Newbie with a heat problem

DannyGreenEyes

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Forget that last question, it was a dumb one. The guy at Best Buy had no idea what he was talking about, only water is condensation.

Only question left is to intake from the closet or intake from outside the closet.
 

capecodkid

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Im thinking that you are gonna have to take exaust and suck intake from outside the closet. I am not 100% sure about that. My night sucked. i just got back from my grow and my plants preflowerd 4out of 6 is male and 1 def a female and1 that hasnt shown sex yet but im 75% its gonna be female because females take longer to show sex.

Reminder to self: dont buy regular seeds every again.
 

billyblaze

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Too bad man on the lousy % That why I am lucky to be getting the clones, and with 9 more seedlings sprouted I should get at least 3-4 female Blueberry plants and it will be a whole lot of fun
 

DannyGreenEyes

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Billy, cool I'm reading the instructions now. Thing has a hell of a lot of settings. lol Shouldn't be too hard to find a cool intake, I'll just leave the bedroom door open & get intake from there. I'll have to exhaust there too, I'll just have to put the exhaust as far from the intake as I can.

Cape Cod - Sorry to hear about your night, but look at the bright side. You can still get clones off the females in a couple of weeks. Personally I'm sticking with clones because when you use seeds, I've been told that the plant is never as potent as their parents. I've heard that from more than one horticulturists. Plus a shit load of growers as I grew up on the east coast.

You might also think about using Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to get 2 or 4 MAIN colas to top your girls when they're big enough and use the extra large top to clone. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

Hope that last one turns out fem, I'll keep my fingers crossed just in case.
 

DannyGreenEyes

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Oh yeah, it also has an internal reservior, the tank & drain line are for when that reservior fills up. And it has an auto shut off feature so the internal reservior or external tanks fill up. Just in case I forget to empty them. It's a pretty nice unit, I just wish it had a humidifier.
 

billyblaze

Member
Shit man your as bad as me lol I keep coming up with all these hair brained ideas of what i need...lol what I need is to get this one home and then go on a bit of an upgrade spree
 

DannyGreenEyes

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I think I have everything now except dirt & perlite. I'm not going to test the A/C till tommorow so it's a bit warmer when I do the test. It's 70 in the house now. But after I regulate temp and make the pots, then it's just a matter of getting the clones and I'm finally on my way.

I ended up getting the Tiger Bloom, that's some serious shit. The Big Bloom had a real low rating, less than 1-1-1. But the guy at the Big Tomato said that the Tiger Bloom is chemical but has a organic base and therefore can be used with other organic fertilizers. And he wasn't just trying to make the sale, I was using a store credit. Of course I will confirm this before I use it. But other than dirt & perlite that was the last thing I needed.

I'm with you on the upgrades, I'll be doing some upgrading every harvest for the first several harvests. But I'm planning on eventually getting a small warehouse and have one hell of an operation going. All the dispesories always seem to be in need, might as well fill the need :D

I'm gonna head to bed, I want to get up early tommorow. Good luck with "getting them home"
 

capecodkid

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Billy, cool I'm reading the instructions now. Thing has a hell of a lot of settings. lol Shouldn't be too hard to find a cool intake, I'll just leave the bedroom door open & get intake from there. I'll have to exhaust there too, I'll just have to put the exhaust as far from the intake as I can.

Cape Cod - Sorry to hear about your night, but look at the bright side. You can still get clones off the females in a couple of weeks. Personally I'm sticking with clones because when you use seeds, I've been told that the plant is never as potent as their parents. I've heard that from more than one horticulturists. Plus a shit load of growers as I grew up on the east coast.

You might also think about using Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to get 2 or 4 MAIN colas to top your girls when they're big enough and use the extra large top to clone. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

Hope that last one turns out fem, I'll keep my fingers crossed just in case.
Yup i topped already. I topped the main staulk a few weeks ago and last week i topped every spot on the plant(bud sites). check out my sig(bottom of page).
 

capecodkid

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I am glad you feel better today man. keep up the good work. you just want to get the climate under control and you will be half way there bud. I wish i could get some clones.
 

DannyGreenEyes

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I am glad you feel better today man. keep up the good work. you just want to get the climate under control and you will be half way there bud. I wish i could get some clones.
Nah, I was feeling better yesterday, but today I've been taking it easy to make sure I don't puke. At least there are no dry heaves so it's not as bad as the day before yesterday. I'm going to the Dr tommorow though.

Temp was in the mid 80s with all 5 bulbs and the portable A/C, no fans. So I just set up the fans (floor flan in front of A/C pointed up & tall fan oscillating toward plant area) and turned on the A/C in the bedroom (wall unit).

I figured it would help if the intake air was colder. Also the exhaust hose wasn't that long so it's just outside the door about 4 ft from the intake. I'll eventually cut some of that other duct that I bought and extend the exhaust into the bathroom & use the bath vent fan to vent it.

If this still don't work I'll try taking down the new vinyl closet door and open it to the bedroom to hopefully get more benefit from the wall A/C in the bedroom. And I'll start turning off bulbs as a last resort, but I think I got this heat thing on the ropes now.

Sucks about the clones. One other thing you can do is clone 1 plant of every strain that you grow and put them in veg. When you grow a plant that you especially like (potency, yeild, taste, whatever) just keep the clone & turn it into a mom. You can use CFLs to keep the moms alive so it shouldn't add very much heat to the veg area. Once you have enough moms to choose from you wont need to use seeds and risk males unless you want to test a new strain.

