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MrTopSodaPop

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alright guys i tried to start a grow a few weeks back but they got eaten, now im trying again but need some help i have all the seeds i want on the way (should be here in a few days) so heres what i need help with

1) so i just watched a video about topping a plant but cant find any info on what it was the video didn't really tell me

2) now that i know what topping is i need help with her under 2m but getting the most out of her ant tips on what i should do ?

3)i reared that you stop giving her food at one point when is that ? and that when you stop you only water for a week then cut her down is that what i should do ?

4) i also reared that before cutting her down you keep her in the dark for 3-4 days what dose that do? and should i do that ?

5)i don't know when to cut her down or how to cure if someone can tell me that would be amazing or link a video on how to thanks



that's about all i can think of thank you for helping me with this
 
GreenThumbsMcgee

GreenThumbsMcgee

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man! this is a lot of questions to tackle at once....most these things you are talking about are all late stage issues. maybe cross that bridge when you get to it...as far as curing goes anyway. now topping...I do this to every plant I grow, because I also have height limitations. here is a really good diagram the shows
the difference between "fimming" and "topping"....this was VERY helpful to me.
 
hayshayshay

hayshayshay

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Some growers clip the top of their plant just above the last branch formation during third or forth week of veg. The top is removed by, clipping at the stem. This allows the main stem to split off into two new directions. This creates a V Shape at the top of your plant. The result is two top colas instead of one. This process can then be repeated to the new tops creating 4 tops and so on. Usually a maximum of 8. Now this is strain dependent and also depends on your growing environment. Some have a bud threshold, that can't be improved upon, because it is genetically pre determined how much it will produce. However, some strains when fully grown without topping, do not reach their bud threshold. For example blueberry. If grown without topping, you will not achieve maximum bud production from the plant. Therefore, increasing your yield significantly. While some other strains don't and two top colas will share the same,volume of bud that a single cola would have produced. This also allows your plant to bush out more and grow more side branching. Also, when topping, your sending that auxin which is all that great energy to the entire plant, instead of just one main cola..dividing amongst the plant. Make all your bud it top cola material! Personally, I top every strain that I can..always increases my yield significantly! Also, make all the buds nice n cola worthy have 6 colas on one vs one cola is completely worth it! Now ot can slow your veg cycle down a couple weeks, but double the yield in some cases is more then worth it! And NEVER top in flower. You'll do more harm then good. As in the flower cycle you don't want any pruning, trimming, topping or nothing, becuase it will take those precious nutrients u require to make bud n send them elsewhere. To repair whatever you've, cut or damaged ok time for the next question...
 
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hayshayshay

hayshayshay

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As for nutrients..depending on your growing style, will determine when you stop feeding. If your growing soiless then you need 2 weeks of flushing time prior to harvest. This is done by pouring 3-4 times the amount of the container through your plant using ph adjusted water or if you dont know the size, until the water runs clear out the bott instead of yellow or brown. This lets you drain all the salts and fertilizers/nutrients that have built up,in your plant and forces it to use the stored up nutrients and startches within it. This makes for a smoother and better taste in the final product. But a good cure and dry is also very important to achieve this. If your using hydro one week flush is all u need. Organic there's not as much of a need for flush, as your both putting synthetic nutrients in her. It's all natural, and actually makes for a better taste!
 
hayshayshay

hayshayshay

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As for the dark phase before harvest..24-36 hours is all ya need. This pushes the trichome content. And always harvest in the dark, right before lights on. As in the dark cycle all the plants starches and excess nutes are sent to the roots, versus foliage (leaves ext) during the light cycle. Meaning, when you cut the plant down to hang to dry your not taking any of those harsh tasting starches, and nutes with it. Again making for vetter smoke, taste and aroma. Hope this helps! Any other questions feel free to ask. But if your just starting out, read, research and look into anything you can get your hands on. Your plants will love,you for it, and you'll love them for it, when you see all your hard work paying off in the end!!
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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GreenThumbsMcgee said:
man! this is a lot of questions to tackle at once....most these things you are talking about are all late stage issues. maybe cross that bridge when you get to it...as far as curing goes anyway. now topping...I do this to every plant I grow, because I also have height limitations. here is a really good diagram the shows
the difference between "fimming" and "topping"....this was VERY helpful to me.
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best photo I've ever seen explaining it.. I just let her go and slam her under a net..
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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hayshayshay said:
Some growers clip the top of their plant just above the last branch formation during third or forth week of veg. The top is removed by, clipping at the stem. This allows the main stem to split off into two new directions. This creates a V Shape at the top of your plant. The result is two top colas instead of one. This process can then be repeated to the new tops creating 4 tops and so on. Usually a maximum of 8. Now this is strain dependent and also depends on your growing environment. Some have a bud threshold, that can't be improved upon, because it is genetically pre determined how much it will produce. However, some strains when fully grown without topping, do not reach their bud threshold. For example blueberry. If grown without topping, you will not achieve maximum bud production from the plant. Therefore, increasing your yield significantly. While some other strains don't and two top colas will share the same,volume of bud that a single cola would have produced. This also allows your plant to bush out more and grow more side branching. Also, when topping, your sending that auxin which is all that great energy to the entire plant, instead of just one main cola..dividing amongst the plant. Make all your bud it top cola material! Personally, I top every strain that I can..always increases my yield significantly! Also, make all the buds nice n cola worthy have 6 colas on one vs one cola is completely worth it! Now ot can slow your veg cycle down a couple weeks, but double the yield in some cases is more then worth it! And NEVER top in flower. You'll do more harm then good. As in the flower cycle you don't want any pruning, trimming, topping or nothing, becuase it will take those precious nutrients u require to make bud n send them elsewhere. To repair whatever you've, cut or damaged ok time for the next question...
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very informative.. my first veg cycle went 12 weeks... then it was 10 in flower.. but resulted in filling 4x4 canopy very even..
 
