New to indoor soil and bubbleponics

I got everything all completed, introduced nutes, and came home from working today and found the plants have grown, 3 gained 2" and the runt is showing growth now with new leaves, pretty cool gotta say. have a look these are today, date top left corner.

The other improvement is the 150 watt mini hps system for $89.99 it is worth every penny spent on it also, I just have say I prefer hps lighting seen more growth than under all the cfl light it could take! but hps won out, I tried both and am convined, not to say that cfl doesn't work they do! it's just a hassle to hang a bunch of them over hanging 1 hps light, I will the cfl's on the sides for the under growth though, but when the time comes for them to be put to use..

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I am running a small experiment on cooling! don't know if it will work or not! but I am placing the humidifer outside the metal cabinet grow by the intake vent to see if this will help in cooling down even more! the cabinets inside temp! I noticed it first in my tent much larger area! and it seemed to help keep it cooler with the fan's blowing the air around a swamp cooler yes? I'll know in a short while and will post the result here.

npsant said:

I am running a small experiment on cooling! don't know if it will work or not! but I am placing the humidifer outside the metal cabinet grow by the intake vent to see if this will help in cooling down even more! the cabinets inside temp! I noticed it first in my tent much larger area! and it seemed to help keep it cooler with the fan's blowing the air around a swamp cooler yes? I'll know in a short while and will post the result here.

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Okay the result is that the temp did come down from 81.8 to 79.1 not a whole lot but that helps keeps it just a bit cooler by 2.7 degrees and should help if we have to run the house heater this winter or I'll just vent to the outside and pull the cool air in.

npsant said:

Okay the result is that the temp did come down from 81.8 to 79.1 not a whole lot but that helps keeps it just a bit cooler by 2.7 degrees and should help if we have to run the house heater this winter or I'll just vent to the outside and pull the cool air in.

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The humidifier does help cool! the longer it was on it cooled the cabinet down from 80.1 to when is left closed around 72.4 and has dipped down to 70.2, so it works! and it works great laeving it connected and will by another for the tent.

So I would like to Introduce tp you the mini swamp cooler! for the grow cabinet! lol.

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The plant befor the 11 3 09 had stalled out and we're not growing, the tanks temp we're going up and, got that under control tank stays in the low low 70's or just at 68.8 good deal, the nutrients have done their jub the plants have been growing like crazy show real growth progress.

Believe this or not but those plants were 5 inches shorter on the 4th of Nov, 4 days ago! this is a result of keeping on track with caring and tending, nutrients, and cool temps with in the tank, I have found that the tank temp's down the plants respond much better if the tank temp stay down around the low low 70's or 60's, my tank temp are running from 68.5 to 71.8.

Everything is working out the bubble system is working great so far.

I am planning to rework the seeds I puchase to short season, short grow time, and go for a multitple setup, consisting aeroponics and dwc+d, some material I am reading has opened my eye's to what direction I need to go, this info also is helping decide on strains! that will product faster and a greater yeild.

The sea of green yes roseman is right, but the important part is what strain of seed needed!

There are many different strains and many grow differently and grow at different rates and take different amounts of space needed, some have a long season to flowing then harvest and others have a short season to flowing and harvest, indicas have a broad general characteristics as I read! and tend to matur early.

As a result I am in the process in deciding on which strain, one I know I will go with is Northern lights, I have read and heard they have a short grow cycle and give a good yeild.

Truely Darwin was right! information is the true wealth of the world.

Day 6 of Nutrients tomorrow I will empty the tank clean it, and up the nutrients to 2 gals, (1/3) 2 galleons mixed 4 gal plan ph'ed after mixed.

Have been able to keep the tank at or around 68.04 degrees.

Todays Pic's

Here is a tip if your tank temps are above 74 degrees consistently you will have multiple problems, ph, root rot, algae so on, I have been keeping my tank temps in the 60's and low low low 70's, and all the problems I was experiencing went a way, yes it is hard to keep the temps in the 60's.

How do I do it manually! my grow box is negative presserized, so air past quickly through the cabinet pulling the hot air from the bottom up 150wtt mini hps out consistently it stay's around 71 to 74 degrees inside, temp does go up when the doors are open.

I use frozed water bottles, I have 4 bottles ready always in the freezer! and 2 already froze in the tank, after the temp comes down to around 65 degrees, I can use 1 bottle very 4 or 5 hours to keep the tank at 67.6 to 69.1 degrees, when the tank temp hits 71 to 72 degrees I change the the bottle! I'll put 2 in if the weather warms up outside or if the cabinet temp is over 76 degrees.

I have not been in bubbleponics long but this was my experience with warm tank water, ph fluctuating up, roots start to get slimmy, root rot, leaves turning yellow, stunted growth, no it's best to keep the tanks temp down in the 60's, but that's my opinion, there other factors involved, lighting, ambient temps, solve those problems and it helps in keeping the tank temps down also.

