New Timber Magnolia

race winslow

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Just got my new Magnolia. It's a very impressive light and I'm looking to some great results with it. I'm going to use it on my next grow instead of my Fatty and see how it goes.
As usual from Timber, the build quality is outstanding. The heat management system is pretty simple but should be highly effective in dispersing heat evenly and preventing drivers and boards from overheating. The boards are mounted to heavy duty extruded aluminum plates that have added ribbing on the backside to better absorb heat. Those are then mounted to aluminum rails to further absorb heat. So, the whole frame is basically a heat sink. Given the efficiency of the boards and the heat management, the light generated should approach that of a Fatty.
Another aspect of these lights is the fact that Timber worked with Samsung to produce these boards. They were designed by Samsung for cultivation. The far-red diodes are Samsung too and are top bin diodes. There's no diode quality roulette with these boards. No counterfeits or B quality diodes.
Having individual drivers for each board is great failsafe insurance should a driver crap out. The fixture will continue to run on the remaining drivers.
Overall, while I'm biased, these lights can compete with anything on the market. The price, build quality and board integrity are second to none. In my view, Timber has just set the bar pretty high for board-based lighting fixtures. IMO, these blow HLG's out of the water.
 

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Kingkush325

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Just got my new Magnolia. It's a very impressive light and I'm looking to some great results with it. I'm going to use it on my next grow instead of my Fatty and see how it goes.
As usual from Timber, the build quality is outstanding. The heat management system is pretty simple but should be highly effective in dispersing heat evenly and preventing drivers and boards from overheating. The boards are mounted to heavy duty extruded aluminum plates that have added ribbing on the backside to better absorb heat. Those are then mounted to aluminum rails to further absorb heat. So, the whole frame is basically a heat sink. Given the efficiency of the boards and the heat management, the light generated should approach that of a Fatty.
Another aspect of these lights is the fact that Timber worked with Samsung to produce these boards. They were designed by Samsung for cultivation. The far-red diodes are Samsung too and are top bin diodes. There's no diode quality roulette with these boards. No counterfeits or B quality diodes.
Having individual drivers for each board is great failsafe insurance should a driver crap out. The fixture will continue to run on the remaining drivers.
Overall, while I'm biased, these lights can compete with anything on the market. The price, build quality and board integrity are second to none. In my view, Timber has just set the bar pretty high for board-based lighting fixtures. IMO, these blow HLG's out of the water.
Can we get some updates on your grows young sir ?
 

race winslow

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Sure, I ended up growing a couple of high CBD auto flower plants that I wasn't super concerned about the results. So, I intentionally used soil that I hadn't used before and seeds that were more than 4 years old. I was intentionally trying things outside of my normal comfort zone to see how it might impact the grow.
The strains were Med Gom by cbd crew and Sweet Nurse from sweet seeds. Both strains typically grow no more than 3ft tall and produce about 2 Oz's each. Final results were 3oz's per plant. So, yield was better than expected given that I wasn't trying to maximize yield. The soil was BioBloom 365. So, it was already amended. I gave limited supplemental nutrients as needed and flushed with Flawless Finish until the buds swelled and had milky trichomes.
As far as the light is concerned, it definitely gets the job done well.
However, a couple of caveats:
The fixture produces a LOT of heat. The aluminum frame gets hot to the touch and I measured the driver temps at one point. The highest temperature that I recorded was 120 degrees F. So, if planning to use it in a tent, some sort of cooling will be required in my opinion. I did my grow in closed 12x12 room in the summer without AC. My typical ambient temperature was 84 degrees and average humidity was 65%. The light is super bright. It drew around 700watts from the wall as measured through a killawatt wall outlet meter. In spite of the heat the light ran exceptionally well.
In order to get a more accurate perspective on the performance of the light I'm planning to do another grow in my usual RDWC system which consists of 4, 13 gallon buckets. I'll be doing that grow in late December after I finish my current photo period grow. I normally grow auto flowers in that set-up. I usually achieve about 8oz's per plant in that set-up using a Timber Fatty.
It will be interesting to see the results of that experiment given the power output and color temperature differences.
The Fatty puts out about 930 watts and it is configured with 5 1750k, 2-3k and 2-4k cobs which equates to a color temp average of 2500k. Light efficiency is approximately 2.3.
In contrast, the Magnolia puts out about 700 watts and has an average color temperature of about 3,200k. The 2.8 efficiency of the Magnolia should help with the wattage difference. I'm hoping to at least equal what I can produce with the Fatty.
So, in summary, the Magnolia is a quality build. It performed flawlessly. However, if you have heat management concerns in your grow space you need to factor how hot this fixture runs. It's not HPS/DE hot. But it definitely runs hotter than a Fatty.
 

