New growth everywhere but up !!!

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

What’s up guys... growing autos for the 1st time... 30days in ... they’re in 5gal containers, under 250watts of leds ... Lux & par #s are great... I’m getting tons of new growth throughout the plant ... but it’s pretty much stopped growin at 5” for the last week or so ... I even tried flushing Incase it was Nuet locked out but nothings changed ... any ideas ??? Also I’m running 20/4 & the pics are right after the dark phase so they may be a Lil droopy but overall both plants look healthy... just not growing

PadawanWarrior · Mar 4, 2021

Raise the light.

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
Raise the light.

It’s at the recommended height of 24” ... 1 plants 3” & the other is 5” ... it’s 24” from the 5” canopy

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

PadawanWarrior said:
Raise the light.

In theory I should be entering flower this week & it recommending to move it down to 12-16 ... Soooooo idk if I should just scrap these 2 bc I’m running outta time ... seed breeder says 8weeks flat from soil to harvest ... these autos are tricky for being “maintenance free”

PhishPhood16 · Mar 4, 2021

StonerSteveG13 said:
In theory I should be entering flower this week & it recommending to move it down to 12-16 ... Soooooo idk if I should just scrap these 2 bc I’m running outta time ... seed breeder says 8weeks flat from soil to harvest ... these autos are tricky for being “maintenance free”

Yeah, throw that 8 weeks flat out the window.

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

PhishPhood16 said:
Yeah, throw that 8 weeks flat out the window.

They’re autos ... are you sayin they won’t be done flowering by the 8th week... or just scrap the plants altogether & throw them out the window lol ?

farmingfisherman · Mar 4, 2021

Plant looks scared... Environment and light intensity issues?

jcdws602 · Mar 4, 2021

If that ppfd is accurate its too high. Start around 200ish and slowly increase up to 550ish. Check out this chart it is a good guideline for ppfd, humidity, and vpd for the various stages of a plant's life cycle.

Highlife42 · Mar 4, 2021

Humidity needs to go up for sure. I saw ~40%.. Least 65% in this stage

Doug Dawson · Mar 4, 2021

StonerSteveG13 said:
What’s up guys... growing autos for the 1st time... 30days in ... they’re in 5gal containers, under 250watts of leds ... Lux & par #s are great... I’m getting tons of new growth throughout the plant ... but it’s pretty much stopped growin at 5” for the last week or so ... I even tried flushing Incase it was Nuet locked out but nothings changed ... any ideas ??? Also I’m running 20/4 & the pics are right after the dark phase so they may be a Lil droopy but overall both plants look healthy... just not growing View attachment 4843842 View attachment 4843843 View attachment 4843844 View attachment 4843845 View attachment 4843848

As Padawan said, raise the light. Forget what the company recommends, you want them to stretch. Also throw out the package, those time lines breeders give you are usually total bull shit. You really need to raise the humidity as well. Also throw out your phone light app, read the plants not your screen, it knows best what it wants. Good luck.

PhishPhood16 · Mar 4, 2021

Don't follow breeders harvest times, a plant is ripe when it's ripe.

Cvntcrusher · Mar 4, 2021

StonerSteveG13 said:
They’re autos ... are you sayin they won’t be done flowering by the 8th week... or just scrap the plants altogether & throw them out the window lol ?

Theyre autos.

THEY COULD GO 115+ DAYS.

You gotta do more homework man. You can't read one or two things and be done with it. You have to compare the data and anything you're unsure of you HAVE to find that information.

Otherwise you end up...

Right. Here.

They MIGHT be done by the 8th week of flowering. But thats not 8 weeks from sprouting like you are expecting.

Doug Dawson · Mar 4, 2021

Cvntcrusher said:
Theyre autos.

THEY COULD GO 115+ DAYS.

You gotta do more homework man. You can't read one or two things and be done with it. You have to compare the data and anything you're unsure of you HAVE to find that information.

Otherwise you end up...

Right. Here.

They MIGHT be done by the 8th week of flowering. But thats not 8 weeks from sprouting like you are expecting.

Good point. Grow journals are much better guidelines than breeder claims.

KootenayDIY · Mar 4, 2021

Those are some very immature plants at 30 days. Something is wrong with its environment for sure. The leaf structure is whack. For autos they look like week 2
They haven’t shot any hairs yet so your still vegging. Simplify things raise light or dim it and lightly feed until it starts bouncing back

KootenayDIY · Mar 4, 2021

74 degrees is also too cold for good growth with led. I found it to be the most important environmental element to control to get vigorous growth under led

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

Cvntcrusher said:
Theyre autos.

THEY COULD GO 115+ DAYS.

You gotta do more homework man. You can't read one or two things and be done with it. You have to compare the data and anything you're unsure of you HAVE to find that information.

Otherwise you end up...

Right. Here.

They MIGHT be done by the 8th week of flowering. But thats not 8 weeks from sprouting like you are expecting.

Like I said... 1st time with autos & I just went off what they said

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

KootenayDIY said:
Those are some very immature plants at 30 days. Something is wrong with its environment for sure. The leaf structure is whack. For autos they look like week 2
They haven’t shot any hairs yet so your still vegging. Simplify things raise light or dim it and lightly feed until it starts bouncing back

I will take that advice thanks !

Doug Dawson · Mar 4, 2021

StonerSteveG13 said:
Like I said... 1st time with autos & I just went off what they said

We all get that man. We all did once upon a time until we realized it was wrong most times. You are here so look to other growers for advice and to grow journals for time lines. They won't be perfect due to different environments but much closer than the breeder claims. I still have some plants that are just coming down now that were flipped to flower on Dec 1st. You can bet the breeders didn't list a 3 month plus flower cycle or they would't sell many seeds.

StonerSteveG13 · Mar 4, 2021

KootenayDIY said:
74 degrees is also too cold for good growth with led. I found it to be the most important environmental element to control to get vigorous growth under led

I’m usually in the range of 78/80 @ 65% Rh ... it drops as the tent stays open longer

Cvntcrusher · Mar 4, 2021

KootenayDIY said:
74 degrees is also too cold for good growth with led. I found it to be the most important environmental element to control to get vigorous growth under led

Good point. With LED 85⁰F ambient with the right height should bring LST to about 80-81⁰ which is perfect

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