The other thing I have read was that it also depends on what region the seeds or plants come from, different regions have different weather patterns (seasons), the days are either longer or shorter or are the same every day year round, the time of year they flower and how long they will flower and bud before you should harvest, the equipment we use is a controlled enviornment and must be handled as such, we have control for the most part! and the plant are pretty flexible an resilient, so it is a good idea to understand the seeds and where they came from and there growing requirements, season and how quickly we can get them to the flower an bud stage.

Used the second res that came with bp system to use in the tank change.

I took the spare res tank I have and made sure it was clean then set it in place of the other one filled it with 3 gal plan ph'ed water and 3 gals nutes, I'll see how they do on the 3 parts plan and 3 parts nute.

I moved the bucket system to my bath room temporarily after changing the bucket from a 3 gal to 5 gal buble bucket and adding 1 gal nute's to that.

My soil grow ended up having major problems, they got spider mit's and spread quickly, at first I had thought that it was a dificiency!!

I used my 30x miroscope and found the little fucker's the plant have taken a beating from them little fuck's.

I made a trip to the local hydroponics shop, and talked with shop owner he had a special solution application that should do the job, had to sprayed on during dark period and hit thew pionics plaants to, have keep a close eye on all now that I know what to look for.

npsant said:

I got everything all completed, introduced nutes, and came home from working today and found the plants have grown, 3 gained 2" and the runt is showing growth now with new leaves, pretty cool gotta say. have a look these are today, date top left corner.

The other improvement is the 150 watt mini hps system for $89.99 it is worth every penny spent on it also, I just have say I prefer hps lighting seen more growth than under all the cfl light it could take! but hps won out, I tried both and am convined, not to say that cfl doesn't work they do! it's just a hassle to hang a bunch of them over hanging 1 hps light, I will the cfl's on the sides for the under growth though, but when the time comes for them to be put to use..

Check the pictures out.

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For the bubble bucket I made a portable grow tent! cost was around $30 and 30 minutes to build, have a look.

Changed tank water nutes at 60ml's flora grow and 3ml's of floralicious plus, 6 drops of super thrive, ppm at 1425ppm, ph is 6.1, water temp 68.4.

Bucket is 30ml grow and 3ml of floralicious plus, 3 drops of super thrive, water is 1496ppm at 6.0 ph.

Have a look at their health.

I had to expand ther grow cabinet to accommodate the plants.

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Well I had to call my soil grow a loss! the plants got infected/infested with spider mit's real bad, it got out of hand before I could do anything and it seemed as if nothing work's on them, I can't say I tried everything I spent plenty, the plant leave looked like a deficiency problem at first and for a while, I found no web when misting, I sprayed with ZT and that did nothing for the mit's, I used organacide, servin, none of these product did shit, infact the I thought it was the ZT after using it, so I cut back on nutes used ph'ed water, but it kept going, then their they were a population of spider mit's over ran the plants fast! giving me no choice but kick them outside, I had to move them outdoors! if the low temp's don't kill the plant's it should kill the spider mit's, but I can't bring them back in it would cause a disaster, to bad!

I had to strerilize the tent before I can move the bubbleponics system back to the tent! I want to get the maximum yeild out of them, by giving them more room and take under a 400watt hps instead of the 150 watt hps. I plan to start up another bp system for the extra res I had ordered, just need the net's, water pump and air pump, i am going with 3 maybe 4 net's instead if 6.

Have plan for the cloner tote and will build that later.

Updated Pictures of the plant's they be moved to the tent on Thursday where I can give them more light and expand the growth of these babbies, the bubble bucket should do great in there also.

I ended up adding in a window A/C unit to keep the room temp at or around 70 to 72 gegrees.

Had to cut anopening in the tent wall, I had checked into the portable unit's but the reviews had one thing in commen they also heat the room up, most reviews on portable A/C unit's unfavorable.

So I decided to go with the window unit.

npsant said:

I ended up adding in a window A/C unit to keep the room temp at or around 70 to 72 gegrees.

Had to cut an opening in the tent wall, I had! checked into the portable a/c unit's but the reviews had one thing in commen they all heat the room up as it tries to cool the room, most reviews on portable A/C unit's are unfavorable.

So I decided to go with the window unit I found at a place called Remartfor $73.95 6000 btu's

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Okay the a/c unit is set and keeping the room temp between 74* to 76* degrees RH at 50%, hps heat problem is solved other than the electrical bill is going to go up a bit more with the a/c running, so it has a control set called L2 timer and is a setting that has the a/c unit run 2 hrs on, and 2 hrs off with a +3 temp change will bring the a/c on to cool the room back to it's set temp and trun off again.

The latest pictures of the tent grow, tank and water changed out.

Well last night was not a good one I went to add water with nute and did 2 gals mixed as 6 in each!!! what a F" up, this morning I took out 2 gals and added plain water ph'ed.

There was harm done to the plants infact they seemed like they liked it but at this phase I want no mishaps F'ing this grow up.

Look at these mother F'ers

The plants have been in 12/12 for almost 2 weeks and I found the that they started flowering.