NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

Cletus clem

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It's my first time for autoflowers, have an amnesia haze, a sweet tooth, and a blueberry. NFTG working awesome, had a small mag issue, but HH fixed the problem pretty quick. I use 2 tsp per gal of distilled water, ph to 6.4 with NFTG ph up. Their line is amazing so far, got their trial set, added posidonzime and tritons trawl to that, plus the additional slf100. Started from first leaves with their chart, have had great success so far.
Plants are yesterday starting the 3rd week of growth.View attachment 4080100
Hard to tell but the light looks a bit close? The tritons trawl wont really do much above the herc until flowering. Its great stuff. Demeters destiny will help with mag. I do add some epsom salts occasionally.
 

Slyness41

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Sound advice. Light is 21" off top of plants. My temperature meter at that height to the light shows 81 at the top of the plant
 

Slyness41

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Actually after looking at that picture, that was an early photo that just popped out of the ground and I did have it too close and dropped it down to the 21in
 

Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

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Herculean harvest throughout flushing and transition ? And also been using the bloom chaos but I keep getting potassium Defiency so I switched to using liquid seaweed extract as a foliar but I was wanting to use something to help flush during transition any feedback welcomed
 

Cletus clem

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Herculean harvest throughout flushing and transition ? And also been using the bloom chaos but I keep getting potassium Defiency so I switched to using liquid seaweed extract as a foliar but I was wanting to use something to help flush during transition any feedback welcomed
Bloom khaos can de dangerous if not used properly. And its not a potassium deficiency, its more likely calcium. BK is a calcium facilitator, it makes the plant want calcium. Before sing it, you need to make sure you have a good reserve of calcium and more to come. The foliar recipe is 5ml per litre. You need to be watering in at least 30ml/gal. I usually only use it in flower and am running herculean harvest, demeters destiny, persephones palate, aphrodites extraction and tritons trawl. I do the foliar BK only on feed days and apply after i have fed to be sure there is plenty of calcium there for them. I dont know what you mean by transition. To me, there is flowering, or veg. The first 3 weeks of flower is basically veg nutes with a little kick. BK foliar for the first 2 weeks, water in 15ml/gal after that. Flushing with nftg is not what people typically refer to as flushing. Usually when talking about flushing, youre basically cutting nute for the last 2 weeks or however long so that the plant cannabilizes itself. (Spelling? Meh) with nftg, flushing is done throughout the grow, veg and flower, and is to rid the root zone of any built up salts and bring the ph into the 6s. Bacteria breaking down cellulose results in acid, the acid accumulates, your ph drops. Feed, feed, tea, feed, feed, flush is howthey suggest to run the line but whatever works for you. Oregons constant gardener on youtube has many great videos going in detail about how to run the line. Earlier in this thread i posted a presentation by scott ostrander, owner of the company going over each bottle. Hope this helps.
 

Slyness41

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Keep in mind, its alot more than just canopy temp. That mh puts out some uv, a and b. That can stress a plant out without impacting canopy temp. Just something to think about.
Had not thought about intensity of the UV...maybe I will go cfl next go round when starting out... didn't have any here when I started...also I made an error by using nutes straight out like the feed schedule said, just ph'd H2O for first 2-3 weeks...this is my first time doing this nute line, and autos. Lessons learned, and mistakes avoided next run.
 

Slyness41

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It is a little misleading. You can use their stuff as complimentary additives but there really isnt a veg/bloom so to speak. The base regimine is medusa, gaia, zues and herc. The rest is all a matter of what you are looking for. Imo, the only other crucial bottles are athenas and demeters. Athenas is amino acids which promote calcium uptake and demeters is going to be your magnesium. It has no mag in it but its unbonded calcium, the calcium will bond with coco or peat in your medium, get eaten by bacteria releasing the magnesium in them. If you understand what each bottle does you can substitute with other things. As a whole, its alot at first but you will see that most of the stuff goes a long way. Except for herc. You will use a shit ton of herc. Luckily, it is the cheapest of the line. Also, the PH up is amazing. Just my opinion.
Yea the prices here in Oregon ( clearly) are awesome, its 9 bucks for the quart of herc. And it goes a LONG ways with the recommended doses as far as I have seen so far, new to their stuff, but seems to be good. And Cletus knows hiz shit, so he's a great resource for assistance. My mag def. has been getting better after a herc flush and then demeters in h2o only...plants are probably stunted though as I started my seedlings off with nutez instead of just phd water....
 

