New to indoor soil and bubbleponics

Hay fellow humans welcome!

I have learned quite bit! and been doing great with help from may fellow humans on different threads and post's here on RIU.org and best of all! I wanted to get into hydroponics and found the bubblehead group! their a great bunch of humans which I am proud to be part of now! and if I can assist you in your endeavors of the grow just ask, if I can't give you an answer or help you! I'll do what I can to get you to someone who can.

You can check out from the begining with my first pictures of the tent and grow by clicking the below and follow right here! where I will post all new updates of my journal, posted here for now on, if you want to say hello! ask a question? get or give advise! please do so.

click it.https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/250175-new-indoor-grow-journal.html

After this grow I will relocate my journal here, Thanks

There will be new post's added here.

I had an outdoor grow going during the summer and they where something else the plants grow big and the bud's owsome, but I had big problem with bug's and it cot out of my control and half the grow went south before I got a handle on it.

As you see though I did manage to get something the bud's were big.

There are things you needed to know an learn before you begin your grow if your new to growing do your research before you spend to much More money on equipment and try new or old methods to growing, believe me I didn't passing up deals that I found later during my research in the indoor grow.

There is advise and methons, on DIY, bubbleponics, hydro, air, mist, all this is to help you succeed in your quest to the grow look into all the threads there with all the info you need an if not their are people here like myself who will help just ask.

I started out by searching for a tent for my grow and found a great deal here http://www.thelashop.com look under gardening, my 6' x 6' x 6' tent cost $189.99 deal.


I found lighting there also but frankly there are better deals to be found! look in the threads on this site the humans here post for all to use, there is a thread with posted links that have great deals I found a MH light conversion bulb for $40 that I can use in my HPS light fixture try here see if their is anything you like http://www.insidesun.com/index.php lighting!

Try this for fixutes and lighting http://www.insidesun.com/Super_Economy_400_Watt_MH_65a26e.item

No I didn't buy this one!

After I had the tent settup! which took just under 2 hours, I had seed's gremaniting and had bought 2 clones to start with, Clones where UK Cheese and a OG kush, the seed's had germinating I had found on this site, http://www.amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com 10 moroccon skunk seed's and a bag of 20 free seed's with purchase okay to start out with did find other site's with a good selections of seed's also.

So the grow started on 10/5/09 with 2 4" clones, and seed's a popping yes they where sproutting as I began putting everything to gether close yea!

I got another baby clone the next weekend for my birthday on the 11th of Oct a Bluebarry kush Yummy she's the first pic! and the 3rd pic to the right is her a day or so later but she went from rock wool to soil and she went in to shock and had to take careful care of her the middle picuter is her now 20 day's later and she is looking good.

The 2 bigger plants middle picture are the UK cheese left and OG kush right in the back row.

Here are my babbies today

The tent setup is great but be sure where you pick the spot is right place to set it up! it's there till the grow is done, upstairs is not an ideal place, heat raises to the upper levels during the summer A/C may handle it, and the heater is on during the winter, I know this because the loft was the only place that has the room for now, I do plan to move it, into the garage once I clear it of usless storage.

Foreword

As my seed's continued sproutting I expanded to 5 soil grow plants, using 1 of the free unnamed 20 bag of seed'd yet to be named, Now named Ellie's Dream not sure of the strain yet? and Moroccon skunk.

The grow started on the 5th of Oct for 2 OG and UK 2 weeks old when purchased I think? the next was sprouts within the same time frame! there behind the clone's but doing great.

The 2 pictures are left M.skunk and to the right to be named she's looking great to.

This the 25th of Oct and this there progress

Okay there is a big part missing on this journal because I didn't know there was a complete thread area for grow journals! so I started over here you can visit the original post's back on page 1 from here the top page. new to grow journal.

So I found I needed to rearrange the inside of the tent as I went on! and from the first day to now the inside has been rearranged 2 or 3 time's now here is what it's looking like now.

Yes I also had intended to use hydroponics and was looking in to it when I found the the thread for the bubbleheads sea of green and dwc Deep water culture with a twist! water feed to the plants vis water pump called BUBBLEPONICS with the claim that you can grow from the start to the finish in 10 weeks or less cool.

As you see that's set up also now also! but I do plan to move the bubble system to a separate tent or place for fear of cross contamination from the soil grow, ie pest's that can come from the soil don't need that problem.

