Next hype strain

PadawanWarrior

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Don't look for hype make it by creating amazing cultivars. Easier said than done right!

For me a good example is me this morning. I have a jar of Apple Fritter and Blueberry. The Fritter was grown well by a good friend. I grew it out last year and let it go due to lacking in a few departments. It is good herb though especially flavor wise.

Made coffee and rolled up a fritter bone. Halfway through I was sick of it to be honest. I also knew if I finished the joint, I would still be just as high as I was after half. Low ceiling for sure on the AF.

Made another cup of coffee and packed a bubbler of the blueberry. The seeds came from another forum member as part of a project. DJ Short Blueberry F4. All sorts of variation in a good way and classic blueberry. After two bubbler hits I am pie eyed and smile plastered. Another rip and here I am rambling. Time to walk the dog and investigate what the day has to offer outdoors. 3 hits of blueberry has me higher than if I smoked a half zip of fritter. You just can't achieve this level of ripped with fritter no matter how much you smoke.

Blueberry buds...
Some phenotypes of the F4, and the last pic is the bud I just smoke a piece of. The flavors range from candy blueberry intense artificial flavor to blueberry the fresh fruit to almost blueberry wine, depending on the pheno.

This bud in the last pic was blueberry #3. When the jar is opened it fills the room with distinct blueberry muffin aroma. Goddamn mouthwatering. As the smoke hits the mouth the intial flavor is similar to the smell, but morphs to an acidic blueberry flavor that coats the mouth. Upon exhale the sweetness ramps up to what one would imagine as sugar coated blueberry candy. It is quite sublime, yet not the best of the batch..more to come.View attachment 5104220View attachment 5104221View attachment 5104222View attachment 5104223View attachment 5104224View attachment 5104225View attachment 5104226
That was chopped a little early.
 

a mongo frog

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Just chopped oreoz, Chiquita banana, and cereal milk a few weeks ago, all cuts previously tested 30%+ consistently. I also ran a table of testers for DVG in there and found a genuine winner that Beats all of the “elites”

of the hype, I kept cereal milk. Kinda reminds me of a fruity gmo cross and had enough amber at 67 days to chop, so not bad. I also want to s1 the cut for archival purposes and chuck some fem crosses while I have it around.
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Oreoz is a beautiful frost monster that makes nice dense buds perfect for Instagram. Smokes extremely smooth, almost too smooth. Kinda tastes like a more bland cookie. aroma is somewhere between gsc and wedding cake, but again, a more muted version. It’s getting a lot of attention because it is beautiful and easy to grow 60 days.
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Chiquita banana (utopia farms cut) was supposed to be gelato 33 but clone guy had a mixup. Decided to roll with it and I’m glad I did, of the 3 clones this one yielded the highest, smoke is extremely potent and has pretty long legs. Tastes like maybe Overripe banana and turpentine.
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DVG tester snowdog x purple vapor. Checks more boxes than I knew I was looking for, one of the most mouth coating lingering OG type I’ve grown from him, has beautiful calyx development, 56 days 10% amber, potency is on par with the others, dry buds have nice bag appeal. Have this one transplanted for reveg, so fingers crossed.
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It’s a tough market to look outside the box as to what to grow if you’re trying to put food on the table, but almost every time I pop a pack of seeds from a breeder that is worth their salt I find things that outperform what the market calls “elite” cuts. It’s the only way to differentiate yourself from everyone else growing the same. I get the market, that’s how these ended up in my garden, but if I want high quality genetics that I like, I have to go looking myself. I’ll always have a small table running new things for this exact reason.
Where did you get your oreoz from? Looks great!!!
 

PJ Diaz

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Hype stuff is hype, is usually just word of mouth or online chatter that gets some buzz going about certain cuts/flower. A lot of gear that you can find pheno hunting a few seed packs will probably be just if good if not better than say an so called elite like gelato #41. That said everything now is so crossed out with strains in seed form that are dropped and everyone is crossing this to that I doubt that even if you found a holy grail pheno of say cannarado's lemon bubblegum(GAK Lemon x bubblegum biscotti) or raw genetics Lemon cherry pie or GMO pie, I doubt these strains would be known as elites because they are far removed from the original so called elite cut the makes up that crosses genetics. I don't know if I'm explaining this correctly.
I feel like what is considered an "Elite Strain" gets updated annually, and it also defends on what definition you are using as "elite". Does that mean it's legendary, or does that mean that it's highly coveted and difficult to acquire, or both? Gelato 33 is an elite cut to many, and used in a lot of modern breeding, but it's really just a reworked version of Girl Scout Cookies.
 

