New cross suggestions

farmerEd

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Thanks for clearing that up...I was wondering what the difference was from those 3...and yea dhog is def. where it's at..gotta love that chem dog!! Those should be some stinky ass plants
 

MG Canna

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So to clarify even further.......
These are all my own creations, some of them obviously need more tuning, but I'm getting close on several crosses to having what I want, as far as quality seeds go. Many of the crosses have similar mother and father strains. I did this so I could for example, cross the Blue Sour Kush with the Bluehead OG......(Blue Dream x Sour OG)) x ((Blue Dream x Deadhead OG). When I think about certain crosses, I made sure that some of the plants used came from the same line of genetics. I believe that plants crossed this way have more vigor than crosses with no genetic relation. I back crossed the Blue Dream and the SFV OGF4 used in both the SOG and DHOG. Sour Diesel and Chemdog come from the same genetic background, so again, many of the same traits these two already carry will be back crossed to each other as well, in theory. I believe that making sub-crosses to use in other crosses help stabilize the cross. Two or three SIBs and I'm good to go. Anyway, here's the list.

Lemon Chem Kush (Aurora Indica x Deadhead OG)
Bluehead OG (Blue Dream x Deadhead OG)
Uncle John's Headband (Sour OG x Vanilla Kush)
Blue Sour Kush (Blue Dream x Sour OG)
Deadhead Cheese (Dinafem cheese x Deadhead OG)
Death Valley Kush (Chem Valley Kush x Deadhead OG) N/A
Lemon Diesel 91 (Lemon Diesel x Deadhead OG)
Cheranchula (Cherry OG x Blue Dream) only available to those who I have spoken with already!
Marble Mt. OG (Sour OG x Emerald Jack)
Frostbite Kush (
Motivation x Pineapple Xpress) x Cherry OG)
Cherry Afghan Thai ( Cherry OG x Cheese)
Funk -a- Chunk (Motivation x Pineapple Xpress) x Cheese)
PK Kong BX1 ( Motivation x Pineapple Xpress) x
Pineapple Xpress)
Pike's Peak Diesel (Blue Dream x Sour OG) x Deadhead OG)

G-Summit BX1 (Pike's Peak Diesel x Sour Cream)
Brooklyn Heights BX1 Sour Genes (Pike's Peak Diesel x sour OG)
Brooklyn Heights BX1 Blue Jeans (Pike's Peak Diesel x Blue Dream)

These Strains are what I am working on and most excited about. I have only one BX so far. ASA I get these finished, I will be calling all the Blue Dream, SFV OG, Diesel and Chemdog fans to test these for me, so stay tuned as these will be coming out for the new year.

G-Summit BX2(Pike's Peak Diesel x Sour Cream) x Sour Cream) x Sour Cream)
Mt. Grown BX2 (Pike's Peak Diesel x Larry OG) x Larry OG)x Larry OG)
Brooklyn Heights BX2(Pike's Peak Diesel x sour OG) x Sour OG)
Blue Jeans BX2(Pike's Peak Diesel x Blue Dream) x Blue Dream)
Lemon Chem Kush IBL3 (LCK x LCK) x LCK) x LCK)
E's OG (Larry OG x Sour Cream)) x (( Larry OG x Sour Cream)) x ((Sour Cream)

Happy dreams!!!!
 

chef c

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Damn, your doing things right for sure. makes me glad that we have another breeder in the group. Thanks for your contributions.
 

MG Canna

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Thank you, Chef. I don't like to do things half assed. Not when I'm giving seeds to people. If I strive for the best, I end up with something pretty damn good!:bigjoint:

Ed- I haven't heard of the cherry pie but I will ask some friends who live there about it. Is it NorCal or SoCal??

Cherry OG (Cherry Thai x AK-47) x AK-47) x (Lemon Thai x Pakistani Hash Plant x Chemdog 4) I believe this last grouping is the SFV OG Kush, but Emerald Triangle Seeds call it the Loast Coast OG. There are only a few phenos so the cross is pretty stable.

