, but really want to try an all-LED grow again with some of the decent seed I've got now.

Like you I found that the heat output was next to nothing and all plants seem to like the light, if they're quality LED bulbs. And I wanted to be able to put it on a small battery backup system (like 1 marine battery) because we have outages in this area so often, never got around to it but I think it could be done easily. There are a lot of advantages to going this way and threads like this are great to see.

Keep the pics coming! Those girls look happy :)
 
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man i just read every single post in this thread, and i must say that the grow room looks absolutely amazing! ill be starting my own soon enough and had been wondering wether or not to use LED's but keep it up man! ;D
 
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Serapis said:
Let me start briefly shouting out to all the others that have gone out before me and posted journals, guides and tips. I have lurked and studied for nearly 2 years and finally made the move. I ordered 10 feminized Bubbleicious seeds from Nirvana as well as a germ kit and fert tabs to cover germination and feeding while in vegetative growth.

I decided to go LED simply because this is a stealthy set up without a high power bill or heat and heat signatures that can be picked up easily by police chopper cams. This set up stays at 84 degrees with fans off.

The closet is a walk in, 52" x 72". I am only using 2' x 52", however on two levels. The level below will be air tight and utilize 4 x 40w T8 Cool White 4100k 4' that sit right on top of cuttings or seedlings. The top shelf and the front of the bottom will be finished with insulation board. A 6" duct brings air in from outside closet near floor level. The baffle on the diffuser is adjustable, so I can somewhat control air temp inside by increasing or decreasing air flow. Ventillation will be passive/aggressive with timed air flushes of 10 minutes per hour.

Intake air is drawn in through diffuser by a 6" inline Home Depot duct fan that pulls 160 CFM into the lower veg space. A 6" wall pass through fan will draw exhaust out into an adjoining master bath room near the ceiling.

I've covered the rear wall of grow space with 12" x 12" LED panels bought off of eBay. These things are bright. They were plugged in and tested, then fastened to wall using velcro tape with a super strong adhesive on backs. I have a couple of 120W HTG TRiband LED overhead lights on the way, hopefully by Monday. The walls closet adjoins to are cinderblocks and concrete. Room doubles as a storm shelter.

Comments are very welcome. I intend to clone and grow cuttings below and have 3 cycles flowering above. Please don't advise me to use other lights. I've made the investment and I'll suffer a slightly smaller yield.

I'm using 3 totes that each have 6 6" black pots. Fox Farm soil for vegging plus the sol tab from Nirvana means I can veg for 3-4 weeks without feeding. I'll flush soil when I move to flowering and begin a liquid, low Nitro, high Phospherous diet for the flowering stage.

More to come on the build. Here is what i have so far....


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Hey man can you tell me a bit more about your ventilation? Is your intake the 6" inline BOOSTER fan from homedept? and is the exhaust fan the same? You have a nice setup there and I am looking to do something similar for my flowering room! Let me know.

Thanks
 
Serapis

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BC Bud Box said:
Here's mine...
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Dude, that shit is tight!!!! Great looking cabinet! Thanks for sharing! You should be VERY proud of that as I'm sure you are.

TheJointProject said:
hey serapis! sorry to hear about the clones brother. Sucks. I was having the same trouble for the longest time. I had a clone success rate of about 10% or so until I found this:
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/103903-best-diy-ez-walmart-dwc.html
Costs about $15 to make and every single cutting I put in there roots within 7-10 days max. From there you can put them into soil or any other medium you wish. Worked wonders for my grow and my confidence. Not tryin to say you don't know what you're doing, just trying to offer some help. Everything else is lookin great tho! Every time you update it gives the LED scene a little more solid ground to stand on. Keep it up!
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Thanks TJP. I appreciate that link. I'm a soil man and my first step into hydro will be that clone box! That's perfect size for me.

tranquility said:
\damn..thats legitt!...i wanna do somthing like that with my 150w hps but im having trouble finding a cheap armoire, or locker, tv stand lol
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Hey Tranquility, keep an eye on your Craig's list. There is bound to be something in there.

GreenNerd420 said:
Ooo. Red chains! That's sweet!
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You never cease to amaze me bro....

a9ymous said:
This is a really nice setup, serapis. It makes me want to invest in at least a UFO from HTG. I did an LED grow last year, one of my first real attempts, in a cabinet; had three 14w on the back and sides, and one 45w and one 50w at top (all square panels). It actually did a pretty well but went herm, as so much bagseed will, and it was rangy even when vegging under strong CFLs (so I know it wasn't stretching for light, just a tall strain). I am just finishing a batch of autos under an HTG compact t5 (2 ft 4 tube) fixture, using some LED sidelights, but really want to try an all-LED grow again with some of the decent seed I've got now.

Like you I found that the heat output was next to nothing and all plants seem to like the light, if they're quality LED bulbs. And I wanted to be able to put it on a small battery backup system (like 1 marine battery) because we have outages in this area so often, never got around to it but I think it could be done easily. There are a lot of advantages to going this way and threads like this are great to see.

Keep the pics coming! Those girls look happy :)
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Thanks for the kind words my man! I have one plant that's looking all iffy on me now, twisted leaves and shit but no discoloration. It looks different from my other plants, I don't believe it is a Bubleicious.

Plantsrfun said:
Hey man can you tell me a bit more about your ventilation? Is your intake the 6" inline BOOSTER fan from homedept? and is the exhaust fan the same? You have a nice setup there and I am looking to do something similar for my flowering room! Let me know.

Thanks
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Hi Plantsrfun, I'll be happy to.

The intake is pretty much passive, but I do have a 6" inline 160 FM drawing in air from 6" above the floor so gets the cold stuff. The exhaust is within 6" of the ceiling and is a Home Depot 6" wall pass through that is somewhere in the 400 cfm range (to keep negative pressure in grow room). This is an ideal fan for those with no attic space, such as a first floor closet. I vent into my master bath and that br door is sealed. I have the window cracked in the bath room and my back yard is starting to smell good. I also have a 6" HTG inline blowing cooler air from flouro nursery into the LED chamber.

It's amazing how strong these Bubleicious are smelling, even in veg. I got these because they were kinda low odor I assumed, lol.

The exhaust fan is an order only item from the HD. I've pictured it below so you can see the manufacturer pic.
 
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