I have been using Organacide but only a little and none on the the bubble plant ! this is why I need to move them, spraying them could mess with the water's ph or nutes (nutrients) I think?

Hello let me please! take a second to say my mother-in-law Ellie passed away today 10/25/09 12:59pm age 84, let us rejoyce in Ellie's ascension to a higher none physical form and rejoining her loved one's.

In honor of Ellie I have decide to name the 20 unnamed seed's after her, and so forth will be refered to as Ellie's Dream, Thank you Peace and Long Life..

While checking my soil plants I saw a white something very small scurry up athe main stem of one plant! I used Organicide on them and the and the soil, if anyone has any suggestions or quick fix please post it, thanks

I hope this does not becoma a problem, after this I plan on hydro only.

So it warmed up today! so had to run the A/C and put the intake venting next the air A/C vent worked out find cooled the tent, don't want to do this much as it runs up the bill.

The girls are looking great I would have posted more pictures but the camera battery died on me!

Any how the BP grow is also comen along good also! cleaned the res, water was yellow! but ph'ed okay, found it's the ph down I'm using so that's okay, thinking of adding in the other light 400wtt hps, but the electric bill came it's a bit high! mostly can't tell because of the heat wave we had for a few day's this month and running the air, I'm sure other's have higher but my quest is for lower.

So if the BP promises a better yeild than the soil grow! and lighting cost's that well be the way to go, doing both at the same time.

My outdoor grow material was a big hit, what I orignally thought went bad! was in fact okay! and turns out very very! good, I had all but written it off while it was curing in glass jurs, tried it and yea!! very good! one hit and you have a very! very! wild buzz.

Here's what real plants looks like friends, you can't beat an outdoor grow! with indoor man, you just can't! almost a full a kilo off of just 2 plants? come on be realistic friend, you'll have to provide that to me with pictures and all before I'll believe it and cost, because it cost me near to nothing in money, to do the outdoor,

But indoor growing is good also didn't get me wrong, it's just you can really grow some real huge plants outside but you have sleepless nights or pitch a tent, it's indoor to be safer and I'll figure out how make the plant full! it's just a matter of lighting.

The outdoor plant strains where Shunk strain, Diesel strain, and some kinded of kush strain it was small and very compact planI got around a 1/4 lb. off that one alone.

Oh you can find all the pictures here in my photo album. Really I had to put stacks in the ground to hold the branches up on 2 of the plants because there buds got so big.

Made 2 clones so far there laying down a bit, only time will tell! first time doing clones, used clone gel and threive A live mix, well post result later.

Well the clones are working out okay, I moved 1 babe plant out of the bubble system to a signal bubble bucket system, then moved the 2 center babe plants to the 2 end corners of the BP system so now there are 4 in the bp system, with out the the 5th plant and the 2 feeder tubes turned off there is more flow to the 4 plants, this should be good.

I used ZT for pest and funges and mold control, there are no signs of any! but there was a nat flying around, the fan's blowing on the plant's help's keep the little fly frackers off the plants, but never the less I used ZT to be sure to keep control.

The bigger plants (clones Cheese strain and OG kusk) are 24 days plus since I brought them home,the other 3 soil plants are a clone bluebarry kush, left white rino, right is ellie's dream, sorry using my iphone so I'll post better pic's when I get a bettery for my camera.

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I've noticed my ph creeping up after also! with the water ph'ed and added, there are other factors to consider also! like what may drip in from the hydoton if not cleaned thourghly and soaked or the rock wool, what I did for mine was soak them in ph'ed water for 8 hours but we also have to considered that the hydroton is made up of minerals and as long as the feeder is dripping it will continue to fluctuate the ph'ed water, there are more factors! if you put your hands in the tank, air particles within and around the tank, smoking in the area.

I read an article not sure if it was here on RIU or somewhere else! that basicly said the room should be a clean room and you should change your clothing! wash your hands cover your hair, and ware a clean suit as not to bring anything in from the outdoors or house everytime entering, everything brought in to your grow Environment has a chance to contaminate your tank and plant's soil grow or not! simply leaving you grow tent or area open the outside environment will cause change within.

Bubbleponics or hydro air, or what ever! is a manipulation of the plants and their environment, to grow quicker and hopefully more potent plant's by the nutrients feed to them, since none exist to start with! and that's the manipulation in a fully controled environment, lights, fan's, humidifers, timers and so on!

We are bubbleheads and can deal with it if someone can answer they will or have and if it was missed! if so then please post it again.