Bad news.....vials came w/out caps so give me a little longer. Very sorry about this but bags arent the best...
 

farmerEd

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Nvm it was mislabeled.... Cherry pie is Grand Daddy Purple x Durban Poison x Og Kush...and I believe SoCal
 

MG Canna

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Damn that sounds good. I'm excited to grow the GDPs. I've heard it's the same thing as Grape Ape....any truth to that?
 

farmerEd

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Yea the cherry pie sounds crazy, its the new fad in cali...Not sure about GDP thing, it's been a while since I've had the real deal but from my experience the gdp smelled/tasted like fuity pebbles...the grape ape not so much lol...but I just smoked the last of my grape ape and boy did that stuff make me silly :-P

I was thinking I'd like to find a nice chocolope or chocolate rain male to cross with your cheranchula...I think that would be interesting..Or maybe that og #18 hmm
 

chef c

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Iced heard the same thing about pk, gdp, and ga. A bunch of renaming in norcal around a grapey indica...
 

MG Canna

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Ed--The OG 18s are fem'd, but I grew out the one that I have now, which is fem'd with no herms and it's still my favorite bud. Who doesn't like big chunky nugs of sour Chemdog?? For my likings, I haven't found a better plant yet. I never thought about crossing Blue Dream with the 18, but I already crossed the BD to a Sour D and Chemdog crosses........why not take the Chemdog or Sour D cross, instead of a pure BD, and find a nice male to hit the 18 with? I guess the Cherry OG also has Chem 4 in it so...... The problem is I only have a few of those seeds and they are for the most part, all offered out already.


Chef--That's what I've heard and that came from the source of the beans. I'm not going to get into the source for reasons of respect, but I can say I am dieing to plant those GDPs. I love plants with grape or blueberry flavors. Those types of buds usually make me hungry and I have appetite issues, meaning those are usually a little bit more medicinal compared to the sativas I often grow. The more I use it as a medicine, the less I like the super trippy sativa high. Thats why I have two very different paths I am taking with me breeding. One is for all the potheads out there, and that being to create the highest levels of THC in a MMJ plant. The other is to create a medicine that gives people the benefits of the indica without all the sleepiness. The Blue Dream is a plant that does it all for me. That's why I like to use it in crosses. It's buzz to me, is like Sour Cream, which is very giggly bud, but with the added muscle relaxation. The bubble hash made from Aurora Indica is black and oily.....very high in CBDs. I think OG's are mostly Sativa but I 'm not sure about Chemdog..
 

farmerEd

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Yea I was just really high last night and couldn't get that cheranchula x og cross out of my mind so I had to post it lol

Also Ive been thinking about doing a DNA/ reserva purchases but am super Leary of fem seeds...am I being stupid or should I try to find the reg. versions? Which some don't seem to exist any more
 

chef c

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Fem'd seeds really are a great option. All cannabis has the tendency to herm, it's part of the program. To keep things going ya kno. We control this by finding phenos least likely to do that, giving them an ideal environment and so on. And it's not fool proof. I'm sure there are many growers who could offer a story about how they paid top dollar for a strain they had been looking at for awhile, got it, spent time and hard work making it the perfect specimen to take to flower only to find nanners in week five, on this forum. Fem'd seeds are great in that they are the ideal pheno locked up in seed. EC had some really wonderful durbin fem'd that went like a scalded dog! I think they're great if you really want that specific pheno and don't have a bunch of space to look for it. No one has proven that they (cs method) herm any more than regular seeds, that they are any less potent, or less vigorous or flavorful for that matter. Just that there is less variation. I say go for it.
 

chef c

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Ed--The OG 18s are fem'd, but I grew out the one that I have now, which is fem'd with no herms and it's still my favorite bud. Who doesn't like big chunky nugs of sour Chemdog?? For my likings, I haven't found a better plant yet. I never thought about crossing Blue Dream with the 18, but I already crossed the BD to a Sour D and Chemdog crosses........why not take the Chemdog or Sour D cross, instead of a pure BD, and find a nice male to hit the 18 with? I guess the Cherry OG also has Chem 4 in it so...... The problem is I only have a few of those seeds and they are for the most part, all offered out already.


