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TaNg PeNg

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Thing is Tang you are claiming 2.5gpw which some people can't do with gavitas or sodiums.To stop any confusions maybe do a sodium grow side by side say a 250w vs the 2x75w and then compare the 2.I for 1 would like to see that done. And before you go there i have been growing for a couple of decades,and use led at home for experimenting with.I can say the penetration between the led's i own the Grownorthern is the worse.Although i am still waiting for the next defuser to come.
Also go on the other well known forum which you said yesterday" i won't go there i will get eaten alive" others are there using the GNhs1 with no wild claims,so come over and spread your knowledge.
Wish I had the room to set up another tent.
 

zippi

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Wish I had the room to set up another tent.
So why not use one of the 2 spaces you have one with the HS1's and the other with sodium.I feel the older grownorthern stuff is just Cidly and Bysen stuff generic.If you did this it would help to convince the doubters as you should get back lots more than 2.5 gpw. Or are you saying you get less yields with sodiums? It will be interesting to see it done side by side.like i have tested Hans and grow northern side by side along with 400v 600w and 1000w gavita de and some Mars reflectors.
 

TaNg PeNg

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So why not use one of the 2 spaces you have one with the HS1's and the other with sodium.I feel the older grownorthern stuff is just Cidly and Bysen stuff generic.If you did this it would help to convince the doubters as you should get back lots more than 2.5 gpw. Or are you saying you get less yields with sodiums? It will be interesting to see it done side by side.like i have tested Hans and grow northern side by side along with 400v 600w and 1000w gavita de and some Mars reflectors.
I've never grown with HPS so there would be a learning curve and my other room is different dimensions plus I wouldn't want to stop using the LEDs I have in there. I'm hoping my Timelapse camera will help convince the doubters.
 

Eraserhead

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(some of) the LEDs that the GN uses are about 55% efficient (if at the highest bin, which I doubt) at the lowest amps and lowest temps. These are almost maxed out on amps, and who knows how well they're cooled.

Plus they have lenses.

Plus they have a diffuser.

Might as well add a goat mask too....

There is no way these can do what you're saying.

Whatever...
 

TaNg PeNg

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(some of) the LEDs that the GN uses are about 55% efficient (if at the highest bin, which I doubt) at the lowest amps and lowest temps. These are almost maxed out on amps, and who knows how well they're cooled.

Plus they have lenses.

Plus they have a diffuser.

Might as well add a goat mask too....

There is no way these can do what you're saying.

Whatever...
Spectrum is shit too lol.
 

Randomblame

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A lot of headwind here, what?
But perhaps to be expected if you start with such a thread without notice.
But I have to break a lance for you because, let's not forget, 20h @ 150w is the same amount of light like 10h @ 300w. If some wants to compare it with other lights and results, you need to consider that.
Despite everything, your numbers come somewhat overstated.
Perhaps without manicure the buds and with 24% residual moisture, Lol!
I do not want to rise in here, but it raises some questions yet. Test seeds of unreleased Dutch Passion varieties finally gets not everyone!?? Anyway, definitely great plants and ensure a high enjoyment ;-)
 

zippi

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I would be willing to adjust my space TaNg PeNg and grow the exact same as you strain wise,light wise and environment wise. You would need to use only one Hs1 though as thats what i have.Then this sort of thing can be put to bed so to speak. So the offer is there if you fancy it,not as a competition or willy waving, but if you can do that and i do EXACTLY the same environment as you and nutrient's,seeds and media we should get very similar results yes?
I know you do not use sodiums so you must be quite new to growing ,i have a few decades behind me and am willing to be shown by you how to get 2.5gpw with this led.
 

TaNg PeNg

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A lot of headwind here, what?
But perhaps to be expected if you start with such a thread without notice.
But I have to break a lance for you because, let's not forget, 20h @ 150w is the same amount of light like 10h @ 300w. If some wants to compare it with other lights and results, you need to consider that.
Despite everything, your numbers come somewhat overstated.
Perhaps without manicure the buds and with 24% residual moisture, Lol!
I do not want to rise in here, but it raises some questions yet. Test seeds of unreleased Dutch Passion varieties finally gets not everyone!?? Anyway, definitely great plants and ensure a high enjoyment ;-)
Glad your enjoying the thread bro lol, I kind of introduced myself in the thread about the HS1 because my name had been mentioned and I had been lurking for a while and thought it was a good time to start a grow thread or two.
I totally get my yields sound controversial,I kind of wish they were lower so I didn't sound full of shit lol.
It's not just DP I grow bro in this very section I'm growing some Mephisto Autos. I get offered a lot of strains from a lot of breeders,I think they like my threads lol.
 

