Newbie question about growing in or near streams

I am new to outdoor growing, but have raised several closet crops with success. Where I am at there is alot of bogs and streams in the woods. But the woods are pretty commonly used by atv and hunters, so I was thinking the bogs and streams may be good to grow in as they recieve the most light in the forest as well as having the plus that not too many people want to wander up a stream or through acres of bog.

What ways area there to grow in bogs or streams? I am sure I would need to use pots to grow in. But are ther any suggestions or tips from the grow gods that may help a fellow fiend out?

How go's the hunt? Have you found you spot?

Yes I have many nice areas in the swamps around here that run east/west the one I am going to try is approx 1600 ft long by 500 feet wide providing many spots for the 10-20 plants I want to grow.

I had some questions though which I have put in other threads regarding your burlap method.

1. where do you get your soil from? onsite? or brought in?
2. Do you use any kind of stakes to mount the "raft" into a spot so it does not float or drift away?
3. Would this type of grow benefit from a wic system through holes in the bottom of the bag through the logs and into the water to help keep things moist? or from your experience is the burlap abosrbant enough to suck up enough dew to keep things good until the roots pass through the bag and into the water?

I have checked out most of your posts and your gallery and seing some of your pictures makes me feel very good about taking advice from you.

Thanks again, weather here has been pretty shitty thanks to that beautiful nor-easter, but this weekend looks perfect to drop some sacks.

I use PROMIX. BUT Schultz/Miraclegrow work just as well. I use raft's in mucky areas not running water.{Hipwaders/rubberboots}BUT now that you say it I might try it. A few logs across a stream with burlap sacs and a wick system. Maybe Maybe. If you are worried about flooding pile logs to a reasonable hight and pack with dirt for root growth or tie you raft with stakes/posts

Skids/pallets from jobsites or the back of stores work great to elevate your plants in mucky sites.

Thanks I will keep that in mind I have heard of a lot of you using the miricale grow soil. The area I have in mind has a stream that runs through the middle and it is swampy for about 400 feet on each side of it, so flooding may be an issue depending on how close to the stream I go that is why I asked about staking the rafts.

I am also thinking I should tie the plants down when they get large so they dont stick out so much in the swampy kind of dead zone because there is a small airport about 10 miles down the road from my house.

I cant wait I am so anxious to get started.

Get out there and prep your spot's. With all the rain from the nor-easter you should be able to see how much flooding you might have to worry about.

Yeah tomorrow I am going to find the burlap sacs at a nursery or feed store, it is supposed to rain tomorrow so I may not go out into the muck. But Saturday and Sunday are going to be like 70 so I will probably be setting my rafts up then. I plan on taking a camera and taking pics of how things go to add a Grow Journal becuase when I perused through them I didnt see any outdoor swamp/stream ones.

I got mine by a stream and they do fine.

Nice nice with all the rain you should be able to see how much flooding you have to deal with. I am going out next weekend to prep some other spot's I got I will take some pic's too. I am doing elevated bed's, burlap sac's, and hole's. I should be able to throw a nice journal together for ya to see...

Happy hunting in the muck one of my favorite parts. Hahahahahaha

A journal for an outdoor wet environment from a grow guru would be very lovely. It would be nice to compare my stuff with someone who has done the outdoor thing before.

Ablazed Blunt, do you have yours on land or over water? If over water and above a stream do you use the wic system to get water up to the sac?

Shaman, do you think it would be possible to do a hydro outdoor setup in a stream or pond?

I was thinking start them indoors like you would normally start off for a hydro grow, but when it is time to put them into the indoor hydro set up, instead taking them to a pond or stream. Setting the rockwool or whatever medium you used to sprout them in between the cracks in the logs and letting the roots hang into the water.

I have tried Hydro indoors once, but it was more a half and half mix, I had the plants in small pots of dirt and cut the bottoms off so the roots would grow into an aquarium I have. It turned out pretty nice though. But I was thinking a stream or pond should be pretty nutrient rich shouldnt it?

Anyone ever entertain this idea? or maybe pulled it off succesfully?

I personally never tried it. But I am definitely going to try it.

Ok another question to throw at you. I do not think I can haul the dirt that I am going to need to my site for um how would you say stealth issues. As I said alot of people frequent some of these trails, and I lead right past a dump and near a sand plant. So I was looking at maybe taking some soil from the grow site and using it.

Do you think soil from a swamp is decent for the plants? I am off to get my burlap and a soil test kit tomorrow, but wanted a expert opinion too. I took a walk back there today with my waders on and it is perfect sun almost all day long with the exception of maybe the 1st and last hour of the day. Nasty to get to, I actually sank into a couple spots up to my waist and the foul smell was alost unbearable, does that mean good soil? or nasty crap?

To give you an idea, as I have not yet taken the camera out yet (good thing too it probably would have got soaked today) the plant life is marsh grasses (lots of it), holy bushes, small bushes growing in the water on the sides of the marsh, some oak trees, and other soft woods like small pines (very sparce), some kind of tree with white flowers on it, I was actually kind of impressed with the plantlife in there. I thought it would be more dead. I thought I read in another thread on here about if grasses are growing the soil should be good? Do you think that sounds like good soil if all those plants are growing in it?

Thanks so much for your insight. And sorry that post was so long, I just smoked and am very excited about getting out there and putting some bags down

I think that soil would be fine for mix. How do you feel about filling your sac's half full of potting soil, and packing 2-3 in a back pack. Then hiking them out to your spot. And mix those half sac's of p:soil with natural soil on site. Ya it's a lot of trips but worth it in the long run...........I have a 4x4 truck so I make my sac's then drive right to my spot.

Yeah I could probably do a 50% mix of Miracle Grow and natural soil. That wouldnt be soo bad, then I would only have to fill 10 sacs to hike out there.

Yeah my jeep would make it for sure, but it is all wild life preservation area, so the roads are all gated and locked. I do have a dirtbike and make my trips with larger tools and things that way. If I take the bike it is only like a 10 minute ride so 5 trips with 2 bags of soil each trip wont be bad.

Watch out try not to make a trail to your grow site. Use different ways and camo your trail's.

When i grow in a bog, i put my plants in a tubberware container with the bottom cut out on top of the bog. so i dont bury the container, it sits on top of the ground. Seems to work well.

I am a little confused, do you mean something like the picture I made below?

How did your mission go? Did you get every thing you where looking for? I think I told to many people about the burlap sac's. There is a burlap shortage where I am,Sold out. I still need at leased 100-200 sac's.

And then what fill the containter with soil?