Chef--That's what I've heard and that came from the source of the beans. I'm not going to get into the source for reasons of respect, but I can say I am dieing to plant those GDPs. I love plants with grape or blueberry flavors. Those types of buds usually make me hungry and I have appetite issues, meaning those are usually a little bit more medicinal compared to the sativas I often grow. The more I use it as a medicine, the less I like the super trippy sativa high. Thats why I have two very different paths I am taking with me breeding. One is for all the potheads out there, and that being to create the highest levels of THC in a MMJ plant. The other is to create a medicine that gives people the benefits of the indica without all the sleepiness. The Blue Dream is a plant that does it all for me. That's why I like to use it in crosses. It's buzz to me, is like Sour Cream, which is very giggly bud, but with the added muscle relaxation. The bubble hash made from Aurora Indica is black and oily.....very high in CBDs. I think OG's are mostly Sativa but I 'm not sure about Chemdog..
I love where your head is at mg! I think you're right about og/sativa stuff unites otherwise specified by the breeder.. But like the larry totally sativa.. But the dbog is indica I think... I just love indica tho. For me it's the best, knee pain, sleep, anxiety, munchies (although I've been eating really healthy and have put on like forty lbs since the beginning of the year, plus kung fu and walking and riding my bike too) bhut ya I love what your breeding, the work you're doing and think it's great for the community. Keep up the good work man!
 

Medshed

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Fem'd seeds really are a great option. All cannabis has the tendency to herm, it's part of the program. To keep things going ya kno. We control this by finding phenos least likely to do that, giving them an ideal environment and so on. And it's not fool proof. I'm sure there are many growers who could offer a story about how they paid top dollar for a strain they had been looking at for awhile, got it, spent time and hard work making it the perfect specimen to take to flower only to find nanners in week five, on this forum. Fem'd seeds are great in that they are the ideal pheno locked up in seed. EC had some really wonderful durbin fem'd that went like a scalded dog! I think they're great if you really want that specific pheno and don't have a bunch of space to look for it. No one has proven that they (cs method) herm any more than regular seeds, that they are any less potent, or less vigorous or flavorful for that matter. Just that there is less variation. I say go for it.
Fem seeds make a lot of sense in states like Colorado with ridiculously low plant limits.
 

ColdArmySoldier

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I personally don't think CS fem seeds are bad at all either. Most people who have read any literature on cannabis (or any genetics for that matter) would agree that a hermaphroditic plant passes on those traits (mentioned several times in the Botany of Marijuana book). However, CS plants do not turn hermaphroditic (producing both male and female flowers), they turn male. From what I understand, CS simply blocks the female flowering hormones which makes the male (and male only) flower hormones dominant. I think the big problem with fem is that companies are producing them using less expensive stress methods causing hermie traits to pass down and giving all fem seeds a bad name. Be aware that the information above was from the internet and I have no idea if it is actually true, but it sounds good :) Luckily I am fortunate enough to have the room to do a pheno hunt with regular seeds so I will probably stick with them for a while, although those Durban fem beans sound awesome.
 

farmerEd

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I have the room too, it's just most of the companies now don't even sell reg. beans anymore lol it's like I've pretty much got all of the tga gear I could ever want but like I said there's a lot of strains I want to try that are only fem. so I guess I'll just bite the bullet and try it out...hopefully. I Don't get blessed with a bunch of herm pollen
 

MG Canna

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Well, I'm down to try it to see what happens to my Blue Dream...why not?? I've been wanting to do CS for years now. If they turn out like shit, I'll throw them out..easy enough. If they don't, the whole world will be turned on to the Dream..

Speaking of dreams....this came to me last night in one...

"Double Down Kush"
Sour Lemons x Lemon Chem Kush!

Sour Lemons:
Lemon Diesel (Mexican Sativa x Afghan) x SFV OG) x SFV OG) x SFV OG) x
Deadhead OG ('91 Chemdawg(skunk va) X SFV OGK F4)

X

Lemon Chem Kush:
Aurora Indica ( Northern Lights 5 x Afghan) x
Deadhead OG ('91 Chemdawg(skunk va) X SFV OGK F4)

I hope that makes a little sense..

final product: "Double Down Kush"

(Mexican Sativa x Afghan) x SFV OG) x SFV OG) x SFV OG)) x (('91 Chemdawg(skunk va) X SFV OGK F4))) x ((( Northern Lights 5 x Afghan)) x (('91 Chemdawg(skunk va) X SFV OGK F4)

If this doesn't produce a keeper, what the heck will???
 
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