TaNg PeNg

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I would be willing to adjust my space TaNg PeNg and grow the exact same as you strain wise,light wise and environment wise. You would need to use only one Hs1 though as thats what i have.Then this sort of thing can be put to bed so to speak. So the offer is there if you fancy it,not as a competition or willy waving, but if you can do that and i do EXACTLY the same environment as you and nutrient's,seeds and media we should get very similar results yes?
I know you do not use sodiums so you must be quite new to growing ,i have a few decades behind me and am willing to be shown by you how to get 2.5gpw with this led.
Sounds like a good idea but how do we get the same clone?
 

zippi

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If you want this to happen Tang i am sure something could be arranged or are you saying that the auto seeds you use are not very stable?or i could buy the same seeds you are given and use those or do they have to many different pheno's.. Pretty sure you could come up with something from dutch passion or the mep crew,or is this a way of backing out.. its up to you ..
 
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TaNg PeNg

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If you want this to happen Tang i am sure something could be arranged or are you saying that the auto seeds you use are not very stable?or i could buy the same seeds you are given and use those or do they have to many different pheno's.. Pretty sure you could come up with something from dutch passion or the mep crew,or is this a way of backing out.. its up to you ..
Backing out? Lol I'm the one with the diary here bro lol.

The only way to determine getting the exact same phenotype is to grow from clone any experience grower would know this,growing from seed whether Auto of Photo could throw up different genetics....just look at the difference between my two blue Velvets.
 

zippi

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Don't be pedantic Tang you are coming across like a little jumped up bwoy. I do know about this pheno stuff .I just chucked it out there to see your reply and you seem to look for excuses to not do it or share much info.And i have several diary just not over here.And 2.5 gpw not many diaries around with that. Maybe you are used to cabbage when smoking.you also seem to get a dry weight quicker than other people.. Btw when i look very closely at your photos i can see some heat stress in some photo's.. Hmmm i wonder how that happens..
You also only post mainly on AFN with ya fanboys and personal mod friends.Go and try this on uk420 which you have said to me "i would get eaten alive there" i really like to see you come there,no one gives me shit but then i do not claim 2.5gpw. Maybe i will send you some regs to grow..
 

TaNg PeNg

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Don't be pedantic Tang you are coming across like a little jumped up bwoy. I do know about this pheno stuff .I just chucked it out there to see your reply and you seem to look for excuses to not do it or share much info.And i have several diary just not over here.And 2.5 gpw not many diaries around with that. Maybe you are used to cabbage when smoking.you also seem to get a dry weight quicker than other people.. Btw when i look very closely at your photos i can see some heat stress in some photo's.. Hmmm i wonder how that happens..
You also only post mainly on AFN with ya fanboys and personal mod friends.Go and try this on uk420 which you have said to me "i would get eaten alive there" i really like to see you come there,no one gives me shit but then i do not claim 2.5gpw. Maybe i will send you some regs to grow..
Your just being insulting now when all I have done is suggest we grow from clone and asked you how we could go about it,don't try and make me look a cunt. And heat stress? Care to show me the pics?
 
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zippi

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If only there was not prohibition then it would be easy to do clones and do it this way.We do not have such laws so it prob won't happen,although i do have a few mums.Pretty sure you could contact your buds at either dutch passion or the Mephisto and ask them whats the most stable they do? I would be willing to pay for mine to.
SO have you just come here as AFN is having issues like online attacks and mod's leaving and you being accused of working for Grow Northern? Does seem odd that you just suddenly spring up here spouting Grow northern stuff.Dot get me wrong i love good a diary.So are you an affiliate with Grow northern ?as you seem to be driving their sales or was till Autoflower network went all wobbly..
 
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