newb having multiple issues

darth666

Member
Hello, everyone and thanks in advance for responding. I am a completely new to growing. I found a plant in the yard and managed to transplant it inside. It is about a foot or so, and a female, I believe, as I've compared it to pics on the web. I put the plant in a pot with enriched potting soil. That was placed in a tall vertical aquarium, with its insides covered in aluminum foil to help with light. I have a full spectrum aquarium light above it, as well as a red light for heat. I was watering the plant regularly, as well as spraying it multiple times a day. It was doing very well, with new growth.

I then added some liquid plant food that was supposed to be for any plant and I must have added too much. It wasn't the first time I had fed it, and prior to this, I noticed nothing wrong. A few days ago, I noticed brown spots on the lower, bigger leaves and after looking up what I saw, I think it was surely nutrient burn. One of the pages said to flood the soil to move the chemicals out faster. I did so, regularly soaking the plant for two days. This morning, I checked up on my plant and it is quite limp. Two of the burned leaves have already fallen off. It looks like it is dying. The plant was secured with loose pipe cleaners to a long stick to give it support, and is now leaning over. It is still green.

I read on another help board regarding over-watering that I should transplant it. This morning, I ran out, bought high quality perlite and enriched potting soil and carefully transplanted my plant, minimizing as much root damage as possible. I give it minimal water, and placed it back in the aquarium, with both lights on. When I came home from work, 6-7 hours later, there has been no improvement.

Does anyone have any advice? Have I killed my plant or am I just too impatient for the recovery? It seems like it has gone though a lot in the last few days. I should have never added so much plant food, but the thing seemed to be thriving after I used it before! Any advice would be appreciated. I really want to save this plant! Thanks so much for your time and help.
 

darth666

Member
I noticed no one has replied. I really need help and am worried that my plant will die if I don't take the proper steps to save it very soon. Any help is appreciated.:-(
 

HighLife4Me

Well-Known Member
Join the club :D You just over fert'd, then freaked out and over watered. Happened to me on my first grow. It should be fine. What they mean by flush is, use their regular watering schedule with just water. Try not to over water. Sounded like you flooded them over that two day period. Hope she pulls though for ya :D :leaf:
 

Grumpy'

Active Member
Only water when the first couple inches of soil are dry. Lose the heat lamp. What's the soil brand? Is it a prefertilized soil? Only feed with nutes every third watering and at 1/4 manufactures dose (what brand nutes). What's the light specs/wattage? What's the rooms humidity level at, and humidity in the tank? Misting might also be keeping the humidity to high where it's in a tank. Need air to flow around the plant as well. Read the stickies in the newbie section.
 

cranker

Legal Moderator, Esq.
honestly it's because without pics it's hard to determine and most people will just skip over it. It's hard as hell to give a good diagnosis without pics.
 

Grumpy'

Active Member
Join the club :D You just over fert'd, then freaked out and over watered. Happened to me on my first grow. It should be fine. What they mean by flush is, use their regular watering schedule with just water. Try not to over water. Sounded like you flooded them over that two day period. Hope she pulls though for ya :D :leaf:
Flushing is actually using two to three times the amount of water that the container is that the plant is in.
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
do you have a fan blowing on the plants? its very important for stem strength.

what you read on that other site about tranplanting to fix overwatering is bs. you fix overwatering by making sure you are letting the soil get dry/light between waterings i'll get you a link of how to tell in a second.

you are going to need to improve your lighting situation quite a bit, those lights are not going to be enough.

it is nearly impossible to kill a cannabis plant, you'd be shocked what they can survive and recover from fairly quickly. with that said you are nowhere even close to that point. relax and be careful feeding and follow the instructions on watering.

What is the "lift the pot" method?

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The "lift the pot" method is a widely practiced, and very accurate method of knowing when to water your container plants.

The best way imho, to know when soil grown potted plants need more watering is by checking how heavy the pots feel. This method is very simple to learn once you get the feel for how light a ready for watering pot of soil feels.

Get an equal size pot and fill it with your soil. The medium should be about as moist as a new bag of potting soil. Use this planter as a learning tool to get a rough idea of how much the pots should weigh before watering again. The pots with your plants will feel only just slightly heavier when the soil is ready for more water. Pick up one of your planted pots, if its noticably heavy, do not water it until it feels "light". Next time you water a planter, pick it up and feel how much heavier it feels compared to the sample pot of soil.

