News, bad news or old news Worry?

I only have a few plants but im told "They are coming hot and heavy" with forfeiture 30 day notices for any one that does not have cancer???

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2012/04/17/2311164/pot-growers-wwarned-feds-local.html

I'm pushing 50 years old and don't want to get shot in the face by cops,

What is going on with this administration?

I registered Republican today, sorry I have to and nothing will change my mind, not voting Paul, voting Mit, I know its gross and nothing is going to change my mind.

I puke every day and have quit buying my pharmaceutical medications and use Kief to help with the issues but if they are
BLANKET taking growers homes with 30 day forfeitures then I would have to quit growing I guess.

I'm told republicans support legal cannabis 75% compared to 56% democrats.
I don't understand, if you have cancer then how the hell are you supposed to grow pot?
Do they demand these rules for hemophiliacs that they make their own medications also?

What kind of country have we become?

We all rushed in to Vote and he hates on us BIG TIME but we never hated him?

This article is by far the best covering what is going on with our safe access to medicine for FREE.
Read the blog at the bottom, impressive..

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2012/may/09/whats_real_reason_obamas_medical#comment-177623

I wouldn't worry. Reading the article, they specifically say they are NOT going for personal grows...just large scale ones on agricultural lands.

Mitt is against medical mj, Obama is just letting things be as they are, federal interference in some dispensaries not withstanding? And I've heard dems are more for medical mj than republicans

Spend an evening googling and reading what Mormons really believe. Obama shit on us, but the racist misogynistic bigoted insanity that is the core of any true Mormon's belief system is not something I want in the White House. Fucking creepy.

We're basically fucked.

Morms are creepy, Im not joining a cult!

I'm voting for Romney because hes got electrolytes.
[video=youtube;e1fKzw05Q5A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1fKzw05Q5A[/video]

Did you even read the article?

"Local law enforcement announced Monday that it will be working with federal agencies to crack down on large-scale medical marijuana grows, primarily on agricultural land."

"The notice is for anyone growing marijuana other than for personal use, Mac-Kenzie said. "If someone has cancer and they're growing three plants, then obviously that's not who this is intended for. This is more for people who are taking advantage of the gray area where the state law falls under right now.""

All that aside... Don't tell ANYONE that you grow. Geez, how hard is that to understand?

Mithrandir420 said:

All that aside... Don't tell ANYONE that you grow. Geez, how hard is that to understand?

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It's pretty difficult to hide fifty 20 foot sativas.

Fungus Gnat said:

It's pretty difficult to hide fifty 20 foot sativas.

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You hide em in a pool with a big blur tarp. heh heh

I'm talking about personal grows.

I've always noticed that liberal democrats and libertarians were the most pro-cannabis, but do your own research and vote for who you want based on all the issues that matter to you. In my opinion, none of the parties are going to push cannabis legalization. It has to come from the people state by state, until the Fed gives in and changes its policy on cannabis. Luckily, this is happening and its happening a lot faster then gay marriage. Go figure.

As far as the crack downs go, I wouldn't worry. Keep your plant count below 6, stay legit with your Dr's rec, and treat your grow like you would a prized rifle: away from kids, neighbors, and would be thieves. This is coming from someone who's had visits by the police and didn't have their plants destroyed or get arrested. They don't care as long as your not selling or allowing your plants to be picked by all the high school kids walking to school.

itsaplant said:

I'm told republicans support legal cannabis 75% compared to 56% democrats.

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Your basing your political views and your votes on things you're told? Why not research things yourself so you can get the correct information to help you make a better decision?

The last pro-cannabis bill that was put in front of the House was presented by a democrat. The democrats went against president and voted in favor but it was voted down by the republicans.

It's no longer a democrat/republican issue. It's above that. The folks who are really in control do not want weed legal. They are making more money with the current laws. We've built an economy around prohibition. The entire drug war is an utter failure, yet it will continue on. Why? Because what's best for the people no longer matters. It's what's best for a few people on top that matters. No amount of common sense will change this.

But they are going after collective farmers, and thats where I get my meds and our collective is not growing from what we can tell.
Were very hands on with all members working a few hours a month.

A collective was supposed to be part of 215 where people collectively banded together.

I thought you said you grew your own meds? That you had just a few plants

I grow my own on a collective. Well I used to. /tumble weeds blowing.

I kept a small amount for juicing.

A true collective, where it's 6-12 people with mj cards living in the same city, deciding to all grow on one member's property, handling only a one to two dozen plants, and keeps membership exclusive, isn't going to bring the police or DEA. It's the dispensaries that try to get as many members as possible, creating a de-facto for-profit store, are the ones getting targeted.

A greenhouse, get one.

Police do not have probably cause to come on your property for plants they can not see.

collective gardener said:

It's no longer a democrat/republican issue. It's above that. The folks who are really in control do not want weed legal. They are making more money with the current laws. We've built an economy around prohibition. The entire drug war is an utter failure, yet it will continue on. Why? Because what's best for the people no longer matters. It's what's best for a few people on top that matters. No amount of common sense will change this.

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Voting democrat/republican is based on a very limited set of choice. 90% of what happens in this country is decided by corporate interests.

I'll be voting democrat because I'd rather the government spend that 0.0001% of the budget on infrastructure spending rather than tax cuts for rich people. But that's really the only choices we get. A small decision on what the government does 0.00001% of the time. It's still an important choice IMO, but it's a very small one. We have very little control over anything.

And anyone who thinks voting for Mitt Romney will some how help MMJ is delusional.

Vindicated said:

A true collective, where it's 6-12 people with mj cards living in the same city, deciding to all grow on one member's property, handling only a one to two dozen plants, and keeps membership exclusive, isn't going to bring the police or DEA. It's the dispensaries that try to get as many members as possible, creating a de-facto for-profit store, are the ones getting targeted.

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The law doesn't make that distinction. There is nothing on the books that says collectives should be 6-12 people. It doesn't matter if there are 100 collectives supplying 1000 people or 10k smaller collectives each supplying 10 people. As long as that is cutting into their vicodan profits they will bust people. As long as police officers make a living doing busts and prison guards make a living watching over the busted, cops will want to bust people.

This isn't a question of evil greedy dispensaries Vs poor innocent MMJ patients. This is a case of MMJ interfering with corporate profits and law enforcement jobs.

Well said, Dan Kone.

Unfortunately, the only way to really make a change is to either be extremely wealthy, or run for and win office yourself. (Sadly the second option is much tougher to achieve than the first)

Mithrandir420 said:

Well said, Dan Kone.

Unfortunately, the only way to really make a change is to either be extremely wealthy, or run for and win office yourself. (Sadly the second option is much tougher to achieve than the first)

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No there is another option, a lobby, a marijuana lobby that lobby's for legislation favorable to its constituents. We do what the big corporations do but that would require putting aside our differences and focusing on a common goal, just like big pharma does.