Dividedsky

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I feel like what is considered an "Elite Strain" gets updated annually, and it also defends on what definition you are using as "elite". Does that mean it's legendary, or does that mean that it's highly coveted and difficult to acquire, or both? Gelato 33 is an elite cut to many, and used in a lot of modern breeding, but it's really just a reworked version of Girl Scout Cookies.
I'd guess gelato 33 would be considered a morden "elite" but I would consider the sunset sherbert or the even pink panties cut more of do called "elite" The whole elite thing is redundant. I would hold Chem D and Sour Diesel above all those crossed out cookies and gelatos.
 

Dividedsky

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What are your thoughts on seedy junkies Ice Cream Cake? Still holding value or no? Beautiful plant and flower none the less.
Seed Junky is great.. love there original ice cream cake and kushmints. A lot of people forget a lot of seed junky's gear came from sin city genetics strains which are great and sin city's beans are really affordable strains.
 

PJ Diaz

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I'd guess gelato 33 would be considered a morden "elite" but I would consider the sunset sherbert or the even pink panties cut more of do called "elite" The whole elite thing is redundant. I would hold Chem D and Sour Diesel above all those crossed out cookies and gelatos.
You see my point though right? These modern elites are always getting updated. Wedding Cake is still an elite I think. GMO is the newest elite I believe. So, I think the real question we all want the answer to is, which is the next hype strain to become an elite?
 

Gemtree

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You see my point though right? These modern elites are always getting updated. Wedding Cake is still an elite I think. GMO is the newest elite I believe. So, I think the real question we all want the answer to is, which is the next hype strain to become an elite?
Purple punch might be newer than gmo and seems to be the strain that never dies lol.
 

PJ Diaz

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Purple punch might be newer than gmo and seems to be the strain that never dies lol.
I could be mistaken but I believe that GMO is newer. Purple Punch seems to be a great breeding strain, but a lot of people say that it doesn't have much of a high. Kinda like Blue Dream, all show no go. I haven't grown it myself so can't say first hand.

Speaking of Elites, I had one of the original Girl Scout Cookie cuts back in the day. Don't even know which cut it was, since there weren't a million cuts of it yet. I got it passed from a friend, and it was amazing smoke, but I let it go at some point because it wasn't much of a yielder. Looking back, I should have held that cut longer.
 

Dividedsky

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You see my point though right? These modern elites are always getting updated. Wedding Cake is still an elite I think. GMO is the newest elite I believe. So, I think the real question we all want the answer to is, which is the next hype strain to become an elite?
Ya for sure bro 1000% see your point. I don't really look for so called elites as much these days. I mean I run some that would be considered elites like an original sunset sherbert cut, gelato #41, apple fritter amongst others. It's hard to say what the next elite will be and I stop really caring because the is an ever changing dial dude. I'd say big canna biz and big time breeders kind get hype and buzz on IG around strains these days.

You'd have to follow a bunch of breeders on IG and be keep updated. Last year it was gary payton, cheetah piss, lemon cherry gelato amongst others. I feel and could see the market changing a bit and moving away from sugary candy terp gelatos and more towards straight gassy og's, chems and sours. I said earlier that project 4516 could be big strain but pretty sure it already is with lit farms throwing it in a bunch of crosses and their newer velvet cake and velvet cake crosses they have out.

I'd say look towards some of the big names like compound genetics, doja farms, and even backpack boyz to keep up with the hype elites. Also keep an eye out with newer og and chem crosses coming out, also apples & bananas seemed to be pretty big right now. Good luck in your hunt for the dank!
 

a mongo frog

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Ya for sure bro 1000% see your point. I don't really look for so called elites as much these days. I mean I run some that would be considered elites like an original sunset sherbert cut, gelato #41, apple fritter amongst others. It's hard to say what the next elite will be and I stop really caring because the is an ever changing dial dude. I'd say big canna biz and big time breeders kind get hype and buzz on IG around strains these days.

You'd have to follow a bunch of breeders on IG and be keep updated. Last year it was gary payton, cheetah piss, lemon cherry gelato amongst others. I feel and could see the market changing a bit and moving away from sugary candy terp gelatos and more towards straight gassy og's, chems and sours. I said earlier that project 4516 could be big strain bit pretty sure it already is with lit farms throwing it in a bunch of crosses and the new velvet Cake crosses they out. I'd say look towards some of the big names like compound genetics, doja farms, and even backpack boyz to keep up with the hype elites. Also keep an eye out with newer og and chem crosses coming out, also apples & bananas seemed to be pretty big right now. Good luck in your hunt for the dank!
Apples and banana crosses that are blowing up? Any interest?
 

lusidghost

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Ya for sure bro 1000% see your point. I don't really look for so called elites as much these days. I mean I run some that would be considered elites like an original sunset sherbert cut, gelato #41, apple fritter amongst others. It's hard to say what the next elite will be and I stop really caring because the is an ever changing dial dude. I'd say big canna biz and big time breeders kind get hype and buzz on IG around strains these days.

