Newb, First Grow.

I have 3 plants, unknown type, or strain.

About 2.5' - 3' tall

Growing outside in Canada

Soil and soiless medium mixed.

No nutes used for at least 1.5 months

Have had lots of ran and overcast days, not many warm days.

Deficient or locked up??
I am almost positive flowering has not yet started, or its the first couple days.

No idea but I saw this posted n another thread

Thanks, I saw that too, but couldn't find it again. If I followed that, I'm deficient in way too many. Common sense would have me believe I'm locked up. I haven't been able to water to flush because of so much rain

I would give those plants some time released tomato food. You just sprinkle the pellets on the ground around the plant and the rain will dissolve them in to the ground.

I put some clones outdoors without food and they turned entirely yellow in just a few weeks, but with food they turn out really healthy.

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Bomixius said:

I have 3 plants, unknown type, or strain.

About 2.5' - 3' tall

Growing outside in Canada

Soil and soiless medium mixed.

No nutes used for at least 1.5 months

Have had lots of ran and overcast days, not many warm days.

Deficient or locked up??
I am almost positive flowering has not yet started, or its the first couple days.

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Bomixius said:

Thanks, I saw that too, but couldn't find it again. If I followed that, I'm deficient in way too many. Common sense would have me believe I'm locked up. I haven't been able to water to flush because of so much rain

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Yeah you've got some kind of pest eating holes too looks like. Don't think it's in flower from what I can see - not spotting any preflowers n the pics...Other than the affected leaves, the plant looks healthy. Might be time to feed the girls - I think lockout and starvation would look similar since they'd both show symptoms of a deficiency. I'd hate to give you bad advice but personally I'd just try feeding something n cross my fingers...

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Bud Tipps said:

I would give those plants some time released tomato food. You just sprinkle the pellets on the ground around the plant and the rain will dissolve them in to the ground.

I put some clones outdoors without food and they turned entirely yellow in just a few weeks, but with food they turn out really healthy.

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I'll try the pellets and see how it goes. I guess I also failed to say, that last week before all the rain, and crappy weather, I sprayed once, a mild solution of dish soap and water. I did this because I noticed the holes. We however had rain after that and I figured it would of washed away any residual residue.

So I'm finally getting some sun, and no rain yesterday and for the rest of the weekend. I did a Test strip on the water to check ph level, and it's a test strip, so not exact science, but 7.8 is what I read. I know that's high.

I also should say that the alkalinity of my water is at 240ppm, if that matters. Here are full pictures of 3 plants

Bomixius said:

I also should say that the alkalinity of my water is at 240ppm, if that matters. Here are full pictures of 3 plantsView attachment 3206677 View attachment 3206678 View attachment 3206679

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alkalinity and acidity are what pH measures not ppms ppm=parts per million and can be read with a tds neter not a pH meter. your plants look nice and healthy, still young you could feed them now but i wouldnt suggest time released as there is no way to tell what and when nutrients are being delivered to the plant, the holes are probably because tge plabts are right invetweeb tomatos (definitely gunna attract a whole host of cannabis loving pests)

yoh can spray the dish soap as often as youd like but i would say no more than 2 or 3 times a week, idk what your budget is looking like but in the organics section of the forums are a bunch of cheap and simple recipes for feeding planys naturally

bf80255 said:

yoh can spray the dish soap as often as youd like but i would say no more than 2 or 3 times a week, idk what your budget is looking like but in the organics section of the forums are a bunch of cheap and simple recipes for feeding planys naturally

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I was just at the garden center looking at stuff and if it wasn't for the kids being less then cooperative, I almost picked some stuff up. I don't really have a budget, doing this out of interest and enjoyment more then anything. I'm always excited to come home and see what's happening, and now I'm worried more then anything else.