No hydro experience, help me out?

OSHiT

Well-Known Member
So, for my next grow i wanna do something hydro... alittle more automated. i know the basic setups and ive looked around abit, but i have no experience with any hydro setup so i wanna know what you guys think of yours/others hydro setup that you have worked with personally.

Odds are im going to end up making this myself, so if you have any usefull tips/places to get materials that would be very helpfull.

The hydro system im constructing will be used in my next grow, im gonna keep it small just to grow enough for my personal stash.

The systems i am considering are :

EbbnFlow system -Which will prolly be made of pvc /a res / 1-2 pumps and some sort of valve.(plants theselfs housed in the pvc with net pots drained/filled into/from res)
Aeroponic system 1 -Again will be housed in pvc with a res and a drain into res, pump will take water from the res and pump it into tubes which will lead to the top of the pvc into 360 degree sprayers.
Aeroponic system 2 -Housed in a 10-20 gallon res with a lid simply holes in the lid to allow pots then the bottom of the res will be filled with a few inches of water, and a mister/fogger will be placed at the bottom.
Dwc system -Large res/tote filled with water a few airstones, mabe a mix of pumps /w tubes running to bottom of pots and a bubbler.
Drip system -again the plants will be housed in pvc there will be a res at one end or both that will catch runoff water. A pump will be plased in the res to pump water back up through tubes onto the roots.
EbbnGrow system -I would have several bucket/containers with tubes/valves leading all to a control container/res. 2 pumps to pump water between control and res.

Please feel free to recommend anything else but other then that i just would like opinions on which you think will be best for a small scale grow that wont be to complicated/hard to construct. Please leave more then 1 word answers.

Lower profile is better.
Reliable is better.
Lower matinence is better.

I can link you to diffrent examples of each idea if you need a better picture.
 

sparkafire

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Hey there Being a newb also to hydro I am using EBB & FLOW. Since this is for your use and to keep cost down i used containers from Target an air stone from a pet store an air pump and water pump 265 GPM and some fittings from a Hydro store. You are looking at about 60 bucks. I am using the flora series keep it simple with nutes your first time around. You should be golden. Of course these are my preferences and opinions you will have to decide what works best for you. Read + Research = Reward

Here is my grow room so you can see the tub set up.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/90163-al-b-fuct-tribute-grow.html

Sparky
 

OSHiT

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ok i looked through alittle of both... as for the eb n flow u showed keep n mind it has to be able to be used on a small scale with as minimal height as possible.

as for the hempy buckets... i dont understand fully how it works... to me it just looks like the same grow style as soil.. u still need single buckets for each plant and they still grow a full root structure... just instead of soil you use perlite so u have to water more often and at the bottom there's an inch or 2 of water that the bottom of the roots sit in? not sure if u still have to water after that but would it pose the same problem as dwc with high temps root rot low d/o ect.? and how big would the buckets need to be bucket/plant height ratio. and would the bottom of the roots absorb all the water the plant needx.
 

Florida Girl

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Hempy is the easiest way ever to grow indoors. I'm doing Hempy scrog. Only got one girl out of the lot, I took clones of her though. I've had no problem with any root rot.

Here she is..... this was taken on the 8th.








She was grown in a 3 gallon trash can hempy method. I got 5 gallon buckets for the next round. ;)
 

OSHiT

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thanks for the reply's florida but like i said small scale, do you know ratios ...
ex. 3 gal bucket/ 3 ft plant or could i use say a 1-2 gal bucket for a 2-3 ft plant?

as far as root rot goes. its a problem with dwc/roots in water
if u mix dwc with high temps it create's a low dissolved oxygen level in the water and that leads to root rot.... assuming im not getting it backwards some how... untill about a few days ago i knew nothing about hydro
 

GoDFTW

New Member
i will be finishing this post from this name( due to an admin being mad cuz i yelled at her) C----- Zzzz
 

NoDrama

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I would go DWC, but go into flowering as soon as it hits 4 inches height, should finish around a foot tall with 1/2 oz per site. The more you veg the bigger it will get and the more the yield will be, up to a point.
 

flipsidesw

New Member
High temps isnt just a dwc problem... If u have high temps go hempy.....

Hempy buckets are the shyznat super easy to maintain. Great results man.. I If think

you would get better results with hempy buckets with heat issues than any hydro

method.. If heat isnt an issue do dwc..
 

GoDFTW

New Member
heat is an issue( due to small space and Hps ) but im not sure about this hempy bucket method... especially on a smaller scale
 

GoDFTW

New Member
temps usually between 80-90 ( lights on ) 70 ( lights off ) the grow is gonna be done in a grow text ( XS ) so i have alittle room for diffrent methods but not enough for the full systems anything i use will be small scale or Dwc( which im trying to stay away from )
 

GoDFTW

New Member
ok well ive looked over everything once more... and i was thinking this....

Container
with
Mister
with
pots

simple setup container with a holes in the top for the net pots i would use clay pellets and start the plants in rockwool cubes ..i may use 2 misters and if they cant substain bigger plants i may have to get a water pump and some pvc tubes / 360 sprayers for that type of aeroponic setup...

do you think the misters would be able to grow a plant sog style start to finish?
 

GoDFTW

New Member
na i think thats about as low as my heats gonna get. it stabalizes after the lights on a few hours at around 88 degree's. as for the reading... i think ive done a good amount i just would like opinions of what people think is best for me from personal experience.. i know how these setups work. i could prolly build a few of them pretty easily.
 

GoDFTW

New Member
heat is only a problem in DWC type setups were the roots are submerged
( thats why im trying to stay away from dwc )
 

GoDFTW

New Member
ok, well ive done alittle more research and thanks to loudblunts i know that the mister shown above will not work due to the larger root mass of adult plants. so im going to have to go with a more traditional style aeroponic setup.... im not exactly sure about how the pump/sprayer system is suposed to work/fit together so i may be running around the forum looking for people with experience building these.

but basicly here's the plan.... im going to take 3 6'' pvc pipes cut holes for a net pot/sprayers put them on an angle slanting into a resevoire so the excess water flows back im going to tag a water pump( not sure what gph yet) but prolly a smaller one that i could find at walmart/homedepot
then i'd need to study some diffrent pvc fittings and somehow hook the pump up air tight to some pvc pipeing. up a 90 degree elbow into a T Joint were i would split the pipe into 2 diffrent lines that would go up the midpoints between the pvc were i would end the pvc into a cross joint like THIS ONE were i would run some plastic tubing into the 6'' pvc tubes into 12 low pressure 360 degree sprayers. ill prolly end up going to homedepot some time in the next few days to check out diffrent types of pvc/fittings as well as look for a water pump/res

in the mean time ill throw up a fast illustration , and ask u guys if you have any tips that would help me out for :
Res size
pump size(gph)
and would i need a pressure guage or is that only needed in bigger setups?
i may be underestimating how easy this will be to construct so anyone with first hand or second hand knowledge please feel free to tell me what u think

illustration in this thread
 
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