NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

bubba73

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I don't use byte is much because it's such a low concentration. I use 1-2.5 ml per gallon of ThermX70 with Damn near ever watering. Feed water saturated the soil so evenly and bacteria & fungi love it!! It allows my soil to dry more evenly as well. Why don't you like it bubba?
holds moisture longer then I like.... thats the only reason ....lol.....
 

IrieRoots

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I had to deal with that learning curve too, I had to lower the volume of feed water to adjust. So I use way less, a 3 gallon gets 1.25 quartz a day and only water to runoff if SLURRIES climb. I try to keep the soil evenly saturated through out grow. Soil microbes don't like the dry cycles like in hydro. The only time I let pots dry out more is when I want the roots to colonize new media.
 

bubba73

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went ahead and ordered crustacean meal to build more calcium. even 3 weeks away , got the BK claw ...lol
 

IrieRoots

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I use radicle bags so my soil breathes extremely fast, and with daily watering, it pulls fresh air in. Sometime I keep 5 gallons of water bubbling 24/7 and I use it as my starting water to add nectar too....putting more dissolved oxygen in the root zone.
 

bubba73

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I had to deal with that learning curve too, I had to lower the volume of feed water to adjust. So I use way less, a 3 gallon gets 1.25 quartz a day and only water to runoff if SLURRIES climb. I try to keep the soil evenly saturated through out grow. Soil microbes don't like the dry cycles like in hydro. The only time I let pots dry out more is when I want the roots to colonize new media.
thats where I was screwing my self...lol.. always a learning curve !!!
 

IrieRoots

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Your gonna love that snake!! Just makes things so much easier to keep clean and insures proper oxygen levels.
 

IrieRoots

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went ahead and ordered crustacean meal to build more calcium. even 3 weeks away , got the BK claw ...lol
I'm curious what your slurry reads on the CLAW......Thats not the worst thing that can happen, when the leaf surfaces get damaged by the lack of calcium then it's cause for concern. The claw is the mild need for!!
 

bubba73

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2-4-19
1.slurry ppm 260 / ph 6.8
2. slurry ppm 350 / ph 6.7
3. slurry ppm 350 / ph 6.7 <- this has the issue , hell all are starting too ...
4. slurry ppm 360 / ph 6.7

all feed at ppm 1410 / ph 6.6 today .

like I said there so close to finish im not sweating it .... some are starting to yellow and looks like I have tip burn ...lol... in organics ? thats pushing ....
 

IrieRoots

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here 2 pics awhile... what im talking about ... looks like a (N) def...
I don't see any claws? That yellow from the margins and interveinal yellowing with necrotic edges looks like mag and potassium possibly. Nitrogen more lower on the plant and the whole leaf will pale yellow before it gets necrotic. She eating everything you throw at her!! Try lowering your feed ph to 6.4, let your plant have more to choose from. Some genes like more MAG in weeks 5-7!! I'm of the belief of these more isolated foliage problems coming from something off balance obviously, so that Damn nutrient antagonism occurs and the plant grabs what it needs from its reserves(mature leaves).
 

bubba73

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I don't see any claws? That yellow from the margins and interveinal yellowing with necrotic edges looks like mag and potassium possibly. Nitrogen more lower on the plant and the whole leaf will pale yellow before it gets necrotic. She eating everything you throw at her!! Try lowering your feed ph to 6.4, let your plant have more to choose from. Some genes like more MAG in weeks 5-7!! I'm of the belief of these more isolated foliage problems coming from something off balance obviously, so that Damn nutrient antagonism occurs and the plant grabs what it needs from its reserves(mature leaves).
thats what I edit my post to mag issue too.... gonna top dress some epson salt ... the leaf in the back has the claw...and slowly dropping my ph down to that 6.4 don't wanna force it quick ...
 
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IrieRoots

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The more I study it, I'm gonna say definitely MAG def......Your potassium prolly fine. I would go light on the epsom and add another 5 ml. Of Demeters to your feed, possibly 10 ml more. Your stacked up so she is about ready to swell all those calyxes up. Correct it with the epsom and then let Demeter take her home. Win win too, more calcium for BK.

I've been wondering why the reammend recipe/recommendations don't include fresh coco to replenish the mix when its the lines main source of magnesium delivery......and potassium.
 

bubba73

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The more I study it, I'm gonna say definitely MAG def......Your potassium prolly fine. I would go light on the epsom and add another 5 ml. Of Demeters to your feed, possibly 10 ml more. Your stacked up so she is about ready to swell all those calyxes up. Correct it with the epsom and then let Demeter take her home. Win win too, more calcium for BK.

I've been wondering why the reammend recipe/recommendations don't include fresh coco to replenish the mix when its the lines main source of magnesium delivery......and potassium.
Im already at 20ml with Demeters... she also has purple / reddish stems ...she loves the mag I guess ...never gave the coco coir a thought ... makes me think of adding coconut water in ?
 

IrieRoots

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Im already at 20ml with Demeters... she also has purple / reddish stems ...she loves the mag I guess ...never gave the coco coir a thought ... makes me think of adding coconut water in ?
Don't think about coconut water......definitely get some of that in there!! So good for flower even when not trying to correct something..lol
 

IrieRoots

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I've played around with vegamatrix cal mag boost---the calcium is limestone and the mag is K-mag plus plant aminos, it's like 1-0-1. Pretty safe to run with nectar.

My new option that I think might be even better is ROOTS ORGANIC has a new no nitrogen cal mag that is gypsum(calcium & sulfur) with kieserite(magnesium) it's 0-0-0... A flowering cal mag.
 

IrieRoots

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well im gonna TD a little epsom salt... the feed chart calls for 5ml of Demeters and im at 20ml...lol... yup she hungry !!!
5 is the average and you use RO.....the calcium not gonna burn.....something to think about, and write down if you run That gene again.
 

IrieRoots

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My early & mid flower schedule is 5-10 ml on Demeters and ph 6.4 - 6.8. And like Scott always says you don't want to peg every feed at the same ph, you want ride that drift baby!!
 
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