Newer led technology !!! Facts not fiction

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MrDank007

MrDank007

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I am a new grower who has spent the last couple of months doing research. Very quickly I became tempted by these LEDs. Honestly, they sound like the future for growing. Once proven and economical, all of your arguements become no-brainers.

You can jam one in a small cab with little heat, easy set-up and get the production of a big HID light which is not feasible in that small of a set up. Perfect for noobs like me.

HOWEVER...like these reluctant vets state in every one of these post I have read....the proof is in the pudding. Most of these "higher quality" set ups are very pricey. Yours seems reasonable. I've read the same regurgitated facts on every sales piece though. Show us the HP flowered, show us some pics, a vid, anything. I want to believe I really do, but it's still buyer beware at this point.

Please don't take these comments as dickish especially as I am no pro, but I've been around the block a few times.
Sell us on it with some proof! I really wish you luck for all of our sakes.
 
tybudz

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GO AWAY. TRY IT YOUR SELF AND PROVE IT TO YOURSELF. you are close minded. GO AWAY PLEASE !!!!
 
wyteberrywidow

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tybudz said:
GO AWAY. TRY IT YOUR SELF AND PROVE IT TO YOURSELF. you are close minded. GO AWAY PLEASE !!!!
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Im close minded because i ask for proof from someone that says he gets a half pound from a 90 watt led consistently?We see who are little kids on this forum.
 
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goldenone

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I would try this for sure if there were proof of a documented grow. I would like to see this. Very interesting. You seem very defensive which is one reason I would not take the plunge without proof. Just my 2 cents.
 
tybudz

tybudz

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MrDank007 said:
I am a new grower who has spent the last couple of months doing research. Very quickly I became tempted by these LEDs. Honestly, they sound like the future for growing. Once proven and economical, all of your arguements become no-brainers.

You can jam one in a small cab with little heat, easy set-up and get the production of a big HID light which is not feasible in that small of a set up. Perfect for noobs like me.

HOWEVER...like these reluctant vets state in every one of these post I have read....the proof is in the pudding. Most of these "higher quality" set ups are very pricey. Yours seems reasonable. I've read the same regurgitated facts on every sales piece though. Show us the HP flowered, show us some pics, a vid, anything. I want to believe I really do, but it's still buyer beware at this point.

Please don't take these comments as dickish especially as I am no pro, but I've been around the block a few times.
Sell us on it with some proof! I really wish you luck for all of our sakes.
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thanks for the input BUT THIS IS NOT A DEBATE THREAD. geeze. I am a vet. have been doing this since 95. love hps/mh but you are wasting SO MUCH MONEY with light your plant doesnt absorb. the link I gave is what I use to do what i said i have done. I HAVE NO REASON to lie. I am just tired of people who used a crappy LED and got crappy results and BASH. or people who are still using typewriters when you could use a computer.

like i said I get that MH/and HPS work great but TOO MUch HEAT AND TOO MUCH waist. if you dont have the money or OPEN mind to Try a computer great. stick to using the typewriter.

Use the one I linked to for a reason.
 
tybudz

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goldenone said:
I would try this for sure if there were proof of a documented grow. I would like to see this. Very interesting. You seem very defensive which is one reason I would not take the plunge without proof. Just my 2 cents.
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Im defensive because this wyteberry guys goes on EVERy LED thread and bashes and hates. i want him to leave LED users ALONE!!!
 
newworldicon

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I too think that LED can grow dank buds, I have seen personal grows in the flesh with very decent colas but to say a 90W ufo however well dialled in including your growing style can match a 400W HID really does require some show and tell. I am defenitly a potential LED fan and have been considering purchasing 6 300W units to replace my current lights so would never want to consider a 90W but you will have to show potential ufo buyers the goods mate.
 
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goldenone

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tybudz said:
Im defensive because this wyteberry guys goes on EVERy LED thread and bashes and hates. i want him to leave LED users ALONE!!!
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Hey you think you could do a grow journal? That would be awesome! I would love to be able to use these for a small grow space.
 
wyteberrywidow

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tybudz said:
Im defensive because this wyteberry guys goes on EVERy LED thread and bashes and hates. i want him to leave LED users ALONE!!!
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I dont bash.You call asking for proof bashing???DAmn you need a dictionary so called vet?Its been proven what mh/hps can do its yet to be proven what led can do so i dont know what you mean by bashing.
 
wyteberrywidow

wyteberrywidow

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MrDank007 said:
I am a new grower who has spent the last couple of months doing research. Very quickly I became tempted by these LEDs. Honestly, they sound like the future for growing. Once proven and economical, all of your arguements become no-brainers.

