Newer led technology !!! Facts not fiction

extremist2sk said:

you guys need to chill out havent you read what he says? All the other LED's are fake and not the right spectrum!! thats like putting a cfl under a 400watt hood and saying its a 400watt HPS. We need to test out this new product and see whats up and stop bashing

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For the record I am chilled out and do want LED to work but my 5 months of +/-6 hours a day research means that I know his lights could be more detailed in their spec, they aren't and frankly what I know now is that because of all the negative hype and "bashing" as you call it that I have witnessed on many a forum....it is even more important than ever now for LED manufacturers/wholesalers/retailers start delivering on the hype/promise.

Some are and some aren't. I want LED to work more than most, I see how fantastic a growing tool it could possibly be but too many people are selling equipment that are just nowhere near what they claim, are his???? I don't know..he won't show me or anyone else for that matter it seems.

PS. Dig the avatar lol.

extremist2sk said:

you guys need to chill out havent you read what he says? All the other LED's are fake and not the right spectrum!! thats like putting a cfl under a 400watt hood and saying its a 400watt HPS. We need to test out this new product and see whats up and stop bashing

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So you call bashing asking for proof?Thats all i want proof.
If a 90 watt can produce a half pound with ease ill go buy 2-3 of them.

extremist2sk said:

you guys need to chill out havent you read what he says? All the other LED's are fake and not the right spectrum!! thats like putting a cfl under a 400watt hood and saying its a 400watt HPS. We need to test out this new product and see whats up and stop bashing

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o.k then,go buy one,come back in 4 months and tell us what you think.

i too hope leds work out becuase they would be great for us who keep reef tanks and need mh to get the corals to grow witch is so much heat and evaperation of our water we need to run chillers and such to keep the tanks we want. so to have leds actually work would be great

extremist2sk said:

you guys need to chill out havent you read what he says? All the other LED's are fake and not the right spectrum!! thats like putting a cfl under a 400watt hood and saying its a 400watt HPS. We need to test out this new product and see whats up and stop bashing

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thank you brother. and I have things to take care of like a business, and family. sorry i cannot sit here and \defend myself ALL DAY.


and again. I would be getting paid if i were marketing. and im not. the only reason I posted this thread is SERVERAL people wnted to know what Product I Use to get the results I get. Sorry i dont take A lot of pics of my past grows. and i dont really keep any pics around. im sure most could agree why. Now.

I would not use a 50w cfl because.. look at what i said

" you using 400w hps/Mh 90% of your energy is wasted as it is not energy in the needed nm. for your plant is really only using tops 50w or your Bulb.

now my 90w that link I have tested and Is in the right nm for bith cloriphyl a and b. now my 90w is matching EXACTLY what the plant needs so is using 100% or 90 watts of energy and is why i can put out 1 half pound sog or lst using the 1 90w I linked to.

tybudz said:

thank you brother. and I have things to take care of like a business, and family. sorry i cannot sit here and \defend myself ALL DAY.


and again. I would be getting paid if i were marketing. and im not. the only reason I posted this thread is SERVERAL people wnted to know what Product I Use to get the results I get. Sorry i dont take A lot of pics of my past grows. and i dont really keep any pics around. im sure most could agree why. Now.

I would not use a 50w cfl because.. look at what i said

" you using 400w hps/Mh 90% of your energy is wasted as it is not energy in the needed nm. for your plant is really only using tops 50w or your Bulb.

now my 90w that link I have tested and Is in the right nm for bith cloriphyl a and b. now my 90w is matching EXACTLY what the plant needs so is using 100% or 90 watts of energy and is why i can put out 1 half pound sog or lst using the 1 90w I linked to.

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well that atrain will not produce no half pound thats for sure.I highly doubt the penetration will get to lower buds from a 90 watt ledd so like i said before and ill say again you are not getting no half pound with a 90 watt led.

Stealthy who showed pics in another led thread uses 2 90 watt leds and a 150 watt cfl and gets only 7 oz so how will your 1 90 watt led beat his 2 and cfl???
I call bullshit.You would have to be a fool to market something and not get paid for it.

whoa whoa whoa so you actually use this?! i have been looking for a good LED for some time.

im just trying to understand.. basically because the spectrum meets the plants growing needs more efficiently you dont require as much wattage?

does this mean plants grow faster under LED? and how is the light penetration because a 5'x5' growing space is exactly what i need right now

i had read that LED's are the best thing you can veg with, and quite frankly thats all i need it for.

if this things really only $100 im about to put down my order right now!

Originally Posted by wyteberrywidow
I was talking about the 2-300 watt leds.do you think it yields more than a 1000 watt hps or 600 hps?
But if you are using a 600 hps already then nevermind.
Oh, haha, yeah it definitely will not yield the same as the HPS.


Thanks for stopping by man

That is from someone who is using 2-300 watt led panels.Way more than your 1-90 watt ufo led.
So again i call bs on your talk about the leds.

Besides.. aren't we all waiting for cheaper sulpher plasma lights anyway? : 0

volcanoOFhistory said:

Besides.. aren't we all waiting for cheaper sulpher plasma lights anyway? : 0

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They are still working on the spectrum and light intensity on induction lights as far as I know. This is from manufacturers in China who make them. So if a sales director is telling me this then even they know it's not there quite yet. But they do look awesome mate and huge too.

http://mland.en.alibaba.com/product/333698136-209414577/400W_induction_grow_light.html?tracelog=cgsotherproduct2#productDetailpageLocation

Again, I wasn't trying to be dickish (is that a word?) or even debate. I want to be on your side and I really want these things to work as stated. I am rooting for the technology and preferrably to be mainstream quickly. That would really help me out. You've stated yourself other models were crappy, so there is a pervasive jaded opinion to overcome...just the way it is and to be expected. This is not unusual with new tech...I think the question a lot of us have is do I take the plunge or wait for mass consensus? Personally, I am looking for something to get me to that tipping point.