It only takes a few times picking up the pots until this skill is like a "second nature" to you. You wont even need the sample pot after you get accustomed to the lifting method.

Sure your plants are always putting on more weight as they grow larger, but once you're proficient at lifting the pots, you'll also know how to compensate for the weight of the plants with ease.

I dont know how to better explain this method of knowing when to water, but believe me, anyone who learns this method, will always know when its time to water.
 

DrFever

New Member
actually you just cant grab a plant from outside then transplant it and bring it indoors theres a transition period you need to slowly do it
like leave it outside during day then into a garage and so on for like a week or so then bringing it inside
 

dannyboy602

Well-Known Member
It takes more than a day to bounce back from ALL THE ABUSE you gave it....lol
Give the poor thing a couple days and take it from there
 

darth666

Member
IMAG1181.jpgHere is a pic of my plant. As you can see, it's not looking good. Has anyone seen a plant recover from this point. Anything I can do to help aid its recovery? Thanks!
 

darth666

Member
I used Miracle Grow Potting Mix and Miracle Grow perlite. It is prefertilized soil. I am not sure about the room's humidity.
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
that plant could survive no doubt,that major drooping kind of makes it look like it needs watering. I'm going to be honest with you though, that plant looks awful, it could recover but i think you'd be better off starting over my friend
 

Truths

Member
darth what are your temps looking like? In my honest opinion ( I am not expert and still fairly new to growing) The plants will most likely not survive. The stalk still looks green, but once it starts to discolor brown-ish the plant is dying. To caveat that, as long as the root system is still intact and healthy it will eventually thrive again, but in my personal experiences i have had no such luck, and usually just started over.

Couple of questions for ya
1. Could you list your temps?
2. Are you setting your PH to approx 6.0, and if you are what are you using to adjust it? i.e vinegar/ ph down/ some other crazy method i dont know of?
2a. If using tap water then setting the ph are you letting the water set for a day or 2 before giving it to her?
 

The*Mad*Hatter

Well-Known Member
i say if you shorten your post a lil bit you will get a faster response....not saying you havent got alot now....you will just get them faster in the future
 

decrimCA

Active Member
Hello, everyone and thanks in advance for responding. I am a completely new to growing. I found a plant in the yard and managed to transplant it inside. It is about a foot or so, and a female, I believe, as I've compared it to pics on the web. I put the plant in a pot with enriched potting soil. That was placed in a tall vertical aquarium, with its insides covered in aluminum foil to help with light. I have a full spectrum aquarium light above it, as well as a red light for heat. I was watering the plant regularly, as well as spraying it multiple times a day. It was doing very well, with new growth.

I then added some liquid plant food that was supposed to be for any plant and I must have added too much. It wasn't the first time I had fed it, and prior to this, I noticed nothing wrong. A few days ago, I noticed brown spots on the lower, bigger leaves and after looking up what I saw, I think it was surely nutrient burn. One of the pages said to flood the soil to move the chemicals out faster. I did so, regularly soaking the plant for two days. This morning, I checked up on my plant and it is quite limp. Two of the burned leaves have already fallen off. It looks like it is dying. The plant was secured with loose pipe cleaners to a long stick to give it support, and is now leaning over. It is still green.

I read on another help board regarding over-watering that I should transplant it. This morning, I ran out, bought high quality perlite and enriched potting soil and carefully transplanted my plant, minimizing as much root damage as possible. I give it minimal water, and placed it back in the aquarium, with both lights on. When I came home from work, 6-7 hours later, there has been no improvement.

Does anyone have any advice? Have I killed my plant or am I just too impatient for the recovery? It seems like it has gone though a lot in the last few days. I should have never added so much plant food, but the thing seemed to be thriving after I used it before! Any advice would be appreciated. I really want to save this plant! Thanks so much for your time and help.
It's a common newbie mistake. Nothing to beat yourself up over.

Too many nutes + too much water = problems.

Start with less nutrients the next time and it will be fine. Overwatering is certainly a way to offset any damage, but it might not be the answer you need.

Sometimes, things just gotta die in order for you to learn to do better the next time.

Oh well, no worries. You learned.
 

nick17gar

Well-Known Member
honestly it's because without pics it's hard to determine and most people will just skip over it. It's hard as hell to give a good diagnosis without pics.
^ what this guy said. but yea, chances are you over ferted, then over watered. small changes, slowly, seem to work best
 
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