You can jam one in a small cab with little heat, easy set-up and get the production of a big HID light which is not feasible in that small of a set up. Perfect for noobs like me.

HOWEVER...like these reluctant vets state in every one of these post I have read....the proof is in the pudding. Most of these "higher quality" set ups are very pricey. Yours seems reasonable. I've read the same regurgitated facts on every sales piece though. Show us the HP flowered, show us some pics, a vid, anything. I want to believe I really do, but it's still buyer beware at this point.

Please don't take these comments as dickish especially as I am no pro, but I've been around the block a few times.
Sell us on it with some proof! I really wish you luck for all of our sakes.
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goldenone said:
I would try this for sure if there were proof of a documented grow. I would like to see this. Very interesting. You seem very defensive which is one reason I would not take the plunge without proof. Just my 2 cents.
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newworldicon said:
I too think that LED can grow dank buds, I have seen personal grows in the flesh with very decent colas but to say a 90W ufo however well dialled in including your growing style can match a 400W HID really does require some show and tell. I am defenitly a potential LED fan and have been considering purchasing 6 300W units to replace my current lights so would never want to consider a 90W but you will have to show potential ufo buyers the goods mate.
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Thank you all.All i want to see is proof.Why promote something with no proof.
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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It's a bit surprising considering he says they are the biggest sellers of LED? You would think their marketing strategy would have been bullet proof by now, but hey I'm not knocking, I want to see those fat buds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
wyteberrywidow

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newworldicon said:
It's a bit surprising considering he says they are the biggest sellers of LED? You would think their marketing strategy would have been bullet proof by now, but hey I'm not knocking, I want to see those fat buds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Notice once i called him out on showing the buds they produce he does not say nothing about the fact no more.Also he has a current grow right now that is nowhere next to a half pound.
 
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leftreartire

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you dont want to use 400w when your plant only needs 50 then go get cfl's. i still would like to know what kind of area a 90w led will cover. is it one light per plant or 2 plants or is it area of scrog. so tell me please. and a half pound for a ufo. how many of them?
 
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leftreartire

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MrDank007 said:
I am a new grower who has spent the last couple of months doing research. Very quickly I became tempted by these LEDs. Honestly, they sound like the future for growing. Once proven and economical, all of your arguements become no-brainers.

You can jam one in a small cab with little heat, easy set-up and get the production of a big HID light which is not feasible in that small of a set up. Perfect for noobs like me.

HOWEVER...like these reluctant vets state in every one of these post I have read....the proof is in the pudding. Most of these "higher quality" set ups are very pricey. Yours seems reasonable. I've read the same regurgitated facts on every sales piece though. Show us the HP flowered, show us some pics, a vid, anything. I want to believe I really do, but it's still buyer beware at this point.

Please don't take these comments as dickish especially as I am no pro, but I've been around the block a few times.
Sell us on it with some proof! I really wish you luck for all of our sakes.
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the problem lies with the lies. i mean i can grow everything under 400w and then place a ufo in the area snap a picture and tell you did this a candle lite i guess one of these days we have to know someone we trust and see for ourselves in person that leds are worth the risk of loot they cost
 
wyteberrywidow

wyteberrywidow

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leftreartire said:
the problem lies with the lies. i mean i can grow everything under 400w and then place a ufo in the area snap a picture and tell you did this a candle lite i guess one of these days we have to know someone we trust and see for ourselves in person that leds are worth the risk of loot they cost
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Thank you for your input.+ rep.
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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Well all I can say is I really want LED's to work but going onto HG's website I read the same hype and keywords I read on every LED website including the dodgy ones. There are no real specific specs plus his nm choices are not as dialled in as they could be. Marijuana chlorophyl A peaks at 439nm and 642nm....chlorophyl B peaks at 453nm and 663nm.

440460640660....my numbers for this weeks lottery...lol.
 
newworldicon

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leftreartire said:
you dont want to use 400w when your plant only needs 50 then go get cfl's. i still would like to know what kind of area a 90w led will cover. is it one light per plant or 2 plants or is it area of scrog. so tell me please. and a half pound for a ufo. how many of them?
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A ufo does not throw that effective a spread of light, My personal opinion is that a bigger 126W or something would be better plus lens angle is important too for penetration, this has always been a key issue to actually realise the potential of LED. HG ufo does not make this clear in his websites marketing material.
 
extremist2sk

extremist2sk

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you guys need to chill out havent you read what he says? All the other LED's are fake and not the right spectrum!! thats like putting a cfl under a 400watt hood and saying its a 400watt HPS. We need to test out this new product and see whats up and stop bashing
 
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