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Kingkush325

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Sure, I ended up growing a couple of high CBD auto flower plants that I wasn't super concerned about the results. So, I intentionally used soil that I hadn't used before and seeds that were more than 4 years old. I was intentionally trying things outside of my normal comfort zone to see how it might impact the grow.
The strains were Med Gom by cbd crew and Sweet Nurse from sweet seeds. Both strains typically grow no more than 3ft tall and produce about 2 Oz's each. Final results were 3oz's per plant. So, yield was better than expected given that I wasn't trying to maximize yield. The soil was BioBloom 365. So, it was already amended. I gave limited supplemental nutrients as needed and flushed with Flawless Finish until the buds swelled and had milky trichomes.
As far as the light is concerned, it definitely gets the job done well.
However, a couple of caveats:
The fixture produces a LOT of heat. The aluminum frame gets hot to the touch and I measured the driver temps at one point. The highest temperature that I recorded was 120 degrees F. So, if planning to use it in a tent, some sort of cooling will be required in my opinion. I did my grow in closed 12x12 room in the summer without AC. My typical ambient temperature was 84 degrees and average humidity was 65%. The light is super bright. It drew around 700watts from the wall as measured through a killawatt wall outlet meter. In spite of the heat the light ran exceptionally well.
In order to get a more accurate perspective on the performance of the light I'm planning to do another grow in my usual RDWC system which consists of 4, 13 gallon buckets. I'll be doing that grow in late December after I finish my current photo period grow. I normally grow auto flowers in that set-up. I usually achieve about 8oz's per plant in that set-up using a Timber Fatty.
It will be interesting to see the results of that experiment given the power output and color temperature differences.
The Fatty puts out about 930 watts and it is configured with 5 1750k, 2-3k and 2-4k cobs which equates to a color temp average of 2500k. Light efficiency is approximately 2.3.
In contrast, the Magnolia puts out about 700 watts and has an average color temperature of about 3,200k. The 2.8 efficiency of the Magnolia should help with the wattage difference. I'm hoping to at least equal what I can produce with the Fatty.
So, in summary, the Magnolia is a quality build. It performed flawlessly. However, if you have heat management concerns in your grow space you need to factor how hot this fixture runs. It's not HPS/DE hot. But it definitely runs hotter than a Fatty.
Thanks lol I been wanting to grab me one but I think I’ll just grab me a cypress 4 for a 2x4 grow tent at 3000k, I have a lil cypress 3 I’m flowering with but it’s a 3500k, don’t get me wrong she is producing her ass off but 3000k would have been better for flowering. I have a fatty vs as well but she is put up for now lol needed the extra space but she is hell of a light wanting to upgrade to the magnolia 4 or a cypress 8 not sure yet have to wait for Timbers website to open back up smh
 

race winslow

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Thanks lol I been wanting to grab me one but I think I’ll just grab me a cypress 4 for a 2x4 grow tent at 3000k, I have a lil cypress 3 I’m flowering with but it’s a 3500k, don’t get me wrong she is producing her ass off but 3000k would have been better for flowering. I have a fatty vs as well but she is put up for now lol needed the extra space but she is hell of a light wanting to upgrade to the magnolia 4 or a cypress 8 not sure yet have to wait for Timbers website to open back up smh
I just hope Dan and company make it through whatever they're dealing with. They are really solid people.
It sounds like the Cypress is the way to go for you. I do think that 3k is the better choice.
I've been doing some reading on 10k for the last 2 weeks of the grow. Apparently, it really makes the plants extra frosty and terpy.
 
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