Cletus clem

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Yea the prices here in Oregon ( clearly) are awesome, its 9 bucks for the quart of herc. And it goes a LONG ways with the recommended doses as far as I have seen so far, new to their stuff, but seems to be good. And Cletus knows hiz shit, so he's a great resource for assistance. My mag def. has been getting better after a herc flush and then demeters in h2o only...plants are probably stunted though as I started my seedlings off with nutez instead of just phd water....
Using nutes or not with seedlings actually really depends on your media. If using straight coco, coco/perlite or promix nutes are needed pretty quickly. Nftg is generally pretty forgiving so if using a pretty neutral growing media feed away. Mag def can be common around weeks 4-6, even more so with nftg if they havnt been herc flushed yet. The demeters will take time to work so keep up on it. Dont be afraid to hittem with a little epsom salts. Are you using any microbe products or aact?
 

Slyness41

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Using nutes or not with seedlings actually really depends on your media. If using straight coco, coco/perlite or promix nutes are needed pretty quickly. Nftg is generally pretty forgiving so if using a pretty neutral growing media feed away. Mag def can be common around weeks 4-6, even more so with nftg if they havnt been herc flushed yet. The demeters will take time to work so keep up on it. Dont be afraid to hittem with a little epsom salts. Are you using any microbe products or aact?
I am using nectars #4 mix.
 

Slyness41

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Using nutes or not with seedlings actually really depends on your media. If using straight coco, coco/perlite or promix nutes are needed pretty quickly. Nftg is generally pretty forgiving so if using a pretty neutral growing media feed away. Mag def can be common around weeks 4-6, even more so with nftg if they havnt been herc flushed yet. The demeters will take time to work so keep up on it. Dont be afraid to hittem with a little epsom salts. Are you using any microbe products or aact?
No microbes, I CAN however get free Gal. Every Friday of tea from my grow shop, should I use that??
 

Slyness41

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No microbes, I CAN however get free Gal. Every Friday of tea from my grow shop, should I use that??
I will also continue the demeters then, and go back to nutes when next watering is due, been 4 days since last nute feed, so they will I'm sure be wanting more...probably tomorrow or next day. Here's my biggest one, its my blueberry.
They are 2.5 weeks old at this point...look proper a or too small????
 

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Cletus clem

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No microbes, I CAN however get free Gal. Every Friday of tea from my grow shop, should I use that??
I would most def use that. Saves you the effort of brewing it.
I will also continue the demeters then, and go back to nutes when next watering is due, been 4 days since last nute feed, so they will I'm sure be wanting more...probably tomorrow or next day. Here's my biggest one, its my blueberry.
They are 2.5 weeks old at this point...look proper a or too small????
They look great!
 

Slyness41

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I would most def use that. Saves you the effort of brewing it.

They look great!
Glad you didnt say uh oh....lol yea, I will get some free tea too!!
I figured they were about right, the sweet tooth is super small, thinking it might be a dwarf strain...was a free seed..
 

Slyness41

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Hey Clem, question:
When following the NFTG schedule, they have me mix into a gallon of water. How long does each gallon go for? I cannot use up a gallon in a week, plus add my tea and a water in between without badly overwatering....is the nectar schedule being thought as a two weeks per early veg, mid veg, etc and not figured as one week?? I want to follow their schedule, but it isnt clear how long each segment for mixing is for.
 
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