You'd have to follow a bunch of breeders on IG and be keep updated. Last year it was gary payton, cheetah piss, lemon cherry gelato amongst others. I feel and could see the market changing a bit and moving away from sugary candy terp gelatos and more towards straight gassy og's, chems and sours. I said earlier that project 4516 could be big strain but pretty sure it already is with lit farms throwing it in a bunch of crosses and the new velvet Cake crosses they out. I'd say look towards some of the big names like compound genetics, doja farms, and even backpack boyz to keep up with the hype elites. Also keep an eye out with newer og and chem crosses coming out, also apples & bananas seemed to be pretty big right now. Good luck in your hunt for the dank!
I noticed Cannarado seems to be headed back into the gas. Most of his testers have been complex crosses of chems and OGs lately.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I'd guess gelato 33 would be considered a morden "elite" but I would consider the sunset sherbert or the even pink panties cut more of do called "elite" The whole elite thing is redundant. I would hold Chem D and Sour Diesel above all those crossed out cookies and gelatos.
Hell ya. The Elite strains are cuts if you ask me. I've grown the clone only Sunset Sherbert, and the real Chem 91, plus others. Those I consider Elite. I've got Bordello flowering now. And I've got a Hell's OG and a clone only Pura Vida from Bodhi in a mini tents. I've grown the Pura Vida. but am excited to have the Hell's OG. Just trying to keep it alive so I can Flower it sometime later.

The Hells is a Hells Angels strain.
 

PJ Diaz

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Hell ya. The Elite strains are cuts if you ask me. I've grown the clone only Sunset Sherbert, and the real Chem 91, plus others. Those I consider Elite. I've got Bordello flowering now. And I've got a Hell's OG and a clone only Pura Vida from Bodhi in a mini tents. I've grown the Pura Vida. but am excited to have the Hell's OG. Just trying to keep it alive so I can Flower it sometime later.

The Hells is a Hells Angels strain.
If it's the true Hells Angels OG cut, that's definitely an elite strain. Biker Kush is a reworked version of that cut, and one of the parents of Log Cabin which I mentioned a page or so back.
 

PadawanWarrior

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If it's the true Hells Angels OG cut, that's definitely an elite strain. Biker Kush is a reworked version of that cut, and one of the parents of Log Cabin which I mentioned a page or so back.
Ya, It's the real deal. It didn't look great when I got it, but it's looking a little better now. It's just in a mini 16x16x48 inch tent with 50 watts of HLG V1 5000k. I'm taking a break this summer, but would like to keep this alive if I can, for next fall.

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waterproof808

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If it's the true Hells Angels OG cut, that's definitely an elite strain. Biker Kush is a reworked version of that cut, and one of the parents of Log Cabin which I mentioned a page or so back.
I have heard several reputable old timers say the Valley OG is one of the best tasting OG cuts. It’s not the same as the SFV and one of the more tightly held OG’s.
 

Dividedsky

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I noticed Cannarado seems to be headed back into the gas. Most of his testers have been complex crosses of chems and OGs lately.
I love cannarado. I think I might run the lemon bubble gum(GAK lemon x bubblegum gum biscotti) and the nilla wafer(wedding cake x sundae driver) I have. He has some good fem beans up on the rado site right now, a pack of 6+ fem beans for $80. @tunaaaa_room on ig is a tester for cannarado...check out some of the fire he grows. He also runs some compound genetics as well, he grows some heat.
Apples and banana crosses that are blowing up? Any interest?
Check out some of compound genetics apples & bananas he dropped. I grabbed the older one from the grape gasoline line called gastropop(apples& bananas x grape gas)
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lusidghost

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I love cannarado. I think I might run the lemon bubble gum(GAK lemon x bubblegum gum biscotti) and the nilla wafer(wedding cake x sundae driver) I have. He has some good fem beans up on the rado site right now, a pack of 6+ fem beans for $80. @tunaaaa_room on ig is a tester for cannarado...check out some of the fire he grows. He also runs some compound genetics as well, he grows some heat.

Check put some of compound genetics apples & bananas he dropped. I grabbed the older one from the grape gasoline called gastropop(apples& bananas x grape gas)
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I wish I would have grabbed some Nilla Wafers. That's the number one Cannarado strain that I regret passing on.
 
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