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FresnoFarmer

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Is brewing Guano teas for 48 hours bad? I want to get the tea really rich so I would rather brew for 48 than for 24. Is it going to be a problem?

My tea consists of 1 cup earthworm castings, 1 cup Indonesian Bat Guano, 5 tbls molasses, and 5 tbls liquid seaweed extract.
 

grownbykane

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you will have no problems with this. the brewing process really only effects the microbes that come from the castings, guanos take far longer to compost so you are basically just stirring them up.

kane
 

dante76

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I do guano tea separate of AACT.....in guano teas...you don't need to brew (some do, i don't). You just need to let it soak in water for 2 - 3 days.

They are a great combo...i'll put AACT over my plant a couple of days after feeding it the guano tea.
 

Vapekush

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From my understanding of teas, as long as is doesn't stink by time you use it you're good. It sounds like you're using plenty of molasses which will keep the microbes fed for a few days. You should be good
 

dante76

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guanos will stink alot if you brew them (bubbling). Thats why i don't do....AACT is supposed to smell "earthy" but if you add guano to your AACT it will not smell earthy...it will smell like you just dropped some kids off at the pool :)

thats why i do guano teas (soaking method) seperate from my AACT.
 

FresnoFarmer

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guanos will stink alot if you brew them (bubbling). Thats why i don't do....AACT is supposed to smell "earthy" but if you add guano to your AACT it will not smell earthy...it will smell like you just dropped some kids off at the pool :)

thats why i do guano teas (soaking method) seperate from my AACT.
I bubbled a guano tea and it smelt earthy not foul......I am bubbling one right now with 3 airstones and it is already smelling earthy, yet still not foul.
 

dante76

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well to each his own...i couldn't take the smell of bat crap bubbling...maybe it could have been the amount i used in my tea or the fact that it was real fresh...oh well.
 

SpicySativa

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Brewing for longer than the "ideal" time just shifts the proportions of different micro-beasties (fungi, bacteria, etc). I can't claim to be an expert, but with that much molasses, I'd say you're brewing a tea with primarily bacteria. If you are in flowering, you may want to brew with less (or even NO) molasses to allow the fungi to compete and thrive. Can still water in some molasses if you want, but in the tea, I'd use less.
 

MellowFarmer

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Hey Fresno did you sort any of this out i am confused :eyesmoke:AACT? brew? brew can mean steep or bubbled yet apparently one does the opposite of the other plus one smells and molasses is bad?:wall: what has society come to i mean who worries about smell when farming I mean I have never ever come across a farmer who gave a rat's ass I mean ? how long do I put the molasses and guano and earthworm into the damn water for until it is beneficial for my flowering Girlz ? how how long after that before it is not an beneficial? does leaving water overnight really take out chlorine or is it an old humboldt myth and finally if the dude down the road doesn't ph his water yet grows bomb nugs do I really need to pH my water?
 

dante76

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Most AACT recipes call for brewing (bubbling) anywhere between 24 - 48 hours...this is becuase the beneficial bacteria have enough food (molasses + oxygen) to last this long. If you plan on brewing longer than 48 hours, you may notice that the smell will change from earthy to stinky. Once again, this is because the food source has depleted and you'll need to add more molasses.

Personally, I brew for 36 hours with about 1 - 2 ounces of black strap molasses. i don't think there's a such thing as too much food but you'll notice that there will be a lot of foaming if you add more molasses.

As far as leaving water out to remove chlorine, that will depend on your area. In the metropolitan area of LA, where I live, our water has a high amount of chloramines that cannot be removed by just sitting out. I use RO water in my tea. Each year, each city provides their residence with a water report with detailed analysis of whats in your water. Check that out and Home Depot offers a free water analysis kit as well.

hope that helps.
 

Nizza

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good info on here guys. keep it upi want to do compost tea sometime soon. as far at bat guano goes though just do what everyone has been saying. The guano should be very N rich so dont go overboard. it may also take a longer brew time too so that means you need to feed in molasses. I'd reccomend just making a bat guano fert and breeding microbes seperately, with your other teas, like the others have said. Once u cut off oxygen to the tea your microbes die, so you can brew your guano till it smells or whatever then bottle it up. using this in addition to a fresh compost tea will make it not really matter if the microbes died in the guano feed because they can re-live off of it once with the plant :-) try letting the guano get smelly, add your molasses then bottle it. This will allow your compost tea to be fed further in the grow pot when u add it to your guano+molasses mix. Be sure not to add too much molasses because it will be too much sugar in the soil, and it will turn alive and eat up everything in it. just my idea on this !
 

MellowFarmer

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thanks guys but I a little confused I have never really understand the biology part I'm more of a follow directions and add love green thumb. i actually was just curious as to homemade fertilizer ideas but that got me reading all sorts of things i had never considered so this is what i do please just tell me whatever is Bad ? ! 3 year old level please i won't be offended bongsmilieflowering i basically do the guano mixed into topsoil like it says on the bucket. same with earthworm castings. i heard molasses was the shit so i throw a tblsp or so in each gal and the only preperation is the water out overnight . ?
 

Nizza

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your making the tea almost like its all being mixed in your planter bucket which is fine. Things to consider are when you pour the water in make sure its close to the temp of the medium being used. if your roots get hot through out the day your microbes are getting murdered but if you can keep the roots at a constant temperature the microbes will thrive and do almost everything done in the compost tea process. your bat guano + the molasses will feed the micro-herd. It is good to do less molasses more often because the way it breaks down in the soil. if your brewing it though the molasses will change into energy much faster. Just know there can be alot of good soil biology if you pay close attention to whats going into the pot
 

MellowFarmer

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Thank you Nizza! Okay so I don't need to add to molasses to the water early? what is actually in the compost tea? so buying an aereator is totally worth the money? is the water temp thing why it is recommended to water them early when they are waking up? that would make sense to me now but is won't the soil and water get warmer together even if they start out at the similar temperatures?what is AACT ?thanks again i get worried when i think i am doing my Girlz wrong
 
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