hayshayshay

hayshayshay

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As for curing you want to let your plants dry until then stem almost snaps, but not quite as it will be over dry and you won't get a good cure. Grab some mason jars and dill 3/4 full or loosely. Burp (open) the jars for 15-20 mins every day for first week, second week half hour ext. As well move the bud around so it's not molding. You want A RH (relative humidity) of about 40-55% in the jars or else sweating cannot occur, as it's to dry. Over dry=chlorophyll or hay taste. This allows you to sweat the bud, letting all that aroma and flavour come through that you smelled in flower! Cure for min of Two weeks. Best cure 4-8 weeks. You can also minus drying time from your cure time. For example, 7-10 days of drying cab be minused from your total cure time.
 
m3d1c1n3man

m3d1c1n3man

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hayshayshay said:
As for the dark phase before harvest..24-36 hours is all ya need. This pushes the trichome content. And always harvest in the dark, right before lights on. As in the dark cycle all the plants starches and excess nutes are sent to the roots, versus foliage (leaves ext) during the light cycle. Meaning, when you cut the plant down to hang to dry your not taking any of those harsh tasting starches, and nutes with it. Again making for vetter smoke, taste and aroma. Hope this helps! Any other questions feel free to ask. But if your just starting out, read, research and look into anything you can get your hands on. Your plants will love,you for it, and you'll love them for it, when you see all your hard work paying off in the end!!
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that's some good info, but how exactly do you harvest "in the dark"? with a flashlight? I like to harvest right AFTER the dark period when the lights come on (so I can see) maybe i should get some night vision goggles...
 
hayshayshay

hayshayshay

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m3d1c1n3man said:
that's some good info, but how exactly do you harvest "in the dark"? with a flashlight? I like to harvest right AFTER the dark period when the lights come on (so I can see) maybe i should get some night vision goggles...
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I either use a candal or a light type in a colour spectrum that will not have an effect on them. For example Green. Then colour tie or pre mark where I will be making my cuts. Before you throw them in the longer dark period. That way I am in and out. And you always want to keep your buds drying in a nice dark, cool place. As light degrades THC, with air movement. BUT NEVER DIRECTLY on the drying buds. As this will cause them to dry to fast and will cause for some nasty tasting ganga!
 
hogbud

hogbud

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hayshayshay said:
I either use a candal or a light type in a colour spectrum that will not have an effect on them. For example Green. Then colour tie or pre mark where I will be making my cuts. Before you throw them in the longer dark period. That way I am in and out. And you always want to keep your buds drying in a nice dark, cool place. As light degrades THC, with air movement. BUT NEVER DIRECTLY on the drying buds. As this will cause them to dry to fast and will cause for some nasty tasting ganga!
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Takes a year and requires a bit of O2 as well, the bad info here just kills me LOL
 
Mr.Newbie1

Mr.Newbie1

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Well you can as well after the 3rd or so you can start bending your plant and have more that 1 main stock to top if done you will have a few :bigjoint:.just carefully duck tape a small piece to your large fan leaf over to the side of pot then wait until the side branches start coming out then do your topping :-? watch your humidity at the least keep it at 50% and vent and replace your air about evey 5 min or add Co2 and refresh the air keep temps in low 70Deg and if hydro your water around 67 Deg after about 80 Deg you will be in some root rot . And if Hydro a lots of air stones and keep it recirculating;) good luck
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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hayshayshay said:
I either use a candal or a light type in a colour spectrum that will not have an effect on them. For example Green. Then colour tie or pre mark where I will be making my cuts. Before you throw them in the longer dark period. That way I am in and out. And you always want to keep your buds drying in a nice dark, cool place. As light degrades THC, with air movement. BUT NEVER DIRECTLY on the drying buds. As this will cause them to dry to fast and will cause for some nasty tasting ganga!
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Huh??? A candle lol. Come on, really, a candle??? There goes a finger lol.
 
hayshayshay

hayshayshay

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hence why they,are premarked ready for cuts. Love when people start unessaccary drama on a herb site. Never met a bigger bunch of tempramental Stoner drama queens! This place is for help, not negativety! Unless your writting paragraphs to help people seeking knowledge, then keep your oppinions to yourself. Rather then throwing in your negative, comments. It's always the same people doing it, in different threads. It seems the ones that start drama have the least,amount of good knowledge to offer and just like to hear themselves talk.
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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hayshayshay said:
hence why they,are premarked ready for cuts. Love when people start unessaccary drama on a herb site. Never met a bigger bunch of tempramental Stoner drama queens! This place is for help, not negativety! Unless your writting paragraphs to help people seeking knowledge, then keep your oppinions to yourself. Rather then throwing in your negative, comments. It's always the same people doing it, in different threads. It seems the ones that start drama have the least,amount of good knowledge to offer and just like to hear themselves talk.
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If thats directed at me I'm sorry if I offended anyone but my god! Trim plants by candle light! I had to say something! It seems to me that some things do merit rebuttal. That IMO is not a very helpful comment to begin with. Debate is a good thing IMO. Could I have reworded it? Yup and again sorry if offence taken!
 
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MrTopSodaPop

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come on guys keep it down please

look im just trying to work out what i should so i really dont want to miss this up as i can not pay for more seeds due to school fees this is why im doing this, sell to friends and make some more money so i dint have to worry about it
 
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