Ph'ed water in tank is holding at 6.6 and the roots have doubled from yesterday, the clones are standing up and looking healthy again , tent's holding at 75, humidity is around 45 to 50 percent, I think things are work out here so far, the plants seemd to really take off after I moved everthing around yesterday, the one moved to the bucket bubble system has began growing a bit faster to! guess it that air bath the roots got yea!.

The soil grow is going okay, I have a small problem with 2 plants in the back their, their leafs are yellowing some, not sure what's going with them yet, just going to us ph'ed water for the next few feeding's see if that help's any.

I can't seem to control the temp's in the water tank so I am planning another build, this one is with a coleman proIII, I'll be able to fit either 3 8" baskets or 4 to 6 6" or 8 4", I not sure wich I want to use right, so if I want larger plants the 3 8" or 4 6" would be logical to go that way.

The cooler has double walls that create the insutation withthe air in between the walls, but I can take that a step futher by drilling a seies of holes on all side and shooting insutation foam in between, but that is a touchy perop because the foam can expane beyond and miss it up.

But still alone the cooler should the tanks temp's for a unknow extended amount of time, should it through warmer days till it cools down for the evening.

npsant said:

I can't seem to control the temp's in the water tank so I am planning another build, this one is with a coleman proIII, I'll be able to fit either 3 8" baskets or 4 to 6 6" or 8 4", I not sure wich I want to use right, so if I want larger plants the 3 8" or 4 6" would be logical to go that way.

The cooler has double walls that create the insutation withthe air in between the walls, but I can take that a step futher by drilling a seies of holes on all side and shooting insutation foam in between, but that is a touchy perop because the foam can expane beyond and miss it up.

But still alone the cooler should the tanks temp's for a unknow extended amount of time, should it through warmer days till it cools down for the evening.

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Temp's in the tank right now are holding at about 74.8 would like to see it a little lower between 65 and 70, but it may not be possible with out a water chiller, just my opinion.

I saw this cabinet on a website selling for $500 or $600 buck or more, I took the design and duplicated just from the pictures and discription.

Outtake vent in the top, intake vent near the bottom, I plan to get a 150/175watt hps/mh light with the venting, from DH for the cabinet before they are about 2 or 3 feet tall, I just don't believe that the cfl's lighting is going to be good enough.

The Cooler project is on hold for now, I need to clean the garage and make pace, for the cabinet, the 6' x 6' x 6' tent, to chancey to have tanks with water on the upper level of the house, just a bad idea all together.

If anyone want's a system built for there grow because they just don't get it or your not very good with building and tools, and that sort of stuff, get a hold of me through here and we can make arrangements to meet only if you live locally in S.Calif, I know, I don't want you to get the wrong idea, I will help build but you, you buy the part, I just love to try and design and build stuff like this.

I got the tank and nutrients in the water and the cabinet is pretty much completed, I upgraded to a 150 watt hps, cabinet a little cooler also with the 150 hps and works out to be prefect for the size of the cabinet.

I was convinced by the owner of the hydroponics store Flora Nova is the better choice, so I went with that product line, and seem ph of the water when mixed with the nutrients brings down the ph to 6.7 range after mixing just a little adjustment needed to bring it to 6.1.

I have a few other nutrient product and each is complexed in the mixing, so why not go with a product that is highly recommended by the other tomato grower in my area, being they struggle with the same water ph in my area and use this product for that reason.

One last thing the owner of the shop instilled to me! that a more scientific approach and to rely more on scientific research than anything else.

npsant said:

I got the tank and nutrients in the water and the cabinet is pretty much completed, I upgraded to a 150 watt hps, cabinet a little cooler also with the 150 hps and works out to be prefect for the size of the cabinet.

I was convinced by the owner of the hydroponics store Flora Nova is the better choice, so I went with that product line, and seem ph of the water when mixed with the nutrients brings down the ph to 6.7 range after mixing just a little adjustment needed to bring it to 6.1.

I have a few other nutrient product and each is complexed in the mixing, so why not go with a product that is highly recommended by the other tomato grower in my area, being they struggle with the same water ph in my area and use this product for that reason.

One last thing the owner of the shop instilled to me! that a more scientific approach and to rely more on scientific research than anything else.

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After a long day I returned home to find that the plants in the bp system had grown quite a bit today after nutrients we're introduced to the plants, looking good and growing.