Newbie grower.. need help

Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Nashy Red said:
Okay fine.. maybe not primitive as in a hut surrounded with camels.. we do have donkeys and carretas. Lol
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Camels are assholes. We got charged three times by a Kochi (Afghani gypsy, pronounced "Koochee") family's pack camel while on patrol. The fucker didn't stop until the head of the family came over and started slapping it in the neck. Then it went back to their tent and stayed there.
 
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Nashy Red

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That does sound like an asshole camel. So... if I only have peat moss and a big unlabeled sack of what the farmer called "kombost" which is probably compost. Do I mix half and half or mix more of the peat moss? This is my only plant.. I read about the mixes but it asks for perlite which i cant find here. Is it necessary?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Perlite is for drainage. If you grow in mainly peat, you'll retain too much water and you'll get root rot and bugs. No good. Get coco and use that mainly, and compose it from what I mentioned.
 
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Nashy Red

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Olive Drab Green said:
You should mix the peat with coco and the compost. And a bit of dolomite lime and perlite. And earthworm castings.
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All of the above do not exist. I have access to compost and peat... there are no stores that sell garden equip. No ACE hardware or home depots.. just farmers who lack real knowledge. I tried to understand how they work the nutes.. seems they just eye it with no science behind it. Probably why rate of cancers so high from all the cancerous veggies sold. So.. can i succeed with compost and peat?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Nashy Red said:
All of the above do not exist. I have access to compost and peat... there are no stores that sell garden equip. No ACE hardware or home depots.. just farmers who lack real knowledge. I tried to understand how they work the nutes.. seems they just eye it with no science behind it. Probably why rate of cancers so high from all the cancerous veggies sold. So.. can i succeed with compost and peat?
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No. I really wouldn't. Order online?
 
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Mount

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Light reading on peat and compost... http://perrysperennials.info/articles/peatcom.html

You will need some aeration for the soil, like perlite... Amazon doesnt deliver to you?

Not knowing your existing soil, but knowing you want to add compost and peat, you should add some Dolomite Lime to help balance the soil out... any chance you can get a soil test kit? Also from Amazon? Or a local source?

Remember, the soil is the life line to the plant. The better the balance and mix, the healthier it will be. Will it get to the point of harvest without a good mix, quite possibly, but it can cause issues along the way without a good soil, or it could kill it. Think about the soil being your heart, it does better when cared for and you are stronger with a healthy heart.

Overall the plant does not look in that bad of shape, although when going to flower, the stresses it has been going through will impact it more so if not corrected. If you can grow good tomatoes, you can grow cannabis. Everyone goes through trails and errors with cannabis, don't over think it too much, but you have to remember the basics it you want a good result.. good soil, good temps/humidity, good light, decent air/circulation, nutes/water when needed and the plant will tell you this. To many times people add an odd balance of nutes and cause the issues.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Mount said:
Light reading on peat and compost... http://perrysperennials.info/articles/peatcom.html

You will need some aeration for the soil, like perlite... Amazon doesnt deliver to you?

Not knowing your existing soil, but knowing you want to add compost and peat, you should add some Dolomite Lime to help balance the soil out... any chance you can get a soil test kit? Also from Amazon? Or a local source?

Remember, the soil is the life line to the plant. The better the balance and mix, the healthier it will be. Will it get to the point of harvest without a good mix, quite possibly, but it can cause issues along the way without a good soil, or it could kill it. Think about the soil being your heart, it does better when cared for and you are stronger with a healthy heart.

Overall the plant does not look in that bad of shape, although when going to flower, the stresses it has been going through will impact it more so if not corrected. If you can grow good tomatoes, you can grow cannabis. Everyone goes through trails and errors with cannabis, don't over think it too much, but you have to remember the basics it you want a good result.. good soil, good temps/humidity, good light, decent air/circulation, nutes/water when needed and the plant will tell you this. To many times people add an odd balance of nutes and cause the issues.
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So, he pretty much told you exactly what I did.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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You'd be better off getting a bucket of tilled land from a local farmer friend. Pure peat or mainly peat just retains too much water. Find some neem oil or neem plant, too, for bugs.
 
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Mount

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Olive Drab Green said:
So, he pretty much told you exactly what I did.
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Sometimes we have to re-peat (get it peat..;-)) ourselves or others because of so much compost ( do I need to really use word play) to sift through..

Sorry could not resist screwing around... peat and compost where going up a hill, peat fell down and compost shit all over him...
 
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harris hawk

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If you don't want to flush and remove the extra amounts of nutrients - then let soil dry - so plant clean/use all nutrients in the soil
 
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Bbcchance

Bbcchance

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I have a theory based on my limited knowledge of food grade polyethylene that because it is non biodegradebal and doesn't absorb or release chemicals that theoretically you should be able to use straws and stir sticks cut into small pieces as an adequate filler to help drainage, haven't tried it yet as it's just a theory
 
Maggs707

Maggs707

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If you can gently remove the plant from the pot and take a look at the roots, that would be helpful in figuring out what's going on. I've had plants go rootbound on me on several occasions, and the symptoms look exactly like that. They droop and look unhappy at first, and then the bottom leaves start to turn yellow. I have mistaken this for overwatering before, hard to tell the difference. I would bet on it being too large for that pot. If that's the case, make sure you break up/razor those roots a bit before you pot it up. (An x about 1/2 inch deep on the bottom and a few diagonal slits on the sides). If you don't do that, the roots could just keep growing in circles and end up strangling themselves. Not good. Also, after a traumatic transplant like that, you would definitely want to give your plant some vitamin B-1to help aid in its recovery. Superthrive is great. Good luck!
 
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Nashy Red

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Thanks for the advice! My plant was root bound. I transplanted it and its lookin much better. I also added a tspoon of the npk with a liter of water and sprayed. How many times a week do I feed it nutes? Also i noticed some of the leaves ripped/with holes.. what is that?

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