polishpollack
Well-Known Member
Your first pics don't look like either cal or mag as I understand their early appearance to be, but it's good that they look great now. What ppm are you planning on going to as they grow?
Newbie, yellow brown spots with aroma.
- Thread starter Charlieghoul
- Start date
Charlieghoul
New Member
The reason i belive that was because with only using grow and micro without bloom, i wasnt giving the plant any calcium. The bloom has all that. The calmag seems to do alot for the plant when added. I did see a few people with similar looking spots that turned out to be calmag aswell. But couldve bin a few deficiencies, i certainly dont know.
The lucas formula at full strength should be around 950 or so ppm, from what i read. So ill be working up to that and see how that goes.
polishpollack
Well-Known Member
People debate how to use the GH bottles and have debated for years. My opinion is that since the company makes all three, they should all be used in the mix. Doesn't the grow bottle have something that the other two don't? It's been a while since I've read the contents. This guys says some important stuff:
If you use a one-part fert like Dynagro, one bottle for veg, one for bloom, you shouldn't have to worry much. maybe add a little calmag at some point, or maybe not. The reason why Lucas works is because micro has nitrogen, but if by avoiding the use of the grow or bloom bottle you're probably leaving something out that's needed. You have to read the labels and see if that's the case.
Charlieghoul
New Member
Definitely. I get what youre saying. With leaving out grow the only nutrient that isnt being supplimented by the others would be phosphate. Everything else in grow is also in the mirco and bloom.
So at this point i decided to experiment. A couple plants on lucas and a couple on the full line. Both seem to be doing ok now. Crazy how each strain is defferent, one is completely happy using only lucas, the other needed calmag cuz she started showing spots again right away when removed.
The only other thing tripping me out is how bushy these are all getting, almost like leaves are suffocating other. Is this normal? Not all are indica, some sativa dominant. But none of them want to stretch. I tried training them a bit to give the new leaves more room, they were litteraly tangled together. And lights has bin moved away multiple times to try and get them to stretch some.
I should really just do a grow log lol.
Attachments
polishpollack
Well-Known Member
I think that's how indica grows, short and bush while sativa is tall and spindly.
Charlieghoul
New Member
The two on the right are both sativa dominant.
polishpollack
Well-Known Member
ok but they don't really look like it.
Charlieghoul
New Member
Which is why i thought i was strange. The seeds are from a reputable vendor, so im assuming that they are what they say.
My ph is super stable between 5.7-5.8.
Charlieghoul
New Member
The original problem has bin dealt with. It was indeed calmag. I did a test with a smaller plant and removed calmag, started to spot within 48 hours. Put it back on calmag and spotting stopped.
Few issues here and there but seems to be going alright now.
Yeah each one of them has like 4 massive fan leaves on them. Is that a problem? I figured it was becuase it was the 4 first real leaves.
Wattzzup
Well-Known Member
Lucas is intended to be used throughout. It’s the ppm/tds that need to be adjusted for stage of plant
polishpollack
Well-Known Member
That's nice but the issue is this: is there something in the grow bottle that isn't contained in the other two?
Wattzzup
Well-Known Member
What I’m saying is a lot of people use it without the green bottle with no problems. As far as I’ve read you mix 1 micro and 2 bloom. It has everything it needs
Charlieghoul
New Member
Ohh, how they grow so quickly. All is doing pretty well now.
About a week or so into flower.
Thankyou to everyone that chimed in with some advice.
About a week or so into flower.
Thankyou to everyone that chimed in with some advice.