Of course you can drive to a state with dispensories and figure out how to get some clones on the "down low", but I can't recommend anything that would be illegal, and I think that might actually be a felony because you're crossing state lines with plants. Personally I was thinking of traveling to the E. Coast to get clones of better strains than I can find here, but decided against it in the end. Maybe if I ever get my own private jet lol, j/k.

I'll also keep my ears open for any seeds that someone is particularly happy with. And in 6 to 12 months I should be able to produce some gold seeds, if it's legal to mail them I'll try to send you some.
 

capecodkid

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cool beans man. have a few strains that i will be ordering from the attitude seed bank that i am going to try out. I was only planing for about three plants so im not that disappointed. There are so many legit seed banks out there. The whole mother plant thing it will def happen but not just yet. I want to get another light 600 wat for floering and two tents one for veg end one for flower. i will use the 400 i already have for my veg room. I plan on getting a harvest hopefully every 2 months. It all depends on how this harvest is me and my buddy have a little over 1000 into the grow so if we break even we will be ok. Then we can pay off cards and start charging again. i plan on haveing a outdoor grow this summer im planing on having 3 plots with 10-15 plant in each one al within 1/4mile from each other just incase one gets comprimised there is still two plots. Its gonna be right next to the army base.... Thats a money maker No electricity almost 100% profit.
 

DannyGreenEyes

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Mother plant areas are cheap to build & operate since you don't really have to be concerned with growing it big or potent, you're only gonna pull clones off it anyway. You can get a 2 bulb shop light from home depot for $20 and keep them alive with a couple of fluorescents. You don't have to worry about temp, humidity, or fertilizer nearly as much, just check on them when you water them and if they look a little droopy then add a little grow fertilizer or adjust the temp a little if it's too hot or too cold. You will have to balance the PH in the water, but that's about the only thing that you have to really pat attention to, within reason of course.

I'd save the 400 for the veg room where you grow plants to flower.

Also it's a good idea to keep 2 moms for each strain that you want to keep just incase one turns male or hermie.

If you're just looking for a cheap 1000w to get you going, and you can deal with the heat caused by a crappy hood, then HTG has one for under $200. Heck of a deal and if it's good enough to get you started then it's a great deal.

What you're talking about is called Gorilla Grows, they've been really cracking down on them in CA and are using airplanes to spot them. It was covered on one of thsoe "marijuana inc" shows on MSNBC (weekends). So I guess they can be good if you do them in the right area. But dude seriously, these days a military base is the last place you want to be anywhere near for a gorilla grow or even to just burn a fatty. I'd pick a different area to be on the safe side, domestic base security is at an all time hi right now. Plus if it's a military base you never know if they might be experimenting with something that can kill your plants or you for that matter. Radiation is a bitch. lol

And there is one thing you should know about gurilla grows. Every one they found had a shelter built near by so someone could stay there for days at a time. The reason is when your plants need you, then you need to be there. If they get sick, have infestation problems, flowering starts and you have to pull males, etc... then you might have to spend a few days in a make shift shelter. Not only is this no fun to people who don't camp, but if you're in Cape Cod then you have to worry about bears too, especially since you'll have to bring your own food to survive on while you're there.

If you pick a better area and carry a gun big enough to hurt a bear, then you should be ok. Just remember to keep your food off the ground, it helps keep bears away.

Also you may want to look for some books. I never read up on this myself, but on the Marijuana Inc show they were showing irrigation systems powered by gravity that allowed them to grow miles away from a water source to make the grow harder for the cops to find.
 

capecodkid

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There are no bears here. where the plants will be wont interfere with the base so i dont have to worry about MPs or security. Plus one of my best friends brothers works the grave yardshift patroling the fences. We got drunk one night drove right through the fence drove around the base tearing it up. I have been 4wheelin in these woods for years till the wee hrs drunk as shit not to even be messed with by a cop. We have bonfires out there 15 feet tall without a problem. The only thing i would be worryed about would be other people takin my shit. It aint nothing like you seen on tv i dont have to walk for miles in the woods. This is like i will go scope out some spots and it will be no more than a 5 min walk through the woods to the site from the road.
 

DannyGreenEyes

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Well that didn't work, it's still mid 80s in the closet. Instead of opening the closet I turned off the wall unit A/C in the bedroom and opened the bedroom door to the outside, it's around 50 degrees outside so that should drop the temp in the bedroom (and the temp of the intake air) considerably. Hopefull that will work.

The vinyl is great, not a hint of light coming through anywhere. I used that "pleather" vinyl for upholstery, just had them cut it off the roll for me. $15 for 2.5 yards. And it's kinda shiny too.
 

DannyGreenEyes

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Good to hear about the bears, but I thought the whole NE had brown & black bears. Maybe they don't like the coast. lol

The further you are from a trail the harder it is for others to find. If the cops go looking, they'll search near the water sources first. If the military installed any type of survaillence equipment to watch the boundaries of the base, then you're as good as busted. If they don't have the survaillence equip now but put it in say next month or next year, then you're as good as busted. If they detect a bonfire they'll have to check it out, but if they see a soldier & his bro hanging out, then I don't even think they'd make themselves known to you so you'd never know they were there. Why give away info about base security when they don't have to (if they had an MP drive out to chase you away, then you'd know a little about base security as far as how far out they monitor, and that to them would be compromising base security. The military loves to surprise the enemy and as a result they give as little info as they can to their friends)

The grows they were busting in CA on the show were miles from the nearest trail or water source and the cops still found it. So just be carefull whatever you do. Also, small clearings in the middle of a forrest seemed to be the favorite spot for the gorilla growers in CA because the trees will help to hide the plants untill someone is right on top of them.
 
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