So how can we bridge the gap of disbelief? I was hoping you could do that or point me in that direction. I see this on HTGs site..18 months new research. Is there way we can see the difference between this model, a knock off LED and HID? I'm not looking to argue or bash...I would like to be converted, but you have to realize it's not just a monetary investment...it's a huge time investment and and emotional one (err). I just don't want to be dissapointed after a couple of months.

Obviously, a hydro store is going to run into legal problems posting those pics, so it is tasked to the LED users to post as many good journals as possible on this site.

He has no proof just false claims.
He has a current grow and my guess he is using the 90 watt led and still wont post pics of setup or the whole plant just up close bud shots.

wyteberrywidow said:

well that atrain will not produce no half pound thats for sure.I highly doubt the penetration will get to lower buds from a 90 watt ledd so like i said before and ill say again you are not getting no half pound with a 90 watt led.

Stealthy who showed pics in another led thread uses 2 90 watt leds and a 150 watt cfl and gets only 7 oz so how will your 1 90 watt led beat his 2 and cfl???
I call bullshit.You would have to be a fool to market something and not get paid for it.

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ONCE AGAIN. they are not using the correct spectrum LED. PLEASE READ MY FIRST POST BEFORE YOU COMPARE TO OTHER PEOPLES weak led grows.

and yes I do Actually use the one I linked to. Mr wyteberry... dude. I dont care if you think im bullshit. UNTILL you actually use the product I am GO AWAY !!!!!!

tybudz said:

ONCE AGAIN. they are not using the correct spectrum LED. PLEASE READ MY FIRST POST BEFORE YOU COMPARE TO OTHER PEOPLES weak led grows.

and yes I do Actually use the one I linked to. Mr wyteberry... dude. I dont care if you think im bullshit. UNTILL you actually use the product I am GO AWAY !!!!!!

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Show proof of your allegations and i will be more than happy to go away until then stop promoting your led lights like they are the best in the world.
I never saw someone say all the shit you do and do not show proof.Whats so hard about taking a pic of your plan,setup and harvest?
Unless it is not true like i said.

tybudz said:

did you ever stop to think that I DONT GIVE A FUCK to prove to some jackass online what I can do. If you are a hommie you know what I do. you have seen for years my output with HID. and what I have now done with LED.

dude. wyteberry. If you had a brain you would spend more time improving your grow then Online bashing new tech!!!

once again DO THE MATH. your 400w is A BIG WAIST. the plant is only using 10% of that spectrum. so if you do the math you plant is only using 40w lets even say 50w.... my LED that I LINKED to is GIVING the plant exactly what it absorbs. SO is using 90w of energy!!!!!!

what is so hard to fathem???

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That you cannot get a half pound from it and i could get a half pound from the 400. 4 plants 90 grams each.I have proof and its all good do you???
No you do not so the 50 watts of hps my plant is using is way worth it compared to a guy claiming he gets a 1/2 pound from a 90 watt led and no proof.That is so hard to fathem..
You call it a waste i call it productive with results and proof to back it up.

tybudz said:

did you ever stop to think that I DONT GIVE A FUCK to prove to some jackass online what I can do. If you are a hommie you know what I do. you have seen for years my output with HID. and what I have now done with LED.

dude. wyteberry. If you had a brain you would spend more time improving your grow then Online bashing new tech!!!

once again DO THE MATH. your 400w is A BIG WAIST. the plant is only using 10% of that spectrum. so if you do the math you plant is only using 40w lets even say 50w.... my LED that I LINKED to is GIVING the plant exactly what it absorbs. SO is using 90w of energy!!!!!!

what is so hard to fathem???

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Also i have not seen no work from you you just joined this year last month so how did i see your work for years again false claims get you nowhere but a deadend...

wyteberrywidow said:

Also i have not seen no work from you you just joined this year last month so how did i see your work for years again false claims get you nowhere but a deadend...

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If you read what I said I said HOMMIES. your not a HOMMIE. why would I post pictures ALL over the internet. you So dumb dude. GO AWAY !!!!!!

tybudz said:

dude. you are so fucking close minded. I bet when you where a little kid you never got any of the new toys. I bet you had to wait untill the next year. I bet when Nintendo came out you where still playing board games for a couple years. DUDE. if you dont wanna grow using LED thats fine. IM NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE anyone. people asked me what I use. i posted it. LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE YOU PIECE Of SHIT !!!!!

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Sorry when i was a kid my father and mother made the best for me and my siblings.I had every game system out just like i do now.So that is a fail..
Again i am open minded just want some proof.
Again all the name calling makes you look like a little kid and you look more and more like a ass.So who is the real piece of shit.The guy with no proof and false claims or the guy with proof proving a point???As many of the people in this thread stated already where is the proof?
If you dont like what i have to say stop posting your bull shit with no proof to back it up.

tybudz said:

If you read what I said I said HOMMIES. your not a HOMMIE. why would I post pictures ALL over the internet. you So dumb dude. GO AWAY !!!!!!

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Im quite sure you dont know what hommies is?The correct word is homey for one guy.I post pics on the net and what is your point?
Everybody does and my face is not in it so it would be hard to prove it was me.
Keep up with the name calling you will get banned soon.